Royce Gracie returns
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just saw that also.man, royce made a believer out of me, but matt's a badass, wonderin if royce can pull some jujitsu magic and submit him.
gonna see liddel/couture 3 in vegas, then goin to a party at planet hollywood for superbowl. should be awesome
gonna see liddel/couture 3 in vegas, then goin to a party at planet hollywood for superbowl. should be awesome
gracie has fought in pride, he fought this one guy "sakuraba" i think is his name. there match lasted 1 1/2 hours.
this year is lookin good for ufc matches. they are getting better & better. hopin gracie can make it a match. the last time i saw him fight was when he fought kimo. gracie won but kimo hurt him and havent seen him fight in us since.
this year is lookin good for ufc matches. they are getting better & better. hopin gracie can make it a match. the last time i saw him fight was when he fought kimo. gracie won but kimo hurt him and havent seen him fight in us since.
i hate to rain on the parade,but royce looked like he had trouble getting up and down the 3 steps to the ring....
i smell trouble for "the great one"....
i`ll be waiting to see these odds....
should be interesting...
i smell trouble for "the great one"....
i`ll be waiting to see these odds....
should be interesting...
gw,
matt jumped at the chance to fight him because he said he was way past his prime, I think he knows something...
matt jumped at the chance to fight him because he said he was way past his prime, I think he knows something...
he may be past his prime, but he is such a master technician that I think he may be able to make it very close...
He has sinewy strength, great endurance, and the dude just doesn't give up. I like Hughes, but this will be interesting.
The one fighter I have really come to enjoy is St. Pierre from Canada. He will be a champ soon and for a long time. He is a freak in terms of athletic ability.
Lidell - Couture 3 I hope is a good match, but Lidell can really slow down a match if he gets frustrated. I like watching the fights, when there is a little more "anger" between them, like Tito and Shamrock, or heck for that matter Tito and anyone!
Orlovsky - Syliva will not be that excting as I get bored with Sylvia, but Orlovsky and Frank Mir would be a great match.
TSI
He has sinewy strength, great endurance, and the dude just doesn't give up. I like Hughes, but this will be interesting.
The one fighter I have really come to enjoy is St. Pierre from Canada. He will be a champ soon and for a long time. He is a freak in terms of athletic ability.
Lidell - Couture 3 I hope is a good match, but Lidell can really slow down a match if he gets frustrated. I like watching the fights, when there is a little more "anger" between them, like Tito and Shamrock, or heck for that matter Tito and anyone!
Orlovsky - Syliva will not be that excting as I get bored with Sylvia, but Orlovsky and Frank Mir would be a great match.
TSI
Hughes pounds that soft piece of old man ass Gracie into the matt in less that 2 minutes of the 1st round.
Only reason hughes took this fight is because he is getting close to hanging it up and the $$ dangled in front of him for it was too good to pass up.
Liddell-Couture 3 promises to be a quick snooze-fest as well. I'm the biggest Randy Couture fan there is, but that old man got destroyed by the Ice man last time and it might be quicker this time around.
I don't care what the odds are on Orlovski, he will take out Sylvia even faster this time than he did the last time they fought. I'm guessing the line will be something like Orlovski -190 and I'll be all over it like Orlovski will be on Sylvia...
Only reason hughes took this fight is because he is getting close to hanging it up and the $$ dangled in front of him for it was too good to pass up.
Liddell-Couture 3 promises to be a quick snooze-fest as well. I'm the biggest Randy Couture fan there is, but that old man got destroyed by the Ice man last time and it might be quicker this time around.
I don't care what the odds are on Orlovski, he will take out Sylvia even faster this time than he did the last time they fought. I'm guessing the line will be something like Orlovski -190 and I'll be all over it like Orlovski will be on Sylvia...
from this mornings local fishwrap....
"Teddy Duchamp ponders the dream matchup of Superman vs. Mighty Mouse in ?Stand By Me.?
National Basketball Association historians and stat hogs salivate over the impossible Wilt Chamberlain-Shaquille O?Neal clash in the paint. And, there?s an endlessly energetic discourse regarding the merits of Jack Nicklaus and Tiger Woods in their primes.
Answers to the questions of who would win these era-hopping battles aren?t attainable, just argued and speculated.
As improbability goes, the ?monumental? fight that Ultimate Fighting Championship president Dana White announced Monday night from the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas during the broadcast of the live Ultimate Fight Night 3 event on Spike TV, always has been probable.
Miletich Fighting Systems? Matt Hughes, the UFC?s finest welterweight champion of all-time, is only 7 years younger than 39-year-old Royce Gracie, a mixed martial arts revolutionary, who infused Brazilian jiujitsu into the sport during the formative years of the UFC. Message boards have guessed at the outcome of a meeting between Hughes and Gracie, and, in May, they?ll finally have an answer, albeit one that still will be subjective.
Hughes is in the prime of his career, and Gracie hardly can qualify as being an active fighter ? stepping into a cage just once a year in each of the past three years and fighting only five times since 1995. His record of two wins, two draws and one loss suggests a fighter who has seen better days. It?s a feeling that Hughes verbalized to a national television audience Monday and echoed from Las Vegas? McCarron International Airport on Tuesday.
?He?s definitely not too old, but I think he?s definitely behind the times,? Hughes said. ?He?s not well-rounded. When he was fighting, you could be a good grappler and win. You could be a good striker and win. Now everybody does everything. I have many ways to win. I?m not worried. I think he?s stubborn. All of the Gracie fighters are stubborn. They?re hard-headed. They?ve always said that their way?s the best way. It?s another reason I wanted to take this fight ? to show that the Gracie way isn?t the best way.
?The Gracie fighters are all really pro-Gracie. We?re (the Miletich camp) not saying we?re the best, but we like to bring it all together. I go to other gyms to learn things. A Gracie would never go to another gym to learn.?
Hughes didn?t have to be convinced to take this fight ? his first since submitting Joe Riggs with a kimura arm bar at UFC 56 in November.
?I loved this fight as soon as I heard about it. Dana White called me four days ago and said, ?I?ve got you a fight with Royce Gracie,? and all I asked was, ?When?? It was the only question I had,? he said. ?I love the matchup, and I love that he?s a legend in the sport. I?ve never fought a legend before. I?m really excited about this fight. It?s a no-lose situation for me.?
Gracie, at the announcement Monday night, declared, ?This is my house. I built it.? The hall of famer, however, will be returning to his ?house? to find the fighter, considered by a long list as the sport?s greatest in any class, waiting for him.
?I?m going to try very hard for this fight,? Hughes said. ?A lot of people are telling me that I?m going to have my way with him and I see it that way too.?
Is Hughes being a bit cocky in his comments in the last line?
You don't get to the top of a physical and demanding sport like ultimate fighting without a little bit of arrogance, IMO....
"Teddy Duchamp ponders the dream matchup of Superman vs. Mighty Mouse in ?Stand By Me.?
National Basketball Association historians and stat hogs salivate over the impossible Wilt Chamberlain-Shaquille O?Neal clash in the paint. And, there?s an endlessly energetic discourse regarding the merits of Jack Nicklaus and Tiger Woods in their primes.
Answers to the questions of who would win these era-hopping battles aren?t attainable, just argued and speculated.
As improbability goes, the ?monumental? fight that Ultimate Fighting Championship president Dana White announced Monday night from the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas during the broadcast of the live Ultimate Fight Night 3 event on Spike TV, always has been probable.
Miletich Fighting Systems? Matt Hughes, the UFC?s finest welterweight champion of all-time, is only 7 years younger than 39-year-old Royce Gracie, a mixed martial arts revolutionary, who infused Brazilian jiujitsu into the sport during the formative years of the UFC. Message boards have guessed at the outcome of a meeting between Hughes and Gracie, and, in May, they?ll finally have an answer, albeit one that still will be subjective.
Hughes is in the prime of his career, and Gracie hardly can qualify as being an active fighter ? stepping into a cage just once a year in each of the past three years and fighting only five times since 1995. His record of two wins, two draws and one loss suggests a fighter who has seen better days. It?s a feeling that Hughes verbalized to a national television audience Monday and echoed from Las Vegas? McCarron International Airport on Tuesday.
?He?s definitely not too old, but I think he?s definitely behind the times,? Hughes said. ?He?s not well-rounded. When he was fighting, you could be a good grappler and win. You could be a good striker and win. Now everybody does everything. I have many ways to win. I?m not worried. I think he?s stubborn. All of the Gracie fighters are stubborn. They?re hard-headed. They?ve always said that their way?s the best way. It?s another reason I wanted to take this fight ? to show that the Gracie way isn?t the best way.
?The Gracie fighters are all really pro-Gracie. We?re (the Miletich camp) not saying we?re the best, but we like to bring it all together. I go to other gyms to learn things. A Gracie would never go to another gym to learn.?
Hughes didn?t have to be convinced to take this fight ? his first since submitting Joe Riggs with a kimura arm bar at UFC 56 in November.
?I loved this fight as soon as I heard about it. Dana White called me four days ago and said, ?I?ve got you a fight with Royce Gracie,? and all I asked was, ?When?? It was the only question I had,? he said. ?I love the matchup, and I love that he?s a legend in the sport. I?ve never fought a legend before. I?m really excited about this fight. It?s a no-lose situation for me.?
Gracie, at the announcement Monday night, declared, ?This is my house. I built it.? The hall of famer, however, will be returning to his ?house? to find the fighter, considered by a long list as the sport?s greatest in any class, waiting for him.
?I?m going to try very hard for this fight,? Hughes said. ?A lot of people are telling me that I?m going to have my way with him and I see it that way too.?
Is Hughes being a bit cocky in his comments in the last line?
You don't get to the top of a physical and demanding sport like ultimate fighting without a little bit of arrogance, IMO....
wish they would do some cross promotion between ufc and pride, would like to see liddle/wanderlai, even though i think the axe murderer would knock him out!!!
