Rummy is doing good job. The Pres!
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No one has to inform you of anything. Our President has given the Secretary a full vote of confidence and for most Americans that is enough, but for the ill informed and bush haters and the democratic congress is doesn't matter, because nothing President Bush could do would satisfy any of you.
djv said:
No one has to inform you of anything. Our President has given the Secretary a full vote of confidence and for most Americans that is enough, but for the ill informed and bush haters and the democratic congress is doesn't matter, because nothing President Bush could do would satisfy any of you.
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WTF : Wis football coach Alvarez has two players charged with felonies, is he liable for their actions: Get back into reality, you nitwits are just a load of hindsighters and backseat drivers:
There are 130,000 soldiers in Iraq, you think they all are going to act perfectly, AGAIN get back to REALITY!
The people who are responsible for the abuse are being interrogated, arrested and will be prosecuted, THAT is how it works..
The Abuse was HUMILIATING but nowhere near an act of pure EVIL as the mutilation and hanging of four Americans.
If you all feel SO BAD for the Abused of Iraq head on over and grab an AK and start fighting with Sadr and his Boys:: CMON you are all so goddamn righteous and perfect, put your ass where it will help your cohorts:
djv said:
WTF : Wis football coach Alvarez has two players charged with felonies, is he liable for their actions: Get back into reality, you nitwits are just a load of hindsighters and backseat drivers:
There are 130,000 soldiers in Iraq, you think they all are going to act perfectly, AGAIN get back to REALITY!
The people who are responsible for the abuse are being interrogated, arrested and will be prosecuted, THAT is how it works..
The Abuse was HUMILIATING but nowhere near an act of pure EVIL as the mutilation and hanging of four Americans.
If you all feel SO BAD for the Abused of Iraq head on over and grab an AK and start fighting with Sadr and his Boys:: CMON you are all so goddamn righteous and perfect, put your ass where it will help your cohorts:
Even though the Red Cross(commie Bush haters) reported that the abuse over there is systemic, it's still absurd to directly blame Rumsfeld personally for these 'events'.
However, do ya fellas think that maybe he should have told Congress and the President about these findings that he's known about for months? At the very, very least, might it have been the right thing to do to let somebody-the President maybe- know that the pictures were about to be released?
Did they just hope it was going to go away?
Really strange how people could ever distrust this admin.
However, do ya fellas think that maybe he should have told Congress and the President about these findings that he's known about for months? At the very, very least, might it have been the right thing to do to let somebody-the President maybe- know that the pictures were about to be released?
Did they just hope it was going to go away?
Really strange how people could ever distrust this admin.
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What I feel SO BAD about is that the actions of these soldiers and the subsequent (attempted) cover-up by Rumsfeld almost certainly will cause more of our troops to die and for our image around the world to sink even lower while stirring up even more hatred and more will to kill our civilians in terrorist attacks.
I know, I know. WHO CARES WHAT THE REST OF THE PATHETIC WORLD THINKS OF US, ESPECIALLY A BUNCH OF SAND NIGGERS?
Just keep saying that after the next 9/11. Please don't act surprised that it happened or outraged or express bewilderment as to why everybody hates us.
No, 9/11 does not equal some prisoners being humiliated, but doing totally unecessary things to stir up even more hatred and mistrust and then acting like it's no big deal is idiotic.
See, it's easy for us to sit here and say, 'what's the big deal that it was a female that was leading hooded, naked male prisoners around by dog collars. That guy deserved it.' What the more obtuse fail to realize is that millions and millions of other people in that region and in other parts of the world, who didn't 'deserve' it see us in an even more unfavorable light.
I know. Who cares what they think about us invading their country/region and making a mockery of their customs, traditions, religion? They all deserve it.
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PRO190 said:
What I feel SO BAD about is that the actions of these soldiers and the subsequent (attempted) cover-up by Rumsfeld almost certainly will cause more of our troops to die and for our image around the world to sink even lower while stirring up even more hatred and more will to kill our civilians in terrorist attacks.
I know, I know. WHO CARES WHAT THE REST OF THE PATHETIC WORLD THINKS OF US, ESPECIALLY A BUNCH OF SAND NIGGERS?
Just keep saying that after the next 9/11. Please don't act surprised that it happened or outraged or express bewilderment as to why everybody hates us.
No, 9/11 does not equal some prisoners being humiliated, but doing totally unecessary things to stir up even more hatred and mistrust and then acting like it's no big deal is idiotic.
See, it's easy for us to sit here and say, 'what's the big deal that it was a female that was leading hooded, naked male prisoners around by dog collars. That guy deserved it.' What the more obtuse fail to realize is that millions and millions of other people in that region and in other parts of the world, who didn't 'deserve' it see us in an even more unfavorable light.
I know. Who cares what they think about us invading their country/region and making a mockery of their customs, traditions, religion? They all deserve it.
why would anyone NOT try to cover this up?
you woudl have to be an idiot NOT to......they should have taken care of this all under the table and done their best to not let it get out......and the reporter who took the pictures did the country a great disservice
you woudl have to be an idiot NOT to......they should have taken care of this all under the table and done their best to not let it get out......and the reporter who took the pictures did the country a great disservice
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1) How naive to think some HUMILIATION of CRIMINALS is what is going to cause future 911s, those Animals will attempt 911s regardless, our way of life and support of Israel is the overriding factor for their insane acts of terrorism>>
2) What they think of us is a reason to MURDER 3000 civilians! HUMILIATION is cause for terrorism and MURDER! Yes Kosar, the next time someone Humiliates or embarrasses me I'm going to KILL THEM!
3)Nobody acting like it is no big deal, people will be on trial for this.
4)Unfavorable light, what do you suggest we do, give up our way of life so the WORLD will LIKE US , if these millions hate us b/c of some humiliation and abuse by a few soldiers then they are the shallow scumbags , not us!
5) Since we INVADED their country I believe it is your Duty Kosar to go over and PROTECT the Iraqis' you so believe are in such GRAVE DANGER from a HOSTILE INVASION!
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kosar said:
1) How naive to think some HUMILIATION of CRIMINALS is what is going to cause future 911s, those Animals will attempt 911s regardless, our way of life and support of Israel is the overriding factor for their insane acts of terrorism>>
2) What they think of us is a reason to MURDER 3000 civilians! HUMILIATION is cause for terrorism and MURDER! Yes Kosar, the next time someone Humiliates or embarrasses me I'm going to KILL THEM!
3)Nobody acting like it is no big deal, people will be on trial for this.
4)Unfavorable light, what do you suggest we do, give up our way of life so the WORLD will LIKE US , if these millions hate us b/c of some humiliation and abuse by a few soldiers then they are the shallow scumbags , not us!
5) Since we INVADED their country I believe it is your Duty Kosar to go over and PROTECT the Iraqis' you so believe are in such GRAVE DANGER from a HOSTILE INVASION!
dr. freeze said:
LOL! This post takes the fuking cake. Unbelievable.
Naturally, followed by another one of PRO190's 'gems'. You guys are the best.
Hoops said:
ANOTHER Enlightening post by Hoops, hell Freelancc offers more in his post than you ever have, debate my post if you have a spine:
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PRO190 said:
dr. freeze said:
lol- Jesus Christ
Aside from the normal 'Dr. Freezeness' of this post, most of the pictures were taken by soldiers.
It was Rumsfeld that did this country a 'great disservice'.
I guess Nixon would be an idiot not to try to cover-up watergate.
Reagan would be an idiot not to try to cover-up the Iran-Contra debacle.
Clinton would be an idiot not to try to cover-up a blow-job.
'should have taken care of it under the table'???? LMFAOOOO.........just like LBJ and Nixon did in regards to Vietnam casualties....man you're a piece of work.
Well everyone from the right went to the photo and prisoner problem. Im still trying to understand ANYTHING he's done right. Dam was told how many times 50 you need more men on the ground. No he said. We need more int'l help to cover some of our soldiers asses back door. Really. He just has them crying to join us. Instead there leaveing. Just one mess pops up new every week or month. Someone has to be incharge. You rather they blame it all on god. They have idiots like this in place to take the fall so god does not have to. Bush should have went over and behind closeded doors said. Help me out here go on a long vacation. Then retire. Only reason he's keeping him it's a election year. Anyone that had info like this and kept it from the Pres for 4 months. Well Rummy was watching his own ass. And Bush just is not smart enough to understand that. Or as some of you here say Cheney is really running things. You just maybe right.
Obviously the terrorists do not need an excuse for their evil but part of the struggle there is to get the rest of the middle east and muslim society to join us in the fight against the terror. Sexually humilating a muslim is much worse them physically torturing them. They feel that their honor is violated. Sexual humilation is worst sort of terror for them and is is why Hussein used rape as such a effective tool of terror.
The fault as i see it is the privatation of the milatary that has gradually happened in the last twenty years. Bringing in people from the private sector to perform jobs that the military has normally done causes a break down in the structure of giving and taking orders. Apparently we have hired private interrogators to handle getting information from the prisoners there and in Guatomino Bay. reservists are acting as prison guards with little training in how a prison should be run to be effective. Soldiers are taking orders from civilian contractors and not military superiors because they have not faith in their superiors to handle a situation that is way above their capabilities.
I respect the reservists for their duty to their country but I think they are not prepared for these type of duties.
The fault as i see it is the privatation of the milatary that has gradually happened in the last twenty years. Bringing in people from the private sector to perform jobs that the military has normally done causes a break down in the structure of giving and taking orders. Apparently we have hired private interrogators to handle getting information from the prisoners there and in Guatomino Bay. reservists are acting as prison guards with little training in how a prison should be run to be effective. Soldiers are taking orders from civilian contractors and not military superiors because they have not faith in their superiors to handle a situation that is way above their capabilities.
I respect the reservists for their duty to their country but I think they are not prepared for these type of duties.
twofingers said:
Exactly. Having a bunch of 22 year-old American's (for the most part) policing a Middle-Eastern country isn't exactly an ideal situation. I really don't think most of them were prepared for the situations they are facing and that certainly isn't their fault.
I commend their commitment and service but it's almost like going in for a life-saving operation and once you get in the operating room you find-out it's Dr. Freeze who will be 'performing' the surgery. Not exactly the person best suited for the job.
Hoops said:
lol- no doubt. And can you imagine the utter horror going into Dr. Robotos office that you'd feel if you were black, poor, hispanic, arab, liberal, asian or a non-believer? Life-threatening or not, you're toast. You go in for a wart(no offense PRO) removal and you're leaving in a body-bag.
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You go in for a wart(no offense PRO) removal and you're leaving in a body-bag.
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lmao you intellects resort to your usual 3rd grade behavior whenever you disagree with a view.....going to whatever extremes you can to completely rip apart and character assassinate at what you may perceive at whatever dignity the person whom you disagree with has....i guess that feeding frenzy which reminds me of a either elementary school children or a old woman's bingo club fits some of you just perfect
there is absolutely NOTHING good that came out of releasing this information....and there is absolutely NOTHING wrong if this whole ordeal would have been privately dealt with behind the scenes.....discharge the people responsible, solve the problems, maintain a little bit of credibility
not too hard to do.....
i ask you....what good for America comes out of revealing all these pictures? why should we reveal every individual shortcoming in our armed forces to the whole world?
dont you see how maybe just maybe portraying our military as dysfunctional may hamper national security?
there is absolutely NOTHING good that came out of releasing this information....and there is absolutely NOTHING wrong if this whole ordeal would have been privately dealt with behind the scenes.....discharge the people responsible, solve the problems, maintain a little bit of credibility
not too hard to do.....
i ask you....what good for America comes out of revealing all these pictures? why should we reveal every individual shortcoming in our armed forces to the whole world?
dont you see how maybe just maybe portraying our military as dysfunctional may hamper national security?
