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Oh wow. Samuel Jackson. Thanks. Never saw that one before.

I gotta be honest, I don't even know what particulars you 2 are arguing about. Which Rush quote exactly are you skeptical of again?
 

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Here's the transcript in question, Wayne. Straight from Rush's site. I started to put in bold the relevant parts since you rarely actually look at articles, etc. before you comment on them, but decided not to since you were so hot to trot to see this one and i'll assume that you'll read it. The whole thing, if at all possible.

Will be interested to hear your thoughts.



RUSH: You know, I gotta tell you, I perused the liberal kook blogs today, and they are happy that these two soldiers got tortured. They're saying, "Good riddance. Hope Rumsfeld and whoever sleep well tonight." I kid you not, folks. You say, "Rush, why do you keep talking about these people? They're inconsequential." They are as individuals, but the Democrat Party is listening to these people. The Democratic Party is just concerned, went to their convention out there in Las Vegas -- and, by the way, I want to say something. The New York Times sent six people to that blogger convention out there. The New York Times sent six people, including Maureen Dowd.

You had Democratic presidential candidates out there at this thing. You had all kinds of media. This was one of the biggest nonevents in terms of influence and making things actually happen. But yet all these powerful bigwigs in the Democratic Party, the Drive-By Media, went out there, as though this was the first time something like this has happened. You know, and I kept thinking, the Freepers have been around doing this for a decade or more, longer than that, and have never gotten anything other than ridicule from the Drive-By Media, and these people at this left-wing blog convention are genuine lunatics, genuine kooks who are being granted the presumption of sanity, substance and size simply because they're a bunch of libs.

But if you go there and you look today, you will find some posters saying, "Good riddance! Well, how quaint. Two of our soldiers were tortured before they were killed. Isn't that just quaint. Maybe Cheney and Rumsfeld will sleep easier tonight," as though we deserve this! In order to do that you have to be sick, but to try to make some sort of sensible comparison out of it, you have to assume, you have to try to believe that what we're doing in our prisons such as Abu Ghraib or Club Gitmo is the same as what terrorists are doing on the battlefield, and these people believe that it is. They are deranged and delusional at the same time.

I'll tell you what I'm looking for, folks. I'm looking for the people who are always quick to condemn our country and our military for their so-called human rights violations, Human Rights Watch, whatever the names of these groups are. Have you seen any of these defenders of human rights step up to repudiate these Islamic whack jobs for murdering two American soldiers in their custody? They captured them and they are in our custody. We are being held up as violators of human rights in Afghanistan, in Iraq, Club Gitmo, wherever, and I never, just like I seldom, if ever, can remember a story in the Drive-By Media praising any heroism on the part of US soldiers outside of the first story about Jessica Lynch, which was sort of manufactured for a TV movie, I think.


But nevertheless, we don't hear any human rights organizations condemning the Islamofascists. These soldiers were in captivity. They were tortured and then killed. And, by the way, the Drive-By Media is all excited about this because they think this is payback for killing Zarqawi and this proves this war is going nowhere. This proves that Bush didn't accomplish anything. In fact, killing Zarqawi may have been a setback. I'll let you listen to the audio sound bites. On MSNBC today a female info babe anchorette talking to the Wall Street's John Harwood. Question: "The president has been riding a lot of good news over the last week and a half or so out of Iraq, but what does the announcement and the news of the death of these two soldiers do to the administration and that progress?"

HARWOOD: The president got only a modest bounce in public opinion polls after the death of Zarqawi --

RUSH: Stop the tape. It is not about a bounce in the opinion polls, Mr. Harwood. We are fighting a war. We took out the general on the ground, the commander. He didn't get taken out so the polls would go one way or the other. There's a lot that goes into these presidential approval polls, but make no mistake, folks, the president is not in as bad a position as these polls would indicate, nor is the Republican Party. It's irrelevant anyway because all this is going to be, not a non-factor, but other things are going to happen between now and the election that will shape it and so forth. This incident is not going to be a major factor, even though the Drive-By Media is going to try to continue to make it one.

HARWOOD: -- and the surprise trip he made to Baghdad, this is precisely the reason why that happened. The American people understand --

RUSH: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The two soldiers were captured, tortured, and killed because we got Zarqawi and because Bush made a famous night ride to Baghdad? Is that what he's saying? That's why this happened? It happened because we are at war, and Mr. Harwood, the Islamofascist insurgency has been doing this the entire time; capturing American troops and torturing them and killing them and beheading them. Where have you been? It's part of the war. This is nothing new and it's not because Bush captured Zarqawi and killed him and flew there to meet with the troops to get the poll numbers. It's deranged.

HARWOOD: -- that the toll of this war, more than three years long, 2,500 US troops killed so far has been growing, continues to grow. This is certainly a setback for the administration and perhaps in public relations terms a worse setback than the step forward he took with Zarqawi.

RUSH: See, so everything is looked at here through the political prism: How does it hurt Bush? How does it help Bush? It hurts Bush when these two soldiers are killed after being tortured, after being captured. Yes, his poll numbers didn't get much of a bounce, and now they're going to go down, certainly a setback for the administration in public relations terms. What about the soldiers and their families, Mr. Harwood? People volunteering to defend and protect the United States? And then to say this is a worse setback than the step forward he took with Zarqawi? You don't measure it that way, my gosh, talk to anybody wearing a uniform!


If they're a liberal Democrat general, you do not measure the progress of a war death by death, capture by capture, just like you don't measure the progress of a football game play by play. "Yeah, you know that touchdown in first quarter, that field goal kind of mitigated the fans' mood and the PR the head coach got when they scored the touchdown." This is embarrassing. These guys are supposed to be the guardians. They have First Amendment protection. This is embarrassing how limited their scope is -- Well, we know what that is. Destroy Bush, destroy the war effort. Let's now go to this morning from Baghdad. Major General Bill Caldwell, the spokesman for the US military held the press conference with reporters. The press has ignored this in order to obsess over the two soldiers.

CALDWELL: We took out another very senior member of the Al-Qaeda network, Sheik Mansour was killed by coalition forces in the very vicinity where we have been searching for two missing service members. This picture here is Sheik Mansour, probably identified as being in the top five of the Al-Qaeda organization. Coalition forces initially targeted a vehicle upon which he and two other people were inside. They attempted to flee, coalition forces pursued them, and during that time period engaged the vehicle and destroyed it. Sheik Mansour was a key leader in Al-Qaeda and Iraq, including having relationships with both Zarqawi and with al-Masri. His death will significantly continue to impact on the ability of this organization to regenerate and reorganize itself.

RUSH: Yeah. I wanted to play that for you because I don't think the Drive-By Media will. Did you know about this John? (talking to staff) Did you hear about that? You're not paying attention to news anyway, but you are now when you watch this show, but nobody's been told about it. Drive-By is not going ape over it, no big deal. In fact, there is even a story -- I didn't even bother to print it out -- there's a story in the Drive-By Media that this new replacement of Zarqawi is being "credited" for the deaths and the torture of our two soldiers. "Oh, what a leader!" The Drive-By Media can't wait! This guy is already in the field. He's been there less than a week and he's already got two kills. It's obscene, folks, to continue to watch this. But have no fear, because just as it affects me the way it does and you, so does it affect many others, because the vast majority of the people in this country do not want American soldiers to die and they don't want it celebrated and they don't want it talked about in terms of: "Does it help Bush? Does it hurt Bush? Two more soldiers died, tortured! Gotta hurt Bush. Yeah."
 

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Thank you Matt--I did get headache having to scroll back and forth.

Now you tell me--was his intial post accurate?
Of course, Rush said that Liberals are happy about the killings and that they are bidding "good riddance" to the deceased soldiers.
 

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Thank you Matt--I did get headache having to scroll back and forth.

Now you tell me--was his intial post accurate--can you see part omitted--do you understand why it was omitted/chopped--?
Of course, Rush said that Liberals are happy about the killings and that they are bidding "good riddance" to the deceased soldiers.




RUSH: You know, I gotta tell you, I perused the liberal kook blogs today, and they are happy that these two soldiers got tortured. They're saying, "Good riddance. Hope Rumsfeld and whoever sleep well tonight." I kid you not, folks. You say, "Rush, why do you keep talking about these people? They're inconsequential." They are as individuals, but the Democrat Party is listening to these people. The Democratic Party is just concerned, went to their convention out there in Las Vegas -- and, by the way, I want to say something. The New York Times sent six people to that blogger convention out there. The New York Times sent six people, including Maureen Dowd.
 
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Thank you Matt--I did get headache having to scroll back and forth.

Now you tell me--was his intial post accurate--can you see part omitted--do you understand why it was omitted/chopped--?
Of course, Rush said that Liberals are happy about the killings and that they are bidding "good riddance" to the deceased soldiers.




RUSH: You know, I gotta tell you, I perused the liberal kook blogs today, and they are happy that these two soldiers got tortured. They're saying, "Good riddance. Hope Rumsfeld and whoever sleep well tonight." I kid you not, folks. You say, "Rush, why do you keep talking about these people? They're inconsequential." They are as individuals, but the Democrat Party is listening to these people. The Democratic Party is just concerned, went to their convention out there in Las Vegas -- and, by the way, I want to say something. The New York Times sent six people to that blogger convention out there. The New York Times sent six people, including Maureen Dowd.

Wayne,

Perhaps you're not familiar with Mr. Limbaughs work(although I somehow highly doubt it). To him, 'liberal kook' is redundant. This is how he thinks. He thinks people against the 'war' celebrate soldiers deaths. Hey, you've made comments to that effect also and the Weasel practically uses that as his personal slogan. :shrug:
 

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Too long to read all this stuff, but I don't see how Limbaugh has much relevance today. His problems with drugs, absurd stereotyping, etc. have basically made him a stereotype himself. I really don't know people who even consider him in the same sphere as O'Reilly or Hannity at this time.
 

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Too long to read all this stuff, but I don't see how Limbaugh has much relevance today. His problems with drugs, absurd stereotyping, etc. have basically made him a stereotype himself. I really don't know people who even consider him in the same sphere as O'Reilly or Hannity at this time.

I dunno, man. He supposedly gets 13.5 million listeners a day. He must resonate on some level to a lot of people. Which is quite scary, actually.
 

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Maybe you guys are right - there are a lot more scarey people out there than we think! Just can't see how anyone can take him seriously any more. He is like a broken record and is totally lacking in credibility.
:scared :scared :scared
 
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