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By Rush Limbaugh

I think the vast differences in compensation between the victims of the September 11th casualty, and those who die serving the country in uniform, are profound. No one is really talking about it either because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11th.

Well, I just can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country.

If you lost a family member in the September 11th attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.

If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable. Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.

Keep in mind that some of the people that are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough.

We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11th families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well.

You see where this is going, don't you?

Folks, this is part and parcel of over fifty years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad.

Every time when a pay raise comes up for the military they usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low rent housing.

However our own U.S. Congress just voted themselves a raise, and many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one-time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month and most are now equal to be millionaires plus. They also do not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system. If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7 you may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed you in harms way receive a pension of $15,000 per month.

I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who are now fighting.

"When do we finally do something about this ??"
 

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Here's an unpopular thought.

Why are the victims of 9-11 paid?

Were the victims of Oklahoma paid?

Were the victims of the embassy bombings paid?

Were the victims of the first (unsuccessful) bombing of the towers paid?

To the extent of my knowledge none of the ladder three received any additional compensation. 911 was horrible and I understand having compassion for those who expired there and for the families of the departed. 4.7 million? I believe this is in addition to their life insurance policies.
 

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Regarding 9/11 compensation...established charities and charities set up right after 9/11 were designed to get money for the victim's families.

The outrage of the bombings saw just unprecedent charity pour in, intended for that use.

Those victim's families can't feel guilty because of it. If someone had the gumption to set up charities after those other events, they would have received compensation too -- maybe not as much, but some.

It's not like the government just handed money out to victims. It might not look fair on the surface that a dead serviceman's family gets less, but keep in mind that's a person that made a choice to go into the military knowing the risks and benfits, and that the government made a choice to put him/her in battle. That's completely different than a person dying from a terrorist attack.

If someone wants to start a charity for the families of soldiers killed in battle, I bet they could get a pretty good fund going. And given that it only looks like we'll lose 50+ (who knows, if it gets bad, 500?) that's still a lot less people than were lost in 9/11. Start one up.
 

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What about these folks....Keep in mind that some of the people that are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough.

Whould you agree that this is a shame?
 

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I'd agree that complaing about that is a shame.

I'd like to see where someone getting 1.8 million is saying its not enough though. That's takes more gall than anyone I've ever know.
 

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There is one big differance. Im surprised a smart guy like righty Rush forget to have said it. All those in the towers 9/11 were just folks doing a job. All service men/woman know they sign up freely They know danger including death may come there way someday.
 

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Not taking one side or the other. Just got this E-Mail this morning and thought it was worth posting. Remember all the Snafu's on Visas, Argenbright Security, etc. not to mention the Illegal Aliens also working in the WTC that were killed.
Something to think about w/ all the Americans buried in Normandy or entombed @ Pearl Harbor or never coming home from Korea/Viet Nam...:(
 
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TheShrimp said:
It might not look fair on the surface that a dead serviceman's family gets less, but keep in mind that's a person that made a choice to go into the military knowing the risks and benfits, and that the government made a choice to put him/her in battle. That's completely different than a person dying from a terrorist attack.

I guess the firemen and police should get none of the pie they will be receiving BECAUSE they knew the risk and benefits::The soldier sits in Garbage conditions while having someone try to Kill him and that compares to MR. Stock Broker hauling in 500,000 a year sitting in his cushy chair.
The soldiers that are killed DESERVE a MINIMUM of 1.5 Million::
 

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All those in the towers 9/11 were just folks doing a job.

While I agree that the victim's families should be taken care of as money was donated for them after this terible trajedy. What about when a postal worker blows a gasket and kills a few co-workers? Or for that matter if anybody were to get killed while at work by some whacked out f--k. Are they just victims of circumstance?

I know that these things are on a totally different scale, but where is the line drawn?

I do not have the answer, but no matter what is done some will feel that were not compensated fairly, while looking at others and wondering why they got so much.

I do also agree that the death benefit for our sevice men and women should be increased. They get paid for shit for doing a job that most would not, and I would not think that extra life insurance is something that most could afford.

God bless our troops.
 

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Well guys then we better raise taxes. We have many to back pay.
I mean we cant just start now. Lets get it to the familes going back to the battle for our freedom. Heck just for the civil war we had over 600000 dead. Cant pick and choose. All or none. And yes Fireman, Policeman, Military all know risk there taking. Rush is just blowing smoke up everyones ass as normal. Hey I dont care give it to them. Just like the familes that have doctors fu?? up. But the government passed a law saying 250 thousand only. Hell lets change that back to 1.5 million. Hey what about the life guard that dies trying to save someones child or even a old chit like me. I mean we can go on for ever. Soon we all will get 1.5 million for any terror attack. Rush must have been smoking that weed he uses to do years ago.
 
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djv said:
Well guys then we better raise taxes. We have many to back pay.

Fine I'll pay more for their service, They our protecting OUR country and way of LIFE:::

Instead of paying 200,000 here there and everywhere for bullcrap studies on the Impact of the Spotted OWL etc etc let us provide for the PEOPLE who unselfishly serve us:::

Sorry for the Vets, but you always have to start somewhere:::
 

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Lets just raise taxes? Why don't we start slashing the worthless social programs that liberals are using to buy votes. Raising taxes just decreases spending and jobs get lost therefor a tax increase just hurts everyone.

Limbaugh is smart enough to understand that money was donated to 9-11 families, and that soldiers know what they are getting into. The main thing that really gets to him is the fact that the military and CIA were gutted for 8 years in favor of social programs.
 

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I guess the firemen and police should get none of the pie they will be receiving BECAUSE they knew the risk and benefits::The soldier sits in Garbage conditions while having someone try to Kill him and that compares to MR. Stock Broker hauling in 500,000 a year sitting in his cushy chair.
The soldiers that are killed DESERVE a MINIMUM of 1.5 Million::


I realize this is an unpopular opinion, but the Military is a volunteer job. You take the medical benefits, college money, training, and other benefits knowing the risk that you may be called in to battle.

Yes, They are brave.

Yes, they deserve everything they get.

Yes, they may deserve more then they get.

The point is they chose the position they are in. I thank G-d for these Men and Women that protect our freedom but we do have volunteer armed services. If the solider wanted to become a ?stockbroker hauling in 500K? then he/she should have gone to college. It?s an equation of supply and demand. They must be paying enough because they have enough recruits. If they had less recruits they would pay more. They pay what the market bears. Sadly, everyone who joins knows the risks and benefits.

God Bless all of our troops.
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A: the Medical benefits::Be real ,the High rollers get all meds paid, as do most Fed employees that don't put their hide on the LINE:

B:Education::Yes they get $$ for future ED, but they roll the dice with Their LIFE:plus Companies always give Continuing ED Bennys to the HClass Employees::

C:Training::Yes they get trained in their "field", But I was Trained in one of MY Fields and didn't have to ever worry about Sudden Termination!!

D:pAY: No, they pay low BECAUSE these people Don't ASK and WHINE for More, they see serving the Country as a awesome SALARY::

Simple as this :: Many Companies Provide Training, Hcare,and Continuing ED to their Employees:rolleyes:BUT the Soldiers of the Military Stake their LIVES on it::::
 
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Pro, maybe you should start a charity for these families. Most of the 9-11 stuff came from similar ventures.
 

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the soldiers are heroes....the firemen and cops of 9/11 are heroes....but are these media reporters heroes?....they aren`t forced to go into a war zone...many will write books,do interviews...make serious money and career moves based on being "right there"....i don`t consider them heroes..personal choice and accountability.....much like some moron that goes skiing in an unsafe area and gets whacked by an avalanche and needs people and resources expended to save his sorry ass...or some yoyo camper or hiker that goes into off into the woods and gets lost,causing more resources to be used to find his sorry ass.....and then get`s hailed as a hero because his survival instinct clicked in...l ...or some hunter that gets whacked by friendly fire knowing full well that there are mo-mo`s out in the woods drinking and shooting..some sky diver or bunji-jumper..that`s the chance you take....when you willingly and with full consideration put yourself in a potentially dangerous situatiion,then it`s on you...stupidity, self preservation,or ulterior motivation do not a hero make.......i think the hero word is thrown around way to much...
 
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