Saddam now admits to mass genocide - GO W!!

[Penguinfan]

When I get to be president I'll tell you.

Obvioulsy you are saying I couldn't accomplish the above tasks, maybe not, however it is hard to listen to your "W is god" nonsense every day when he obviously has not accomplished them either, especially considering it is his job.

Unfortunatly it will be history that bears him out as one of the worst 5 presidents our country has had and by that time you will be long gone from this forum (fingres crossed).


Oh, and by the way, I do not consider the death of 2000 soldiers in exchange for not accomplishing democracy in Iraq a good trade.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

When I get to be president I'll tell you.

I rest my case!!!! You couldn't even back up your own statements! :clap: Thanks for the debate penguin. Man this is like shooting fish in a barrel. Have a nice day guys!

 

[Penguinfan]

Penguinfan rolls eyes and hopes everone in cockran Ca is not a blithering idiot.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Hey you're the one who made comments that you couldn't back up, not me. I guess when you are losing a debate it's easier to insult the person you are debating with by calling them names rather than enforcing your own argument. Nice touch lol.

 

[djv]

What debate. That Saddam was not worth 2000 dead soldiers. Or that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Or that Saddam was our buddy for 10 years and not worth our trouble for over 20. How did he get important. I remember someone started a story he was coming for us. Ya Right.

 

[DEACONFROST]

REMEMBER

REMEMBER

gas was 92c a gallon when Bush started his glorious rise to power! nuff said!

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

I was talking to Penguin. If you think removing Saddam wasn't worth it, then that's your opinion. Everyone says he needed to go. Even Bill Clinton said given what we knew then, he would have done the same thing.

As for Saddam having nothing to do with 9-11...that has been explained many times in here already. 9-11 taught us that we no longer can allow terrorists like Saddam to maintain breeding grounds for terrorism. We need to get them before they get us. Also what about all the people who said there were WMD's?? CIA, FBI, Russia, Germany, British MI5, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Sandy Berger,Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Al Gore and practically every other democrat in Washington. Did you know that Saddam was paying $50,000 to the families of suicide bombers in Israel? Isn't it funny that ever since Saddam was overthrown those suicide bombers stopped? Hell even Hillary Clinton said Iraq was harboring terrorists and creating WMD's.

The monday morning QB act is getting old, but I guess you guys have no alternative plans or ideas except pointing fingers and playing the negative blame game.

 

[djv]

There are more terrorist being trained since we invade Iraq then there was before. And our Army says many right in Iraq. Dam good thing we clean it out.

 

[Marco]

"How do you turn a terrorist nation into a democracy in under 3 years?"

"How do you go to war, overthrow a dictator, establish a democracy and not lose over 2,000 troops?"

You're assuming that democracy is firmly in place and viable....when in fact if anything it's on weak legs at best, if we were to pull out the Sunnis and Shias would have thier free-for-all, all they're doing right now is waiting for the referee to leave the ring....

New Orleans floods out, and in the US where democracy is firmly entrenched, looters are shooting at the cops and the firemen and the helicopters, and I'm supposed to think that we can establish democracy in a land that will have to consult the Koran before they can hand out a ticket to the owner of a speeding camel?

OBL is still on the loose, maybe in Pakistan, who really knows where? We just offered him a free pass by pitching tents in Iraq and taking on all the local patriots who are pissed that we are in thier holy land....

If anything OBL is turning this whole movement from a national ideal into a international movement, and nobody really seems bothered with the thought that no one knows where he is at.....

There is a $25 million dollar bounty on his head, and in a world of greed and individualism where people are looking out for thier own a$$ and cutting deals with the feds and ratting out thier own.......there is nobody willing to come forward for 25 million to tell where he's at......Does that tell you anything about thier movement and thier members?

They got guys willing to strap on a bomb and knowingly die, our guys are trying to survive the day and get back home in one piece.....

The religious tradition and depth of religious ideology in the middle east is being totally ignored, and is why little progress will be made to reform them into a western government, a government and a lifestyle which they devoutly despise.....for them the Koran comes first above everything, and for them to even remotely begin any attempt at democracy, the Koran will have to take second place behind a constitution that offers fairness to all groups and people, and separates church and state as ours does......It's not going to happen...

 

[kosar]

The religious tradition and depth of religious ideology in the middle east is being totally ignored, and is why little progress will be made to reform them into a western government, a government and a lifestyle which they devoutly despise.....for them the Koran comes first above everything, and for them to even remotely begin any attempt at democracy, the Koran will have to take second place behind a constitution that offers fairness to all groups and people, and separates church and state as ours does......It's not going to happen...

Exactly.

 

[Penguinfan]

4. What technique would you use to capture Bin Laden, considering that we can't put troops in Pakistan?

Yea, we can't put troops in Pakistan so Bin Laden gets a free pass, thank goodness we had that engraved invitation to invade Iraq.


Are all of your heros mass murderers or just Manson and Bush?

 

[danmurphy jr]

Saddam never killed anybody, neither did Bin Laden. What's the fuss.
Bush never killed anyone, neither did Rumsfeld. Stiil no fuss.

 

[ferdville]

Saddam never killed anybody? That is not true. He personally killed many people.