San Jose - Panama City, here I come!

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Well fellas, it?s time for another trip to my favorite part of the world, Central America. I?m leaving this Saturday morning for four days in Costa Rica followed by four more in Panama City. This trip should be particularly interesting as it will be primarily devoted to looking for investment and retirement opportunities.

I had almost decided on retiring to Costa Rica but when I was discussing this with someone in the offshore gambling industry a few months back, he strongly recommended that I look into Panama before making a decision. I recently contacted this person again and he put me in touch with his brother who runs the sportsbook at the Veneto Hotel & Casino and who will be my host for the trip. The Veneto has been described to me as a cross between Caesar?s Palace and the Hotel Del Rey in San Jose, CR which is a combination that I really find appealing.

As it turns out, Panama City is a beautiful and modern city which is in the midst of an unbelievable real estate boom. According to a recent article that I read, there are currently 172 high-rise condo projects either under construction or in the planning phase in Panama City. Well, you?ll never guess what I do for a living; design high-rise condos.

In 1987 the Panamanian government passed what is called Law No. 9 which was aimed at boosting foreign retirement income under the Pensionado program. Additionally, the Investment Stability Law, passed in 1998, protects foreign investors from any change in tax, customs, municipal and labor rules for a period of 10 years after an investment is registered.

Some of the benefits of this program for foreigners that spend time, invest in or retire to Panama:

● Newcomers who buy or build a new house won't owe any property taxes for 20 years.
● Residents pay no taxes on foreign-earned income.
● Tourism investments have 20-year exemptions from import duties, fees for construction materials and equipment, and income, real estate and other taxes.
● The U.S. dollar is legal tender in Panama, which insulates its economy from global shocks. During the Asian monetary crisis of 1998, Panama became one of the healthiest economies in Latin America.
● Once you become a resident "pensioner" of Panama under the Tourist Pensionado Visa, you are eligible for the most appealing program of benefits for retirees available anywhere in the world right now. The rules for becoming a "pensioner" and qualifying for this visa program in Panama are probably not what you'd expect.

Anyone over the age of 18 may apply and can qualify as a pensionado in Panama. All you need is a guaranteed pension income of $500 per month ($600 for a couple). It must be a pension from a government agency (e.g. Social Security, disability, armed forces, etc.) or a defined benefit pension from a private company.

As a qualified pensionado in Panama, you would be entitled to the following:
? 50% off entertainment anywhere in the country (movies, theaters, concerts, sporting events, etc.)
? 30% off bus, boat, and train fares
? 25% off airline tickets
? 50% off hotel stays Monday through Thursday, 30% off Friday through Sunday
? 25% off restaurant meals
? 15% off at fast-food restaurants
? 15% off hospital bills (if no insurance applies)
? 10% off prescription medicines
? 20% off doctors' consultations
? 15% off dental and eye exams
? 20% off professional and technical services
? 50% off closing costs for home loans and more

Panama has one of the lowest costs of living in all Central and South America: A U.S.-style home can be built for about $40 per square foot; unskilled labor costs $6.40 per day; a full-time live-in maid costs $120 to $160 a month; a beer at a bar costs 35 cents; a cup of coffee, 30 cents; a haircut and shave can cost as little as $2; an afternoon at a beauty salon is $8; electricity is about 10 cents per kilowatt-hour; water bills are $18 per year; telephone service costs roughly $30 a month; Internet access is $14 a month; wireless is available for a bit more; cellular-telephone service costs about $30 a month plus a per-minute charge of around 22 cents; and cable TV will cost you about $30 a month.


Sounds pretty good, doesn't it! I will post a couple of trip reports from both destinations to let you guys know how it?s going.
 

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a full-time live-in maid costs $120 to $160 a month; a beer at a bar costs 35 cents;;Internet access is $14 a month

This is all I need :thumb:

bring back some pictures of the maids for hire :00hour
 
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judge....

what happens if a new gov't. takes over & cancels all of this....ie....castro & chavez....then what ?

did you ever hear of corn island ?

i have a friend who married somebody from there & is talking to me about investing there...

just uncertain about these gov'ts..

good luck.
 

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just uncertain about these gov'ts..

good friend lived in Honduras a few years with a native Honduran Girlfriend. After few years he could not wait to get back to California. Not being a native he said was a drawback and in small ways he did not feel comfortable there.

(police & judicial system) he said was "odd" and he never felt really comfortable.

:SIB
 

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I can assure you that this is not a decision that I am making lightly and the research that I have done points to Panama having one of the most stable (financially and politically) governments in Latin America. The U.S. has already demonstrated what they are willing to do when they think that things are getting out of hand, i.e. Noriega.

Living in a latin country is not attractive to everyone but it is very much so to me as I was born and raised in that culture. Sorry, but retiring to Florida or Arizona just does not appeal to me in the least.
 

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Living in a latin country is not attractive to everyone but it is very much so to me as I was born and raised in that culture.

that is totally different:clap: and a natural and easy move for you..


like me retiring on Maria's Beach in Rincon, Puerto Rico ;)
 

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looking forward to the trip reports. the public ones and the private ones. have a good time, i'm envious.
 

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I hear Belize is a very nice place to look into. Sis has a place just north of the border and places are very reasonable. Also being developed very quickly.
 

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Look forward to report also Gregg--check out if they have any golf courses there--if time permits.

Would agree communication with others is main prob of retiring elsewhere--but would be cool to have our own mini community somewhere.
 

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My brother and I are getting really close to buying 10 acres in Belize for our retirements. Panama sounds as if they are a bit ahead of Belize as to their treatment of foreign retirees, but the programs are similar in many ways.
Belize welcomes the US dollar, they have set their exchange rate at 2 Belizian dollars to 1 US dollar. Cost of living in Belize is very low, government has had 20 years of stability once they received their independence from Britian. English is the official language so thats not a problem.
I've never been to Panama, but know several people that have and they are thinking of retiring there. Looking forward to reading about your trip, Judge.
Beer in Belize is 75 cents per 300 ml bottle...:D
 

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judge....

what happens if a new gov't. takes over & cancels all of this....ie....castro & chavez....then what ?

did you ever hear of corn island ?

i have a friend who married somebody from there & is talking to me about investing there...

just uncertain about these gov'ts..

good luck.
Al, I believe that Corn Island is off the caribean coast of Nicaragua which is north of Costa Rica. I do not know a lot about it but I think that the population there is primarily what is called "Carib" who are the decendents of various Central American Indian tribes.
 

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My brother and I are getting really close to buying 10 acres in Belize for our retirements. Panama sounds as if they are a bit ahead of Belize as to their treatment of foreign retirees, but the programs are similar in many ways.
Belize welcomes the US dollar, they have set their exchange rate at 2 Belizian dollars to 1 US dollar. Cost of living in Belize is very low, government has had 20 years of stability once they received their independence from Britian. English is the official language so thats not a problem.
I've never been to Panama, but know several people that have and they are thinking of retiring there. Looking forward to reading about your trip, Judge.
Beer in Belize is 75 cents per 300 ml bottle...:D

Good Luck with that Belize City is a dump :com:
 
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I lived in San Jose 95-98 for a little over two years -Escazu, Barrio La Primavera. Great place- except for the bus exhaust.

Also had a bank acct down in Panama, Panama. What a different world flying from San Jose to Panama. Panama is like Miami very modern- San Jose somewhat of a dump downtown. I miss it down there F U J. RENO!
 
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