Saturday 10/4 (Non-MAC)

hellah10

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Troy St +28

USC -11

North Carolina St -6.5

Tennessee +2

Vanderbilt +6

North Carolina +7.5

La Tech +7

Michigan St -14.5

 

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was surprised at that 2' UM-IA spread also. Opened at 4 at Stardust yesterday and moved to 2' real quick. :eek:
 

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Think your right on with +28 for Troy St., also like your Tenn. lean. Good luck, Buck.
Oh, and after Wife talked Me off the roof Sat.(Bama/Ark..ouch) I now see Bama +10' at Ga.? Any thoughts?
 

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Fresno St +6.5

Fresno St +200

North Carolina +300

Vanderbilt +140

La Tech +280
 

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Tell Joe Tiller that Toledo doenst miss him :thefinger

good luck *toot toot* (is that the Boiler sounds :p )
 

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Hey Hellah

Stick to the MAC...your best in that Conferance.

Iowa is the best underdog play of the day Sat at home vs Mich.
Mich ...overratted....on the road again in a hoslte environment.
Iowa one of the best defenses and special teams in the country.
Offensive had injuries to some of its top playmakers and and inexperiance caused turnovers on the road last week that cost us the game . Gave Mich St the ball inside the redzone 2 times last week that led to two touchdowns. Turnovers won't happen this week...Ferentz stressed that all week. We are getting ED HINKLE back this week and we have three true frosh recievers who are studs and have playmaking potential. The redshirts are off...Scott Chandler...Nathen Chandlers brother is a stud ..Nate is the Qb...look for him to hook up with his bro a few times this week...Scott played reciever for Plano Texas last year...losts of potential...Looks like Ed McCaffery out there...he came in at the end of the game last week for 1 play...but ferentz says the redshirt is now off and will turn him loose. Also James Townsend, true frosh from New Jersey...runs a 4.2 and Eric McCollum true frosh from South Carolina who also runs a 4.2 and played QB in H.S. last year and considered to be the best athlete on the team will see extensive playing time this week at reciever. Ferentz says its time for these three heralded recievers to step up and make plays....if they do look out! Iowa is the better team and you will find out this sat...don't waiste your money on Mich.

Also I like Auburn over Tennessee in a homer play!
 

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Chandler brothers enjoying rare togetherness


David Wallace Click for Caption

By Tyler Lechtenberg
The Gazette
Thursday, October 02, 2003, 6:47:14 PM

IOWA CITY -- Fourth down, an acre-and-a-third to go. A hundred trees in the
way. A heave for the touchdown. The catch -- and the trees go wild.
Third down, 4 yards to go from the 5-yard line. Eleven green and white
defenders in the way, more than 70,000 people watching. A loft for the
touchdown.

The catch -- kind of.

Saturday, Nathan and Scott Chandler were a toe away from turning Spartan
Stadium into that Texas-sized backyard from their boyhood in Southlake,
Texas. Scott made a falling-down, one-handed catch, but was ruled out of
bounds.

Sure, it would have been nice to nab the scoring grab in the third quarter,
but the Chandler brothers are just relishing their chance to perform
together. As Nathan put it, together with officials and scoreboards, not
just trees.

Nathan, a fifth-year senior quarterback and Scott, a first-year freshman
receiver, have always missed playing together by a year. For four games, it
looked like their history together would be forever relegated to the
backyard.

Then came Saturday, and Scott became the third freshman receiver to send his
red-shirt off to Goodwill. He never wanted the thing anyway.

"I just wanted to help the team and then getting a chance to play with your
brother is one of those once-in-a-lifetime things," Scott said. "You put
those two things together and it was a no-brainer."

The Iowa coaching staff approached Scott at the beginning of the season with
the option of playing as a freshman. They heard a resounding yes, but he
didn't get the call until Saturday, when the situation arose for his 6-7
frame near the goal line.

That frame adds another dimension to an Iowa passing game in need of one.
After injuries to receivers Mo Brown and Ed Hinkel, Iowa needed playmakers.
It turned to freshmen Eric McCollom, James Townsend and now Chandler.

The younger Chandler saw the field for one play Saturday, but Iowa Coach
Kirk Ferentz said he'll be searching for ways to better integrate the three
freshmen into the passing game.

"He's got a height advantage on anybody in the country," Nathan said. "He
does a great job of going and getting the ball. He just proved that he could
make the plays, even though it ended up being not the greatest pass. He made
a play on the ball and gave us a chance."

Yep, that's the older brother talking. The same one who used to chuck
basketballs at Scott just so he could annihilate him in one-on-one again.
And again. And again.

"I don't like to lose, so I made sure that never happened," Nathan said. "I
wasn't one of the nice brothers that let his little brother win.

"I could go out and I could play all day. Scott got tired of me winning over
and over again, so he'd try and quit. I wouldn't let him."

Cue the flying basketballs.

"If I tried to quit, he'd throw the ball at me and make me come back," Scott
said. "I think it helps me now because I never want to quit anymore."

Their mother, Linda Chandler, remembers the brotherly drama.

"I always kind of threatened that if they fought, I'd have to lock them in a
room so they'd have to get along," she said.

Now they go to the same room all by themselves, like big boys.

Nathan spends Sundays in Scott and Champ Davis's dorm room, on the computer
and watching football games. They go to church together, talk at practice
and eat at training table together. When Nathan hangs out with his friends,
Scott's welcome to come.

"Since I've been in high school, I haven't been able to spend time with him
at all," Scott said. "It's really great to spend this semester with him."

Nathan said they're pretty much the same guy walking the same path, he's
just five years farther along. He feels like an old man when he hangs out
with the wide-eyed freshman and his wide-eyed friends.

Scott said they're different. He said he's more outgoing, and, of course,
better-looking.

But that's splitting sandy blond hairs. They're just happy they're together,
and so are their parents. Makes travel plans a lot easier.

Instead of splitting up every weekend to watch football games in different
states, Linda and Bryan, the boys' father, are able to fly together to every
Iowa game, home and away.

That's their reward for living through the loud years in the house in
Southlake, a fast-growing rural suburb of Dallas.

That's the house that grew 6-7 Iowa football players, and another college
athlete, Caitlin, who's a junior basketball player at NAIA John Brown
University in Arkansas. An 11-year-old, Deborah, rounds out The Chandler
Bunch.

"It was not quiet at the Chandler house," Linda said.

Not with a hundred trees cheering in the backyard after an acre-and-a-third
Chandler-to-Chandler touchdown pass.
 

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Not even Brad Banks and Ladell Betts could help you win this game...

and I seem to be doing pretty good outside the MAC ;)
 

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Ball st Kent

Ball st Kent

Just wondering what you think on this game hellha. I'm leaning toward Ball st , basically because of the difference of performances both teams put forth against pitt. thanks

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hellah10

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boilermaker said:
That's fine we'll take him .;) He's one hell of a coach and a good guy.

yes he is. he runs veryyyyyyy good coaching clinics here in toledo. its helped dick cromwell (high school coach) win a Division I state championship! he thanked Joe in his interview few years back on some tips he gave him on how to condition the players or some shit about that...
 
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