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EXTRAPOLATER

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Economy pack for now...it's June already...I need some sleep.

Yesterday posted: 6-2 +1.6
Year (last 3 days): 15-12 +4.7

Anybody seeing this mess probably can figure out, approximately, what I'm (at least) trying to do here...

P.OPS is just my own, over-complicated (probably) form of On-Base Percentage + Slugging Percentage. I weigh the teams a degree vs arm of opposing starter, while leaving the rest flat due to any bullpen maneuvers. I also make some adjustment based on offensive streaks and home/away discrepancies.

PITCH was just to designate the rating that I give to each team's expected pitching for that game; the starter weighs in heavily, but the bullpen also factors in to varrying degrees (less for, say, Jason Schmidt than Mike Maroth, as my current projected runner-up for this year's NL Cy (Schmidt) can consistently go deep, while Maroth is quite a longshot for a complete game)

Trying a new system out this year. One I use for the NFL gives me pretty solid percentages to work with any pointspread, so I've been desperate for some way produce reasonable #'s for MLB games. Using the Force only works for me for so long. Results have been decent, but the system is prone to X-factors like that clown, Gonzalez, pitching for the D'Backs last night (oops). Other posts I saw warned about this clown being pummelled early and often; my confidence in that one was gone by the 1st inning, if not after reading the posts. Game was a coin-toss, and laying juice on coin-tosses is something that I am trying to avoid.

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These are just the #'s I have going in. Too grogged right now to fool around with umpires, and totals in general.

Team........P.OPS.......PITCH
Yanks........816...........80
Cubs.........719...........89
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A's.............718...........73
Phillies.......743...........82
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Indians......703...........67
D'Backs......703...........69
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Tigers........609...........73
Giants........804...........91.......(note: Giants strength is vs lefties)
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Orioles.......760...........73
Cardinals....822..........73
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Angels........794...........72
Marlins........770...........73
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Bosox.........838...........71
Brewers......730...........67
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Rangers......800...........67
Expos.........705...........75
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Mariners......814...........74
Mets............694...........77
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Jays.............820...........68
Reds............736...........67
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Royals..........718..........67....(this is for George/Chacon)
Rockies........878..........80....(Rocks OPS over 900 vs lefties)
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Twins...........760..........81...(# may be low for nasty Santana)
Padres.........690..........66
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Chisox..........698.........79
Dodgers.......650..........72
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Didn't bother with the other two (or more, if doubleheaders are).

My overnight (if I ever regain consciousness) picks:

Temptation RESISTED:

Cubs, with Wood to stop Clemens. Negligable value.

Marlins, with the better starter, I'd say, and unpredictable Angels offense (there was a coin toss with juice I DID pass on).

Bosox, where I get a PV of +4 at -138 (rated 62-38)

Chisox, PV +1 at -120 (rated 56-44 here)

Temptation NOT resisted:

Phillies(Wolf) over A's(Harang) -135
1.35/1

Giants(Schmidt) -1.5 over Tigers(Maroth) -150 (ouch...but I probably go another unit if it was -120ish)
3/2

Blue Jays(Davis) over Reds(Dempster) +100 (I need sleep ... this may have been crazy ... Jays pitching for this game will be an adventure)
1/1

Twins(Santana) over Padres(Loewer) -145 (and moving up as we speak)
2.9/2

Board looks better than yesterday - certainly more interesting.
I'm going to try to regain consciousness in time for the game at Wrigley, as it should be a beauty. Think I might tape it.
under 8.5 looks almost too good to be true, the more I think about it. Iassogna behind the plate, too, isn't he? (was at 1st yesterday). Crap...I'm gonna regret this (if I lose;) )

That was quick, aye? ... talk about convenience
Added:
Yankees(Clemens)@Cubs(Wood) under 8.5 -130 (ouch)
2.6/2

Wind supposed to be blowing out? Must be something, as this number can't be reflecting these surging offensives.
You guys did catch my word, yesterday, on the (alledgedly) first under bet ever taken, aye?
1964, Jim Maloney vs Sandy Koufax, with a total of 3.5.
Koufax shutout the Reds 3-0. Cool story, I think.
Read it in a book called, Betting the Line, by Davies and Abram.
Fairly well written (everything I read sucks since my recent bout of University), but they make some blunders when talking gambling proper, e.g. one place where the statement is made that you cannot lose money when you play both sides (w/juice) while trying to catch a middle.

Dang. Whoever invented sleep should be shot.

Good Fortune To All

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appreciate all the hard work bud.

Drop me a line. 3-4 of us Madjackers in Toronto meet up for drinks from time to time.

U can get my mail id from Jack.

Cheers !!!
Spock

$ Have to read again what u wrote [for understanding] since I got up at 7:30 am .. and slept at 2:00 am .. damn Spock has a sleeping disorder .. waking up on 5 1/2 hrs sleep on Sat morning after having drinks on Friday night :eek: :rolleyes:
 

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Re: Saturday 2 cents

EXTRAPOLATER said:
You guys did catch my word, yesterday, on the (alledgedly) first under bet ever taken, aye?
1964, Jim Maloney vs Sandy Koufax, with a total of 3.5.
Koufax shutout the Reds 3-0. Cool story, I think.


Read it in a book called, Betting the Line, by Davies and Abram.

will try to read that book.

Spock
 

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Thanks for the words, guys.

Spock....sounds cool. I think I will contact Jack 'bout that.
The few 'cappers I've socialized with aren't too serious about their work; I've had no luck talking them into using a decent on-line system - they prefer to take their chances with a shark (if that's the right term).

I was doing the phone thing with Chris (T-V), but I got bogged down with school, he got bogged down with marriage, and we've kinda been outta touch since.

I could use an experience like that. Too much socializing with university-types has nudged me towards recluseville.

Hope to be in touch soon.

Good Fortune All

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"...Quo fas et gloria ducunt..."
I was doing the phone thing with Chris (T-V), but I got bogged down with school, he got bogged down with marriage, and we've kinda been outta touch since.

Yeah, buddy, that was like 2 years ago.....

glad to see you back in here....

me? i'm on down time...

oh well, might as well post my plays in here:

today's plays:
1) seattle -135 ( 2 units)
would like to have made this a 5 unit play...but with my luck this year, it probably wouldn't come in.....:(

2) Arizona -120 ( 2 units)
(gave wrong info here...)
This is more of a play against Anderson on the road...

i'm still waiting for some fawking teams to heat up so i can hammer them and get out of my -36 unit hole this season.....

this has been my worst season EVER in any sport.

i hope it turns around soon.

good luck today.
 

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My email got to YOU? Interesting.

Regardless...Regards.

I take it you've heard about my e-mail request.
That was freakin' quick.

You watchin this Cubs/Yanks thing?

ALMOST qualifies as a classic. Oh, what could've been...
(under still looks fine, though:D )
 
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