Scary 60 Minutes W/Bush

[The Sponge]

How is this any different than the way most of you talk about Christianity/Catholocism?

I don't agree with much our current administration is doing right now, but it's entertaining how people like Sponge and others on the left have this elitist attitude about their intelligence. How is it any different than being Rush Limbaugh or Wilson?

I love when people try to bash the Church for mistakes they make. Are you ignoring the countless number of throughtless charity done on a daily basis that it and its members perform?

But I guess this argument doesn't apply when it is you being short-sighted.

ACLU = good
Christians = bad

Not sure why you singled me out. I never said i was smart i just say people are naive because they fall easily for a con. As for the christians stuff not sure if your talking to me here either because im not into religion. I save that part of my brain for professional wrestling. I do see your point tho. You can basically say that about anything.

 

[dawgball]

Sponge -- only singled you out because that quote was from your post. I don't usually use the whole quote option for brevity. Sometimes leads to confusion.

Most known organizations have their good points, or they wouldn't have succeeded in getting grassroots. There are certainly examples to the contrary, but a general rule would apply.

When the Catholic church has priests violate children, it demeans everything that they do. So it gives people easy ammunition. That does not mean the church is bad. This goes for the ACLU. When they support groups like NAMBLA (only using this example becuase it was brought up in this thread), it demeans all of the good that they do.

It does seem even when the ACLU's PR people are interviewed, they don't give a message that I would like to support. And I can see why people would feel, in general, the same about the church.

 

[bryanz]

What the ACLU does advocate is robust freedom of speech for everyone--

unless your our troops--a boyscout-a christian-and victim of a crime ect ect--then they are tooth and nail for the other side.

How come every side they take is against your ave Joe citizen and protecting the bad guy?

Maybe a little refresher course is in order on liberals perspective of freedom of speech when you don't agree with them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfnn7wTgoE8

I rest my case:142smilie

This is the same crazy shit that we hear all the time. Just because I'm not in line with Bush, I'm for the Aclu. I'm not for the Bush BULL SHIT & I'm not for The Aclu BULL SHIT. I'm for America Pal and you are not, You are for the Republican party first and America second. I vote republican more than not but this administration has made the biggest military mistake not only in my lifetime but in the history of this great Nation. Our President said in that 60 min interview that he was reading a book that Dr Kissinger had recommended. If I was President and was going to send men to die, I would have already read it. Even if I didn't read it, I would not be stupid enough to say that I was reading it now. Why the **** is this Genius reading it now ? He has over 3,000 dead and 50,000 mentally or physically disabled. Guys like you are not war hawks, you are just ****ing stupid. I'm a hawk, we have an air force and we should have used it. Why the hell would we choose to engage in a ground war that we could not win or will not win , when we could have contained from the air ? Why would we level the playing field ? You are one of those people that live in the past and are trying to win Vietnam in Iraq. Yes we lost in Vietnam and we were smart to get out when we did. America is still here and the communist have not taken over. Some made the ultimate sacrifice in that war and some have made the ultimate sacrifice in this war and we can't get them back. Some will say if we "cut and run" those that died, died in vain. I say if we stay, those that will die, will die in vain. This is a gambling site, we should all know when enough is enough and cut and run for another day. Guys like you could have shit in your mouth and if the ACLU said it was shit you would eat it. It's not about the ACLU, who cares about them ? You and them and people like you and them that don't care about AMERICA. Talking about the ACLU in the big picture of this war is just a diversion. You are just as Anti American as they are. I'm sick of pukes like you and them. Nothing personal, you are just one of them. I'm for AMERICA !!!!! You can put your smilie in there to act like you won something or you are right, but you are dead wrong. You talk about the liberals perspective and use liberal like a 4 letter word but you my lap dog should look in the mirror. What is the perspective of you and others like you about freedom of speech and thought that you don't agree with ????

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

per sponge "Not sure why you singled me out. I never said i was smart i just say people are naive because they fall easily for a con."

would falling for con be letting blog opinions trump the facts?--just curious

Bryanz
I am quite confused as my post you quoted said nothing about the war but was dissing the ACLU period--yet you agree evidently on ACLU --yet go off on some wild rant?? have they slipped some LSD in your cool aid

My perspective on freedom of speech--
regardless of what liberals-edward and ACLU tell I don't think our founding fathers or any sane person would put a few of the following under protection of free speech--
Displaying child porn
--directions how to kill people
--direrction how to destroy property
--directions how to perform terrorist activities
-directions how to commit rape and get away with it--or just directions how to commit crimes against humanity in general and specifically where children are concerned.

P.S. Did the video of your liberal media students at columbia demonstrating their version of freedom of speech get your dandruff up--quite revealing --wasn't it:142smilie

 

[djv]

Common Guys lets not let this government get us confused and fighting each other. That's the old divide and concur trick. Right now we have someone who has his mind set and listen to know one. And thinks that's what best for all of us. The thing that can worry you is he dam near acts nut's.

 

[smurphy]

this administration has made the biggest military mistake not only in my lifetime but in the history of this great Nation. Our President said in that 60 min interview that he was reading a book that Dr Kissinger had recommended. If I was President and was going to send men to die, I would have already read it. Even if I didn't read it, I would not be stupid enough to say that I was reading it now. Why the **** is this Genius reading it now ??

Yeah, pretty good rant there. Everything about Bush's attitude and introspection is just showing what a child he was as we entered the war. Only now is he willing to learn our history and the world. His inexperience and cockiness has put us in a tricky spot, to say the least. He's still not humble, but I think he's finally figuring out just how little he knew about anything 4 years ago.

 

[The Sponge]

per sponge "Not sure why you singled me out. I never said i was smart i just say people are naive because they fall easily for a con."

would falling for con be letting blog opinions trump the facts?--just curious

Dog that post i put up i believe everything the guys said. Was he an economist no that is what i meant by saying i thought it was weak also. i believe it because i believe anything cynical about these dogs you lie by. Go look at the new thread someone just posted. The one about firing prosecutors. Do you agree with this scummy move. These are thieves and pigs you swear by and if you were not blinded by a big fat elephants ass you might be able to pick up on it.

 

[Chadman]

Believe you were all saying same thing prior to 04 election--but the real poll proved a diff story didn't it---I think you will find same in 08

Do you really think when it come to national security people want someone whose only solutions have been when to quit--rather trying to win--who will let media dictate what happens--If the Edward-ACLU-Liberals had their way--there would be no survailence--checking muslims boardings planes/subways would be discrimination.

They are more worried about how treatment of terrorist prisoners--we catch Saddam --their X attorney general defends him--ect.

Bottom line--I won't vote for any party whose objectives are the same as terrorist--

What about the 2006 election? I guess you think that the obvious change in public opinion didn't matter a few months ago? You don't think that the type of candidate now lining up for public perusal in '08 will be able to communicate a cogent message regarding security and draw from the results in '06? Clinton, Obama, Edwards, etc...some very eloquent speakers there that will be able to handle themselves with this and many other issues.

The sad thing is, the Bush administration has us in such deep doo-doo at this point, all it takes is a strike from Israel on Iran, or an enacting of the American strike on Iran, or some such thing, to take this to an entirely new level. Who knows what the public will think about Republican warmongers if things explode?