School 1957 vs School 2012...good read
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I think there may be another more "obvious" problem. It's hard to have family values when "families" are on decline.
Your 1950-2010 correlation
http://familyfacts.org/charts/207/u...reased-dramatically-regardless-of-mothers-age
Percentage of births to unmarried mothers, by age group
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I think there may be another more "obvious" problem. It's hard to have family values when "families" are on decline.
Your 1950-2010 correlation
http://familyfacts.org/charts/207/u...reased-dramatically-regardless-of-mothers-age
Percentage of births to unmarried mothers, by age group
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-->Source: National Center for Health Statistics, Vital Statistics Reports, 2011.
Nice chart but why is this happening? I maintain it is because is out working rather than staying home.
My opinion. I will try and make this relatively short. I will hit some key points, but not too many details about the points.
A few reasons....
1. The breakup of the traditional family
2. The banksters, the Federal Reserve, and wars
2. The women's lib movement
3. Moral hazards created by the government's bread and circuses
First let me say, there is always going to be 'bad parenting' no matter what society you live in. Next, everyone has a different definition of good or bad parenting. Getting the state involved in parenting has never worked; and has only been used to further the state's agenda.
The women's liberation movement was actually funded by the Rockefellers. Why? Because they wanted more people on the payroll, namely, they wanted more people working so they can get more taxpayers, thus more money for the government. What better way then adding 50% of the population into the tax stream, then empowering women to get out of the homes and "work."
Well, your benevolent leaders of the banking world devalue the crap out of your money so that the cost of living increases and you need to work harder and more hours to both pay them their cut and feed your family. They do this through inflation aka legalized theft. Nowadays they call this QE, operation twist, or whatever other Orwellian name they can come up with. And by the way, WAR IS THE HEALTH OF THE STATE. They fight these wars to increase the scope of the power and wealth. These wars are one of the main culprits of their "need" to wreck the value of the dollar and usurp your freedoms at the same time. Win for win your masters.
The bottom line is that it increases the wealth of the bankers because they have access to the newly created money first. By the time it gets to us mundanes, the value of the dollar has gone drastically down and we need to pay more of these fiat notes for the 'stuff' that we need. This inflation is essentially a tax on the middle class and the people on fixed income. It wipes away their savings. Let's say your parents put away $50k in the bank, 40 years ago. That was HUGE!! Now, that $50k isn't going to get you very far for very long. So, while they are telling you they are looking out for the middle class, all they are doing is destroying your wealth and keeping you and your wife working your ass off so they can fund some worthless bridge to nowhere and drive in limos and private planes at your expense.
The good old bread and circuses... They keep the masses distracted by giving them handouts and not addressing the real issues. The amount of moral hazards the state creates by their handouts and "freebies" is priceless. They want to impoverish the masses and make them dependent on the righteous, all nurturing, nanny state. This has been going on since the days of the ancient Romans. Dependence is the 8th stage of the 9 stages of civilization. Bondage is the 9th. It has repeated its course thousands of time throughout history.
Another point more direct to the question... think about all the funding there are for single mothers. The state de facto encourages single mothers by guaranteeing to take care of them. I have people that work for me, that have outright said, they weren't too worried about it and they cite all these bs credits they get for being a single mother. MORAL HAZARD.
Moral hazards are running abound, all under the guise of the "public good" or "compassion." Often times these programs hurt the very people they are intended (supposedly) to help. See unemployment, minimum wage, productivity. If you tax something you get less of it, if you subsidize something you get more of it. This is economics 101.
I have so much more, but that quick rant and rattle off is good for now. Bottom line, (sorry airportis) I do believe the state is largely responsible for the breakup of the traditional family and the values that have been lost. We are treated to worship our altruistic civil servants, our brilliant public educators, and tyrannical murderous statesmen instead of our parents. The State knows best!!
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Hmmmmm, blaming woman's lib and and having a quote from Ayn Rand in their signature. Can you say irony?
Anyway, we are a long way from Stalin and Mao. Be serious now. :facepalm:
Anyway, we are a long way from Stalin and Mao. Be serious now. :facepalm:
Can you tell me what in that quote stands contrarian to one thing I wrote please?
And, uh, not close to as far away as you think. At first they came for the...
Read "They thought they were free - The Germans 1933-1945" by Mayer. Great read for you
Enlighten me...
And, uh, not close to as far away as you think. At first they came for the...
Read "They thought they were free - The Germans 1933-1945" by Mayer. Great read for you
Enlighten me...
1957
In certain states Mike and Amy go to school with only other kids of the same racial makeups.
2012
Now everywhere Mike and Amy learn with kids of all racial backgrounds.
Put that in a chain letter!
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In certain states Mike and Amy go to school with only other kids of the same racial makeups.
2012
Now everywhere Mike and Amy learn with kids of all racial backgrounds.
Put that in a chain letter!
:0003
Ayn Rand's very philosophy stands in contrast to the traditional family values you talk about. THAT is very obvious.
Also, I am very well aware of how Germany was from 1933 to 1945 and also know of the quote from Pastor Neimoller. We are not even close to that period. What a insult to those who suffered thru that 12 years.
Also, I am very well aware of how Germany was from 1933 to 1945 and also know of the quote from Pastor Neimoller. We are not even close to that period. What a insult to those who suffered thru that 12 years.
So when did our version of the Night of the broken Glass or Long Knives happen? PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME! :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
A couple things to note...
You didn't respond to my question. That quote has nothing contrary to anything i have written.
Is it your opinion that you must be in agreement with 100% of what a person says and believes to share a common belief??
Saying "we are not even close" is such a vague and obscure comment. I can cite hundreds of times thorough history where the flow of this civilization mimics the flow of ones that have become more and more totalitarian over time. I OBVIOUSLY, TRULY hope you are more right about that. I think you severely and ultimately tragically underestimate some of the things going on with this overreaching state. See the NDAA for some proof.
To me, it doesn't matter HOW close we are... i don't believe the state has the right to plunder the citizenry regardless of where it leads to.
You didn't respond to my question. That quote has nothing contrary to anything i have written.
Is it your opinion that you must be in agreement with 100% of what a person says and believes to share a common belief??
Saying "we are not even close" is such a vague and obscure comment. I can cite hundreds of times thorough history where the flow of this civilization mimics the flow of ones that have become more and more totalitarian over time. I OBVIOUSLY, TRULY hope you are more right about that. I think you severely and ultimately tragically underestimate some of the things going on with this overreaching state. See the NDAA for some proof.
To me, it doesn't matter HOW close we are... i don't believe the state has the right to plunder the citizenry regardless of where it leads to.
I won't wait around watching it get closer and closer without standing up for what I believe is right. Obviously I don't know the future, but I do know that the Jews in Germany dind't see it coming either.
The NDAA has given the state permission to drag me into a concentration camp though. That is scary, scary shit, IMO.
Any disagreements on what i said about the banksters, inflation, and moral hazards?
And, by the way, I never said what I thought of the traditional family... only that the Power elitists wanted it broken up for those reasons. I never gave my version of good or bad parenting. I don't care what you do with your kids... just don't tell me how to raise mine. And just to be clear, I have nothing against a woman "working" per se... but that is a different discussion
No her quote does not contradict anything you said. No, people do not have to agree 100% on anything to share a basic belief. Now that I have gotten that out of the way my opinion still stands that Rand's philosophy does not mesh with the traditional family. She was a athiest and never followed the lifestyle of a 1950s type nuclear family. Her point of view would be much closer to favoring women to go after their dreams and desires. Of course the Islam faith maybe more to your liking in the regard to peeling back women's lib.
Next, I am not underestimating the differences between 2000s America and 1933-1945 Germany. My two references to the Night of the Broken Glass and Long Knives was not 'obscure'. You certainly danced right past that didn't you? Tell me what has happened in the last 10 years here in America that even compares?
Plunder? Shit, that happened more in the 1800s with slavery and the Indians. Lmoa, keep them coming.
Next, I am not underestimating the differences between 2000s America and 1933-1945 Germany. My two references to the Night of the Broken Glass and Long Knives was not 'obscure'. You certainly danced right past that didn't you? Tell me what has happened in the last 10 years here in America that even compares?
Plunder? Shit, that happened more in the 1800s with slavery and the Indians. Lmoa, keep them coming.
The elitists? That is a opinion that it happened that way or a conspiracy theory. Perhaps women just wanted equal rights.
As for concentration camps, I have read about fema camps and the like on conspiracy sites for a long time now. If you want to be paranoid go right on ahead. Maybe you will be dragged into one along with Glenn Back and Alex Jones.
Actually some Jews DID see it coming as they left. Albert Einstein ring a bell?
As for concentration camps, I have read about fema camps and the like on conspiracy sites for a long time now. If you want to be paranoid go right on ahead. Maybe you will be dragged into one along with Glenn Back and Alex Jones.
Actually some Jews DID see it coming as they left. Albert Einstein ring a bell?
Oh :facepalm: I never said your reference was obscure. I said saying we aren't "close" is vague and obscure.
I don't care what Rand's belief was on that; i wasn't citing her for this. FWIW, I am more towards Rand's belief. And I am a jew by birth, but an atheist as well. I have zero problem with a woman, man, or anyone else pursuing whatever the hell they want. I don't care if it's my ideals or yours. I never said otherwise. I spoke to the Rockefeller's and the leaders of the movements agendas. It has been successful, but only with the help of the wars and the inflation that makes it harder for the average american to make ends meet.
Your Islam faith slur is an ad hominem slur that is both comical and typical of statists when they don't want to talk about the facts, but instead undermine their opponents.
You may think plunder is OK. I don't. I don't think it is ok to steal and murder to further one's agenda. Compare this to whatever you must.
Of course they should have equal rights... as humans - not dictated by some bullshit amendment. after all, them NOT having equal rights was enforced by your wonderful leaders. Same with race wars... the jim crow laws de jure enforced this atrocity. And again, woman should pursue whatever they want... what effect more women being away from home during the child's impressionable years does, I'm not quite sure... but I'm sure you do know.
Paranoid? ha. It's reality. Politicians lie. It's not a new or novel idea. The official line is rarely true, so don't try and make me out to be some nut because I question authority.
Politicians lie. Thanks for pointing that out as I would have never have thought of it.
Where did I say plunder was ok?
I am still waiting for a specific example of what has happened here in America in the last 10 years to compare to what happened to 1933-1945 Germany. I am sorry if I harp on this as it is a huge pet peeve of mine when people do that.
Where did I say plunder was ok?
I am still waiting for a specific example of what has happened here in America in the last 10 years to compare to what happened to 1933-1945 Germany. I am sorry if I harp on this as it is a huge pet peeve of mine when people do that.
