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Honestly, other than right after 9/11 what policy has Bush issued has been a rousing success that will be his legacy? I think this guy is going to go down as one of the worst presidents in modern history as he is approaching the zen like territory of James Carter. I think that the religious conservatives that are zealots should be concerned asbout the legacy that Bush is leaving behind because Bush will always be linked to the religious right and his failed policies will be the legacy the average person see's when they consider voting for a far religious right politician

agreed. bush is terrible and does evoke memories of that idiot carter. the damage to the religious right is a fair assessment. imo i am very conservative. i know that many church goers cannot see that he is bad for the country. his electing of conservative judges and attacking of abortion blinds many to his inadequacy on every other policy that comes out of the white house. we are spending money at an alarming rate - all in the name of "homeland security" i don't even know if there will be an economy left for my children to pay off the bad debts this guy has made for us. meanwhile, we haven't even fought a war with a country that can defend itself.....
 
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here is an editorial by the wash. post that goes against most of the media's opinion on the subject.....



A Good Leak

President Bush declassified some of the intelligence he used to decide on war in Iraq. Is that a scandal?

Sunday, April 9, 2006; Page B06


PRESIDENT BUSH was right to approve the declassification of parts of a National Intelligence Estimate about Iraq three years ago in order to make clear why he had believed that Saddam Hussein was seeking nuclear weapons. Presidents are authorized to declassify sensitive material, and the public benefits when they do. But the administration handled the release clumsily, exposing Mr. Bush to the hyperbolic charges of misconduct and hypocrisy that Democrats are leveling.

Rather than follow the usual declassification procedures and then invite reporters to a briefing -- as the White House eventually did -- Vice President Cheney initially chose to be secretive, ordering his chief of staff at the time, I. Lewis Libby, to leak the information to a favorite New York Times reporter. The full public disclosure followed 10 days later. There was nothing illegal or even particularly unusual about that; nor is this presidentially authorized leak necessarily comparable to other, unauthorized disclosures that the president believes, rightly or wrongly, compromise national security. Nevertheless, Mr. Cheney's tactics make Mr. Bush look foolish for having subsequently denounced a different leak in the same controversy and vowing to "get to the bottom" of it.

The affair concerns, once again, former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV and his absurdly over-examined visit to the African country of Niger in 2002. Each time the case surfaces, opponents of the war in Iraq use it to raise a different set of charges, so it's worth recalling the previous iterations. Mr. Wilson originally claimed in a 2003 New York Times op-ed and in conversations with numerous reporters that he had debunked a report that Iraq was seeking to purchase uranium from Niger and that Mr. Bush's subsequent inclusion of that allegation in his State of the Union address showed that he had deliberately "twisted" intelligence "to exaggerate the Iraq threat." The material that Mr. Bush ordered declassified established, as have several subsequent investigations, that Mr. Wilson was the one guilty of twisting the truth. In fact, his report supported the conclusion that Iraq had sought uranium.

Mr. Wilson subsequently claimed that the White House set out to punish him for his supposed whistle-blowing by deliberately blowing the cover of his wife, Valerie Plame, who he said was an undercover CIA operative. This prompted the investigation by Special Counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald. After more than 2 1/2 years of investigation, Mr. Fitzgerald has reported no evidence to support Mr. Wilson's charge. In last week's court filings, he stated that Mr. Bush did not authorize the leak of Ms. Plame's identity. Mr. Libby's motive in allegedly disclosing her name to reporters, Mr. Fitzgerald said, was to disprove yet another false assertion, that Mr. Wilson had been dispatched to Niger by Mr. Cheney. In fact Mr. Wilson was recommended for the trip by his wife. Mr. Libby is charged with perjury, for having lied about his discussions with two reporters. Yet neither the columnist who published Ms. Plame's name, Robert D. Novak, nor Mr. Novak's two sources have been charged with any wrongdoing.

As Mr. Fitzgerald pointed out at the time of Mr. Libby's indictment last fall, none of this is particularly relevant to the question of whether the grounds for war in Iraq were sound or bogus. It's unfortunate that those who seek to prove the latter would now claim that Mr. Bush did something wrong by releasing for public review some of the intelligence he used in making his most momentous decision.
 

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You can always find a spin that makes you feel good about your belief in Mr. Bush. I guess no matter how obvious the fatcs are, some people will refuse to acknowledge reality.
 

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smurphy said:
You can always find a spin that makes you feel good about your belief in Mr. Bush. I guess no matter how obvious the fatcs are, some people will refuse to acknowledge reality.


i copied & pasted the above article because i hate typing...i'm not good at it & it takes too long.....

imo, there are other things people can blame bush for (mine is him caving in on the immigration issue)...... but as far as this issue is concerned i think the only thing that bush is guilty of.....is hypocracy....but that is a disease of all politicians....

btw, the wash. post has been anti-bush for some time......& this is the first time that i see them siding with bush on anything....which impresses me.....they show that they came separate issues......that's more than i can say for some other media outlets & some people on this forum....
 
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