Sean Taylor is Dead

[Skipper]

I'm failing to see the connection between Taylor and the troops.:shrug: That's a very interesting spin to try and somehow make people feel guilty or wrong because they feel bad about this particular death - somehow implying that because they feel bad about Taylor they don't feel bad about the troops. No logic whatsoever.

Not trying to spin anything, simply making an observation. Take it for what it is worth. I made a statement that one of my closest friends knew the guy and said he was a **********, not that he wanted him to die.

Just interesting to me that when someone dies it is how they turned their life around for the better and suddenly people forget how they might have treated people while alive. You would have thought the pope died when Kirby Puckett died and that cunt beat the hell out of his wife. In reality he was probably a piece of garbage, but hey he hit .300. God Bless him and his family, just making a statement.

 

[airportis]

Not trying to spin anything, simply making an observation. Take it for what it is worth. I made a statement that one of my closest friends knew the guy and said he was a **********, not that he wanted him to die.

Just interesting to me that when someone dies it is how they turned their life around for the better and suddenly people forget how they might have treated people while alive. You would have thought the pope died when Kirby Puckett died and that cunt beat the hell out of his wife. In reality he was probably a piece of garbage, but hey he hit .300. God Bless him and his family, just making a statement.

ill take the words of the people who were around him every day over the word of your friend.

 

[Skipper]

"After Taylor was drafted, problems soon began. Taylor fired his agent, then skipped part of the NFL's mandatory rookie symposium, drawing a $25,000 fine. Driving home late from a party during the season, he was pulled over and charged with drunken driving. The case was dismissed in court, but by then it had become a months-long distraction for the Redskins.

Taylor also was fined at least seven times for late hits, uniform violations and other infractions over his first three seasons, including a $17,000 penalty for spitting in the face of an opponent during a 2006 playoff game.


Taylor endured a yearlong legal battle after he was accused in 2005 of brandishing a gun at a man during a fight over allegedly stolen all-terrain vehicles near Taylor's home. He eventually pleaded no contest to two misdemeanors and was sentenced to 18 months' probation. "

And I will take the word of my friend and the facts. I would think that his former coaches, teammates, etc are going to say good things about him. Hey, when someone is talented, you gotta to what you can do to keep them.

Again, Airportis, I hope you don't think I am attacking you, I don't know the guy personally and would not wish this on anyone, just giving my opinion. GL the rest of the season.

 

[Mags]

Not trying to spin anything, simply making an observation. Take it for what it is worth. I made a statement that one of my closest friends knew the guy and said he was a **********, not that he wanted him to die.

Just interesting to me that when someone dies it is how they turned their life around for the better and suddenly people forget how they might have treated people while alive. You would have thought the pope died when Kirby Puckett died and that cunt beat the hell out of his wife. In reality he was probably a piece of garbage, but hey he hit .300. God Bless him and his family, just making a statement.

I guess I agree with Skipper here. I have read all the "Sean had a baby and was turning his life around". That's great and all, but does that mean we ignore all the bad stuff he did before then? I mean, sure the guy supposedly turned his life around for the last 2 years - but the 22 before that made him seem like a bad guy (not that I know him or anything).

You can't ignore the majority of a person's life - and they way they were - and judge him based on the last few months when they finally show improvement.

Geez - pretty soon people will make Pacman out to be a great guy cuz he yesterday he helped out an old lady cross the street. Everything before that should be ignored, right?

This also goes the other way - people that were good people all their life, and do something stupid in the last few moments of their life.

It will be interesting to see what the investigation of his death shows. Somehow, I doubt that he was an innocent victim.

I also found it interesting that his year old child was there - and his girlfriend - but not the child's mother. Doesn't anyone get married, and THEN have children, and then STAY married to the mother of their child anymore? No wonder society is what it is today! What a messed up world we live in!

Ok, off the soapbox....

 

[Cie]

Funny how being an athlete suddenly makes everything tragic, when we have hundreds dying overseas every month that hardly go noticed.

Having said all that, very sad when anyone dies; just making a point that those dying in Iraq every day are far more tragic to me.

While I appreciate your opinion, I find it difficult to find the connection between Taylor's untimely death and the loss of life in Iraq. Both are tragedies in their own right, and feeling sorry for Taylor certainly doesn't preclude you from feeling sorry for our fallen heroes overseas.

 

[Skipper]

While I appreciate your opinion, I find it difficult to find the connection between Taylor's untimely death and the loss of life in Iraq. Both are tragedies in their own right, and feeling sorry for Taylor certainly doesn't preclude you from feeling sorry for our fallen heroes overseas.

Cie,

Was not trying to compare, just a thought that came to mind. I certainly did not want to imply that others did not care about our troops. I just think it is ironic that when people die, they have always, "changed their life for the better" - that is all

As a side note, I like the fact that you have joined the dark side as a Vol fan:142smilie

Also, I love the Fletch reference - Provo, Spain - not everyone would get that from the greatest comedy ever:00hour

 

[Cie]

I'm failing to see the connection between Taylor and the troops.:shrug: That's a very interesting spin to try and somehow make people feel guilty or wrong because they feel bad about this particular death - somehow implying that because they feel bad about Taylor they don't feel bad about the troops. No logic whatsoever.

Didn't read the entire thread before posting similar thoughts.

 

[Ronnie]

I don't like seeing anyone get murdered no matter what the circumstances are. I feel more sorry for his child. That child is gonna grow up without his father. There had to be something Taylor did to someone in his past that caused this murder. It'll all come out in the reports soon enough.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

The thing I found odd was them killing him and letting the woman and child live--especially if woman could identify them. I'm not too sure this was about theft--surely they knew he was home with vehicles parked outside--why wouldnt they wait till no one home--like 85% of other burgulars.

 

[Cie]

The thing I found odd was them killing him and letting the woman and child live--especially if woman could identify them. I'm not too sure this was about theft--surely they knew he was home with vehicles parked outside--why wouldnt they wait till no one home--like 85% of other burgulars.

A shot in the groin would indicate that a scorned lover or the husband/boyfriend of a lover is the culprit, no:shrug:

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

So he deserves to die:shrug: You're lame.

I'm with you on this one.

Look guys, the man has made mistakes in his past. He's done things that he's admitted that were bad decisions. He met a woman and had a child that changed him.

We can frown on him for all his faults, but why can't we praise him for changing and become a better person?

We're not asking you to necessarily directly mourn for Sean Taylor, but atleast feel for his family and friends.

Have you ever had a FRIEND close to you die?

Just because he's a professional athlete, and so are his friends, that doesn't mean they don't feel.

If you can't be atleast sensative and sincere about this, then go.....I won't even say it.

 

[Mags]

A shot in the groin would indicate that a scorned lover or the husband/boyfriend of a lover is the culprit, no:shrug:

Or someone with bad aim...

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

what does taylor have to do with the troops. Stop trying to compare the two things.

I am in total agreement about the troops not getting the right amount of respect but that has absolutely nothing to do with me or Sean Taylor.

Taylor was 24 years old and had made some bad choices in his life, please name for me five people who had not made bad choices at that age. he seemed to be turning his life around after the birth of his child, and what makes it even more tragic is that his child will grow up without a father.

Please stop comparing the troops to taylor because it makes no sense.

Well put Shawn.

People, seriously???

Just because there are troops dying, that means when someone that's not in the armed forces dies, it shouldn't mean anything?

Both are tragic, and both are things you never want to see. Honestly, you need a grip on life if you can't compare and contrast the 2.

 

[yyz]

I'm guessing that when this is all said and done, no one will be "shocked" at the outcome.



By the way.........I don't like to think of him as dead, but rather as having been "traded to the Saints."

 

[Skipper]

Well put Shawn.

People, seriously???

Just because there are troops dying, that means when someone that's not in the armed forces dies, it shouldn't mean anything?

Both are tragic, and both are things you never want to see. Honestly, you need a grip on life if you can't compare and contrast the 2.

You all get a grip too. I am not comparing, just making a statement. If anyone thinks that there is not more to this story, I have some oceanfront property in western Tennessee to sell you.

 

[Mags]

I'm guessing that when this is all said and done, no one will be "shocked" at the outcome.



By the way.........I don't like to think of him as dead, but rather as having been "traded to the Saints."

lol :mj07:

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

There is probably more to the story. But I believe it's his past coming back. If so, that's unfortunate, but the man was a changed man, period.

Why is it that we as people love to knock a man down, but we never have it in us to praise someone?

 

[freelancc]

There is probably more to the story. But I believe it's his past coming back.

according to ESPN he was fined once by the NFL for brandishing a gun in public... and reprimanded on one other occasion.:shrug:

 

[airportis]

Sure there is more to the story. Jealousy. Thats what it is and its more and more common with black athletes/rappers. They come from bad neighborhoods and they make it out and get rich and the people who didnt make it out get jealous and try to take that away from them.

 

[airportis]

oh and im sure all of our troops over seas have flawless records and never made mistakes either.