SEC 2006 Schedules

[blgstocks]

SEC more National Championships than any other conference the last 50 years!!

How does that sound?? Speaks for itself to any knowledgeable person!!!

But guess thats average huh??? Dont insult my intellect. You dont know me. only a dumb ass would make a judgement about something or someone he doesnt even know anything about!!! ......

Notre Dame sux and thats a fact!!

I think this is funny, you say only a dumb ass would make a judgement about something he doesnt know anything about. Obviously you dont know anything about Notre Dame if you think they suck.
You are such an SEC homer it is ridiculous, why do you keep talking up SEC like they are the greatest thing?
Almost everyone on this board has given that SEC is USUALLY the strongest conference. But not last year. You cannot prove otherwise, trying to argue a 3-3 bowl record being "best" and having highly ranked teams end up as duds is not "best". It is not a personal attack on you, just drop the subject and move on.

 

[thom24ad]

MORE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS THAN ANY OTHER CONFERENCE THE LAST 50 YEARS!!!

Your right but that has absolutely nothing to do about last season...no one is denying that on average the SEC is the strongest all we are saying is it wasn't last season...and really its a close toss up between the Big Ten and the SEC but I have to favor the Big Ten for its OOC, more wins per team, higher conference win % against a tougher schedule

How long has it been since Tenn had a season like last year...They were missing from the top whom I think will bounce back...Florida suspect at the start of the season stuggling with a new offense then finished strong should be solid next season...Auburn streaky last season with a young QB but they have a great RB in Irons and will be dam tough next season...LSU and Georgia were ranked where they belong and should be solid next season assuming Georgia doesn't fall off with the loss of Shockely...Bama couldn't score but played great defense and next season who knows what your going to get...so yes next season the conference is looking really tough but with Tenn being really down and some questions with a few of those teams I just think the conference was unusually down last season but the SEC should bounce right back this season

Man the Big Ten doesn't get much talk as the strongest conference every season as it shouldn't but give some credit when its rarely due

 

[DerekNJND]

Derek

Ranking thing: at one time 5(MIGHT HAVE BEEN SIX) SEC teams in Top ten(NO OTHER CONFERENCE CAN TOUCH 5 SO DOESNT MATTER IF IT WAS 6) THATS TOP TEN NOT 25 There we go again!!! TOP that???

Your not proving anything!! MORE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS THAN ANY OTHER CONFERENCE THE LAST 50 YEARS!!!

More wins per team
Higher winning % as a conference
More teams with a winning record
More teams invited to bowl games
2 teams invited to BCS bowls
2-0 in BCS bowls
and like I said, 9 teams that were ranked in at least 1 top 25 poll

pretty obvious from the facts that the Big 10 had a better season

I saw you post above that SEC had 5 teams win 9 games. Unfortunately, ranking a whole conference involves more than just the top 5 teams. The bottom 6 in the SEC went 23-43, and that was responsible for allowing the Big 10 to be better this year. The Big Ten's worst 6 went a combined 30-38...not that much better, but enough to distinguish the Big Ten as better given similar clustering of teams at the top.

ND has NOTHING to do with this conversation. That just sounds like you taking a cheapshot because you are losing an argument

 

[dlvlsu]

Two more losses by the SEC and SEC has one more team than big ten!! Simple math!! SEC has 3 teams in top ten(BIG TEN only 2) 5 in top 16(BIG TEN ONLY 3 in top 25) means alot better teams as a wholeand more of them in SEC which meand more losses for bottom part of conference. Simple deduction you have double the amount of good teams than the big ten has so more losses for leaser teams! So sure the weaker teams in big ten faired alittle better than SEC but for obvious reasons!!( THERE ARE MORE QUALITY TEAMS IN SEC THAN THERE ARE IN BIG TEN) Doesnt mean the big ten was better!!

 

[dlvlsu]

blgstocks Thanks for the comments you proved my theory right about dumbasses!! 3-3 bowl season really says alot about a whole season????? Highly ranked teams as duds? 5 ranked teams in top 16 half the conference!! Thanks for proving me right!

 

[dlvlsu]

I am definately not a homer to big a gambler! Just know where the best football is played!! Oh and I know Notre Dame doesnt actually sux but to go 9-3 against those patsies wasnt a big year!! Anybody could have had a winning record with that schedule!

 

[DerekNJND]

So sure the weaker teams in big ten faired alittle better than SEC but for obvious reasons!!( THERE ARE MORE QUALITY TEAMS IN SEC THAN THERE ARE IN BIG TEN) Doesnt mean the big ten was better!!

Again, you use the conclusion as evidence to reach the conclusion. WEAK argument.

You argue that the SEC has more "weaker" teams because the SEC is a better "quality" than the big 10. The whole debate is which conference is the better quality.

All this BS that the SEC has more quality teams yet the Big Ten has 2 teams in the nation's TOP 4 and the SEC has NONE!

I made my point a while ago, notice how everyone who jumped into this argument supports the Big Ten. You are trying to save a sinking ship. Jump overboard and save yourself. OR keep calling people dumbasses, tell us how the SEC having more teams justifies a lower win % (worst argument EVER), and keep bragging about that stellar 3-3 bowl record. Its your choice

 

[dlvlsu]

There you go again wrong as usual! I never bragged about the bowls!! Get your facts straight!! I said the bowls mean nothing compared to a whole season. Can you read and comprehend what your reading?? Common sense tells you when you have a greater number of good teams than another conference that means more losses for the weaker teams in that conference than the conference with smaller number of good teams!! Common mathematics!! Big ten has 2 in top four(one of which was lucky to beat a team the 5th best SEC team destroyed) and SEC has 3 in top ten!! Whoopeee Only number one counts for anything!! Just a sign that there are 3 teams in SEC worthy of being top ten and only 2 in big ten. AS I said before when big ten has these numbers come and talk to me otherwise keep wishing:
1) 5 teams with 9 wins or more
2) 3 teams in top ten Basically one third
3) 5 teams in top 16 Basically one third
4) more national championships than any other conference in the last 50 years
5) more bowl wins than any other conference since the bowls in history

COULD KEEP GOING BUT THAT IS ENOUGH SAID!!!

 

[dlvlsu]

ALSO thats basically half the SEC RANKED IN TOP 16
ALSO HALF A CONFERENCE WITH 9 WINS OR MORE


Thats the ole nail in the coffin!!

Half a conference in top 16 are you kidding me!!! HALF WITH 9 wins or more GEEZ

And you think another conference is better?? GET A CLUE!!!

 

[DerekNJND]

There you go again wrong as usual! I never bragged about the bowls!! Get your facts straight!! I said the bowls mean nothing compared to a whole season. Can you read and comprehend what your reading?? Common sense tells you when you have a greater number of good teams than another conference that means more losses for the weaker teams in that conference than the conference with smaller number of good teams!! Common mathematics!! Big ten has 2 in top four(one of which was lucky to beat a team the 5th best SEC team destroyed) and SEC has 3 in top ten!! Whoopeee Only number one counts for anything!! Just a sign that there are 3 teams in SEC worthy of being top ten and only 2 in big ten. AS I said before when big ten has these numbers come and talk to me otherwise keep wishing:
1) 5 teams with 9 wins or more
2) 3 teams in top ten Basically one third
3) 5 teams in top 16 Basically one third
4) more national championships than any other conference in the last 50 years
5) more bowl wins than any other conference since the bowls in history

COULD KEEP GOING BUT THAT IS ENOUGH SAID!!!

Just to prove how off track you are, what do points 4 and 5 have to do with who was the better conference this past season? I think you are confused. This debate is over who was the better conference in 2005, not all time. That conference was the Big Ten. points 4 and 5 have NOTHING to do with last season man!! If you want to try to make an argument try to stay on topic. Bring up Notre Dame and now this BS has nothing to do with the current debate.

If we were evaluating two teams, we would look at who had more wins, winning percentage (in case one team played more games), etc. Wins are what matters. The "wins" cut in favor of the big Ten, therefore they were the better conference.

Big Ten had a higher win %
Big Ten had more wins per team
Big Ten more teams with a winning record
End of story.

Rankings dont matter, you can make arguments either way. Big Ten has the elite teams in the top 4, SEC has a slight advantage in overall top 25 teams.

If you look at a ranking of the top 50 or 75 teams, you will definately find more Big Ten teams so why stop at 25? Its great that the SEC had a great top half. When evaluating the WHOLE conference though, every team counts, and those PATHETIC teams bottoming out the SEC are the difference makers because both conferences had some great teams at the top.

Please stop embarassing yourself. You lost this argument because the bottom 6 in the SEC are so damn bad. Its very rare that 6 teams in a conference can go 23-43 (20 games below .500) and still be the best conference FYI

 

[dlvlsu]

I am not the one that should be embarrassed your the numb nutter!! Basic mathematics!! Do you understand???? HUH Huh???

5 teams with 9 wins or better - 3 in the big ten- plus one more team in the conference with only two greater losses on the year??? Having half a conference with 9 wins!! You need to ask for a refund on your student loan!!

You say SEC has slight advantage in top 25 ummm how about looking at top 16!!! Slight?????

Your the one thats biased If the big ten was better I would say so no problem! They have been the best in the past I have no problem saying that just not last year!! Everybody is jealous of SEC football!! Always have been and always will be!! My last post also on this tired of arguing an obvious point!!

 

[dawgball]

Damn. I thought the political forum was bad.

 

[DerekNJND]

I am not the one that should be embarrassed your the numb nutter!! Basic mathematics!! Do you understand???? HUH Huh???

5 teams with 9 wins or better - 3 in the big ten- plus one more team in the conference with only two greater losses on the year??? Having half a conference with 9 wins!! You need to ask for a refund on your student loan!!

You say SEC has slight advantage in top 25 ummm how about looking at top 16!!! Slight?????

Your the one thats biased If the big ten was better I would say so no problem! They have been the best in the past I have no problem saying that just not last year!! Everybody is jealous of SEC football!! Always have been and always will be!! My last post also on this tired of arguing an obvious point!!

hmmm name calling doesnt change the fact that the Big ten had:

higher win %
more wins per team
more teams above .500

And you still havent dealt with the issue of 6 teams going 23-43. You can keep harping on the "good" teams, but that doesnt make the "bad" teams go away. We are evaluating the WHOLE conference, not just the teams you selectively choose

 

[dlvlsu]

I got your point its a good one. But get this: When you have more teams that are better than average(Meaning 9 wins or more)(heard some people classify that as greatness) take for example half a conference(SEC) that means the other half will have a lesser winning percentage against better teams!! But win you have 2-3 good teams and 8 mediocre teams( big ten) winning percentage isnt affected as much!! Simple deductive reasoning!!

 

[dlvlsu]

Its obvious the SEC is the better conference! No question about it. Big ten can win the better competitive conference trophy because of more mediocre teams! Anytime half a conference has done what the SEC did this past year no way it isnt the best conference overall.

In case you dont understand the validity of this point: If the big ten had 5-6 teams with 9 wins or more bottom of the conference would suck(worse lossing percentage) but no way it wouldnt be the best conference!!

 

[dlvlsu]

NCAA's Most Profitable Football Programs (In Millions)
Revenue Profit
Texas $53.2 $38.7
Georgia $50.9 $38.3
Michigan $46.4 $35.7
Alabama $42.9 $28.9
LSU $39.7 $27.5
Florida $43.3 $27.1
Notre Dame $41.8 $26.7
Ohio State $51.8 $26.1
Texas A&M $37.3 $25.2
Auburn $40.6 $24.2
Source: U.S. Dept. of Education from 2004-05 academic year

SEC DOMINATION HERE ALSO!! JUST GOING ON AS ALWAYS!!!

 

[thom24ad]

Its the song that never ends it goes on and on my friends.....


give it up guys because there is no reasoning that is going to happen

 

[DerekNJND]

NCAA's Most Profitable Football Programs (In Millions)
Revenue Profit
Texas $53.2 $38.7
Georgia $50.9 $38.3
Michigan $46.4 $35.7
Alabama $42.9 $28.9
LSU $39.7 $27.5
Florida $43.3 $27.1
Notre Dame $41.8 $26.7
Ohio State $51.8 $26.1
Texas A&M $37.3 $25.2
Auburn $40.6 $24.2
Source: U.S. Dept. of Education from 2004-05 academic year

SEC DOMINATION HERE ALSO!! JUST GOING ON AS ALWAYS!!!

Yet ANOTHER page from the "irrelevant" book. Check your own source pal. "2004-05 academic year". This has NOTHING to do with the 2005-06 football season!

Even if it WAS applicable, what does profitabiilty have to do with which conference has stronger teams?

 

[dlvlsu]

Nothing never said it did! Just another category that SEC dominates ( Making money) as football schools do!!

Face it: SEC DOMINATES IN FOOTBALL ON AVERAGE MORE THAN ANY OTHER CONFERENCE!! ITS A FACT!! LIVE WITH IT!!

 

[DerekNJND]

I got your point its a good one. But get this: When you have more teams that are better than average(Meaning 9 wins or more)(heard some people classify that as greatness) take for example half a conference(SEC) that means the other half will have a lesser winning percentage against better teams!! But win you have 2-3 good teams and 8 mediocre teams( big ten) winning percentage isnt affected as much!! Simple deductive reasoning!!

EVery time I try to abandon this argument, you try to make another point which doesnt make sense and I am forced to prove you wrong

You say if half a conference is good, then the other half automatically must suck?

consider this: In the big ten, 64% of the teams had winning records, while in the SEC it was only 50%. Your statement is not necessarily true. If what you said is true, that winning means other teams must lose, why does the Big Ten defy that 50/50 split of winners and losers?