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A couple years ago I seem to remember there was a poster that was near the Shrine game location. He would go to the practices during the week and post a play. He was pretty good with his insight. Anyone else remember this? :shrug:

Though perhaps it was the Senior Bowl and not the Shrine Bowl.
 

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East West Shrine Game Report

FROM JOHN MURPHY:



Houston, TX ? The ?Meat Market? portion of the all-star game circuit kicked off yesterday morning shortly after 9am as players from both teams had their arm, hand, height and weight measured and recorded as a full room of scouts and evaluators from the NFL and CFL received their first true look at the prospects body types.



?You look for body types? can a player add weight? how are they proportionate for the position they play and then you can even make note of some scars or possible past surgeries to review later on the players bio sheet?, explained one evaluator when asked about what he was looking for this morning.



Near perfect weather conditions greeted the East team, who practiced first as Bobby Ross, a former NFL and college head coach, led his squad through a fast paced two-plus hour practice session.



Here?s what I gathered from an initial look at the East Roster:



- Michigan State QB Brian Hoyer? throws a very catchable ball, has a bad habit of patting the ball prior to his release, but has a good release and shows good leadership skills in the huddle.



- Louisville QB Hunter Cantwell? looked too hesitant to make mistakes today and held the ball for an eternity on several plays. Looks skinny for his size and just had a few issues with both the plays and maybe playing in a new scheme for the first time with the pressure of all the scouts watching too.



- Clemson WR Aaron Kelly? showed very consistent hands, was open on most of his routes during 7-on-7 and even team drills. Uses his size (6?5?) to his advantage when the ball is in the air.



- Tennessee State RB Javarris Williams? has good drive in his legs, keeps moving upon initial contact and showed a decent burst on a few good runs.



- Iowa OG Seth Olson? handled his opponent effectively during most of his 1-on-1?s, including a few times where he stoned him or drove him right back off the snap.



- Kent State OT Augustus Parrish? had good footwork during 1-on1?s, he was active on his feet and did not over-extend, was better today than on most senior tapes, but during team and run plays he lacked strength at the point of attack and took a step back into the middle rounds based on his overall performance.



- Memphis DT Clinton McDonald? very quick off the ball, shed initial blockers in most of his 1-on-1 reps, made good use of his hands and stood out among DT?s.



- South Carolina ILB Jasper Brinkley? first look he seems a little stiff and upright running to the ball, but he shows good feet, balance and explodes well both when he plants his foot and comes forward and when getting to the ball carrier.



- Stillman (AL) DT Sammie Lee Hill? very good natural size, wide-body frame, flashed some quickness off the snap, had a nice spin move that would have led to a sack if it was a live drill, but later had a slight limp to his step due to a slightly strained left hamstring.



- Wisconsin DE Matt Shaughnessy? showed a good first step off the ball, liked his burst to the ball and showed a few moves during 1-on-1 drills that gave Ohio State OT Alex Boone some problems. Was the most refined of the outside pass rushers in this group.



- Iowa CB Bradley Fletcher? has the best size of the CB?s on his side and it helped today as he had a few good plays, including an interception during the 7-on-7 portion of the workout. Area scouts already know he ran 4.4?s in the spring, so a big week here could push him towards being a 3rd-4th round choice.



Over on the West side, the stoic former Alabama, Texas A&M and NFL head coach Gene Stallings marched his team right on time and had a strong tempo to their late afternoon practice session.



First look at West side prospects:



- Central Washington QB Mike Reilly? his ball was a little inconsistent today, seemed like he might have been pressing a bit during his first chance to impress the large contingent of NFL evaluators, gripping the ball too tightly can lead to some misfires, but during warm-ups and individual drills I liked his foot work and he?s athletic for his size.



- Colorado State RB Gatrell Johnson? showed up trim and down 10-12 pounds from the start of his senior campaign. Ran hard during team drills and showed some of the same burst and hustle that now has him rated among the Top-5 senior backs on many boards, but he needs to work hard on his pass routes and developing more quickness/agility to his game.



- Texas A&M FB Jorvorskie Lane? made a pair of one-handed catches during his first practice. Needs to do everything at full-speed in order to impress, just something missing from his all-around game, not sure he?s only 275 pounds as listed; would seem higher to me in-or-out of pads.



- Rice WR Jarett Dillard? caught the ball very well, went up and grabbed it away from defenders and was not shy from contact on inside routes. He has a chance to improve his standing among this group of receivers as he is still more quick-than-fast, but is so sure-handed as anything near him was caught today.



- Houston OT Sebastian Vollmer? rotated between left and right tackle, under-rated, homegrown talent who is still very new and raw to football; born in Kaarst, Germany, long, lean frame and could be a nice developmental type tackle for a team that employs a zone blocking scheme.



- Texas DT Roy Miller? short, stout interior defender that makes his money by having a strong motor. He keeps fighting opposing blockers, but has limited pass rush moves, needs to play with leverage and use his low pad level to drive the pocket back; nice situational guy for a team that rotates their DT?s.



- Western Illinois LB Jason Williams? certainly passes the eye-test with flying colors, well-defined upper-body, little tight in the hips when dropping back into coverage, but he flies to the ball and shows an extra burst of closing speed in the open field.



-USC CB Cary Harris? really was excited to see him up-close as he played as well as any senior cornerback this season on tape, good size, can matchup with most of the smaller receivers here at the game. Keeps his feet active and is not caught flat-footed on shorter routes, drives well on the ball, but needs to get a better judgment of his make-up speed when the ball is in the air.



-USC Safety Kevin Ellison? did not show any ill effects from late season injuries, very good natural size, some scouts indicated that his best fit might come as a 4-3 WLB, all-star game practices are the worst thing possible for guys like Ellison who is better playing in the box and given short area pass coverage responsibility, but you still see his intensity and willingness to be physical. The game itself will be a better evaluation of his talents.



-USC K David Buehler? big, athletic kid for a kicker, he kicked field goals at the end of practice when everyone?s attention was free, but on his own he was warming up and kicking off on a side field; his leg strength on kickoffs alone will earn him a shot to make someone?s team as a rookie as he can knock it through the end zone with regularity.



Overall, most scouts initial reaction was that the West side might have more talent player-for-player, but it?s early in the week and the next two days of practices will really tell the tale of the tape here in Houston.



WHAT WE ARE HEARING?



* The Senior Bowl has invited West Virginia linebacker Mortty Ivy, who will remain in Houston for the remainder of the Shrine Game festivities. They also invited Wisconsin offensive lineman Andy Kemp who weighed in this morning, but has opted to sit out the week and will be replaced by Nebraska offensive lineman Matt Slauson, who will join the action in time for Tuesday morning?s practice.



* Texas offensive guard Cedric Dockery seemed the most surprised of the players in attendance that he had not yet received an invite to the NFL Combine; his brother Derrick is a long-time NFL offensive linemen.



* Several familiar faces were seen along the sidelines during this afternoon?s practice sessions including Houston Texans All-Pro wide receiver Andre Johnson, Houston Texans cornerback Dunta Robinson, former NFL GM Ron Hill, Cleveland Browns defensive lineman Robaire Smith and roughly 40-50 NFL player representatives.






* According to several NFL sources over 150 underclassmen have submitted paper work in the hopes of receiving a current draft grade or evaluation of their respective talents. The same source said that an expected 45-50 junior/red-shirt sophomores could opt into the NFL Draft.












* A total of 43 players were drafted out of the 83rd annual East-West Shrine Game.



* According to Shrine Game staffers over 300 credentials were created for NFL coaches, scouts and support staff for this year?s game.
 

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Texas Tech players prepare for East-West Shrine Game

Safety Darcel McBath and offensive lineman Louis Vasquez can get a head start by impressing scouts before Pro Day this weekend.

McBath and Vasquez will play in the East-West Shrine Game at 3 p.m. Saturday at Robertson Stadium in Houston. The game will be televised on ESPN2.

The two have been in Houston this week getting acquainted with scouts, players from other schools and the community.

McBath and Vasquez will play on the West team along with other college standouts such as Boise State's Ian Johnson, Oklahoma's Manuel Johnson and Rice's Jarrett Dillard.

They will be playing against players such as Missouri's Chase Daniel, Nebraska's Marlon Lucky and Wisconsin's Matt Shaughnessy on the East team.

Gene Stallings, former Texas A&M and Dallas Cowboys coach, will lead the West team. Bobby Ross, former San Diego Chargers and Detroit Lions coach, leads the East team.

McBath said one of the things players on both teams have been doing is visiting patients in the Shriners Hospital for Children, which is what this weekend's game is for. He said the game helps raise money to go toward helping the children in the hospital.

McBath said he also has been meeting players from other conferences and some players he saw on the field this season, as OU safety Lendy Holmes is his roommate.

"Kids from all over the country," McBath said. "Talk to a lot of guys from the Big 10 (Conference), Pac-10, USC guys and some Cal guys and, of course Big 12. We've all been kinda hanging out and having fun this week."

McBath said the East-West Shrine Game presents an opportunity to showcase his talents in front of scouts before Tech's Pro Day.

He said he has not had too many detailed talks with scouts, but he is looking forward to the opportunity to play in the NFL considering it has been a long-time dream of his.

The safety who played alongside McBath all season, Daniel Charbonnet, also is making an attempt at the NFL. In preparation, he is training with Competitive Edge Sports in Atlanta.

Both will not be forgotten by Texas Tech defensive coordinator Ruffin McNeill, who said it would be unwise for scouts to overlook McBath or Charbonnet.

"I think they'll both be really good players wherever they go," he said. "The scouts have to make their own decision, and I think they're not very smart if they don't take those two guys on their football team."

McBath left Tech with seven interceptions in his senior season - good for third in the nation.

Vasquez, who was not available for comment, was a part of an offensive line that allowed 13 sacks on the year, which was fourth in the nation.

As far as his other teammates declaring for the 2009 NFL Draft, McBath said Michael Crabtree made the right decision considering he's already accomplished a lot at the collegiate level.

He also said he was not surprised by Brandon Williams declaring for the NFL Draft, saying he is a great defensive lineman with a lot of potential.

"That kind of a decision is a personal one," McBath said, "and he made the right decision for him."
 

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East-West Shrine-Capsule


Series: West leads 45-33-5.
Last Meeting: West 31, East 13, Jan. 19, 2008.
What's at Stake
NFL scouts will be the most interested spectators, taking notes on every move these college All-Stars make. Big-time programs such as USC, Oklahoma, LSU are represented side-by-side with smaller ones, like Norfolk State, Tennessee State and Richmond. For the players who never got to perform on national television this season, the game is a big opportuniy to make a dramatic impression on NFL teams heading into the combine on Feb. 20. And players who are better-known commodities can damage their stock with a bad performance, said former Super Bowl MVP Doug Williams, now a personnel executive with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who's been watching practices this week.
Key Matchup
Houston DE Phillip Hunt vs. the East offensive line. The 6-foot-2, 260-pound Hunt recorded 14 sacks this season, second in the nation only to TCU's Jerry Hughes (15). Now, Hunt gets to show off in front of the pro scouts on his home field. The East's offensive front includes starting linemen from the Big Ten, Southeastern Conference and Atlantic Coast Conference.
Players to watch
East:mad: Missouri QB Chase Daniel. The former Missouri star ranked third in the Big 12 in passing yards (309.6 yards per game), behind Oklahoma's Sam Bradford and Texas Tech's Graham Harrell. The 6-foot Daniel needs to prove he can overcome his lack of height to be an effective NFL quarterback.
West:mad: Rice WR Jarett Dillard. The NCAA's all-time leader in touchdown receptions (59) must convince scouts he can make the transition to the pros after setting numerous records in one of the nation's weakest conferences.
Facts & Figures
The East-West Shrine has been played since 1925 and is the nation's longest-running college football all-star game. ... The rosters include a total of 25 players from the state of Texas. ... Florida and Utah are the only teams in the top 5 in the final Associated Press poll not represented. Oklahoma and Texas have three players each, while Southern California has four. ... Bobby Ross will coach the East team and Gene Stallings will lead the West.
 
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