si.com's list of nation's 10 best & 5 worst college football coaches....

[AR182]

i got this from another forum & thought that some might find it interesting....does anybody have an different opinions ?

On Wednesday, SI.com's Stewart Mandel unveiled his third annual list of the nation's 10 best and five worst college football coaches. We can't stress enough that this list is not a lifetime achievement award, but rather a look at which coaches are hot (and not) right now. In other words, Joe Paterno and Bobby Bowden may be legends, but they haven't done much for us lately and as a result, aren't on the list. Without further ado, here's the list:

Ten Best

1. Pete Carroll, USC
2. Urban Meyer, Florida
3. Jim Tressel, Ohio State
4. Mack Brown, Texas
5. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma
6. Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech
7. Jim Grobe, Wake Forest
8. Rich Rodriguez, West Virginia
9. Mark Richt, Georgia
10. Gary Peterson, TCU

Five Worst

1. Al Groh, Virgina
2. Dennis Franchione, Texas A&M
3. Tommy Bowden, Clemson
4. Bill Doba, Washington State
5. Karl Dorrell, UCLA

 

[tulah]

Karl Dorrell is not that bad a coach.
Not much is expected from UCLA since USC is running things here in SoCal(maybe in Westwood they expect more). I don't think it's fair to have K.Dorrell on this list.

As for the best I agree with 1 thru 5.
6 to 10 I can make a case for a few other deserving coaches. The first that comes to mind is
Navy HC Paul Johnson, I think he is doing a wonderful job with Navy. Jeff Tedford is another guy that comes to mind. He is also doing a great job with Cal. Call me crazy , but I think BYU HC Bronco Mendenhall is a guy on the rise.
just my 2cents

 

[Cie]

I feel Richt is top 5, ahead of Stoops and Brown.

 

[thebsmanofkent]

Definitely agree with Doba on the downs and
disagree with Richt and Brown.

:SIB

 

[sdf]

top 10 recruiting coaches....Mack Brown may be one of the top 3 or 4 around.

top 10 GAMEDAY coaches....Mack doesnt belong on the list.

 

[Cie]

top 10 recruiting coaches....Mack Brown may be one of the top 3 or 4 around.

top 10 GAMEDAY coaches....Mack doesnt belong on the list.

Agreed

 

[abc]

I feel Richt is top 5, ahead of Stoops and Brown.

How so? Compare him to all the big name sec coaches. They all have titles..
Saban
Spurrier
Fullmer
Tubberville (undefeted)
Meyer


Richt loses 1 or 2 games a year he shouldn't :nono: And yes im a uga alum

 

[benfranklin]

Tommy Tubberville has an overall record of 33-5 over the past three years. Pair that with the best overall record in the SEC over the past three years I feel you have a top ten coach. Auburn was the only team to beat the mighty gators of 2006. Oh, I almost forgot, Auburn went undefeated in 2004 and beat a very, very good Va Tech team in the Sugar Bowl. Auburn will always be a second tier team in the eyes of the media, (ala Kirk Herbstreit), yet we have learned to live with the underdog role. I am suprised with all the media hype about the second coming of the bear Saban is not on this list. The list contains alot of great coaches yet TT's record speaks for itself.

 

[Cie]

ABC -- I would place Richt #2 on the list you provided behind Meyer.

Richt loses 1 or 2 games a year he shouldn't :nono: And yes im a uga alum

I disagree with this statement. I'll give you last season since UGA lost at least one game, probably 2, they should have won. Vandy @ home is a bad loss. @ Kentucky seems like another bad loss on the surface, but the fact that this loss was sandwiched between BIG games vs. Fl a and Aub. That's a tough 3 game stretch fora team w/ no better than top 15 talent.

The 2 previous seasons UGA lost 5 total games, all to quality opponents. Included in those 5 losses are @ Fla by 4, Aub by 1, WVA by 3 and Tenn by 5.

The year before that, UGA lost 3 games. Two losses came at the hands of Nat'l Champ LSU, the other was a close loss to Fla.

:weed:

 

[Skipper]

top 10 recruiting coaches....Mack Brown may be one of the top 3 or 4 around.

top 10 GAMEDAY coaches....Mack doesnt belong on the list.

Same with Fulmer here at Tennessee. Always has a top 5-10 recruiting class, but rarely at top 5-10 season.

I would also put Meyer ahead of Carroll. He has been unbelievable everywhere he has been.

 

[Kramer]

Karl Dorrell is not that bad a coach.
Not much is expected from UCLA since USC is running things here in SoCal(maybe in Westwood they expect more). I don't think it's fair to have K.Dorrell on this list.

As for the best I agree with 1 thru 5.
6 to 10 I can make a case for a few other deserving coaches. The first that comes to mind is
Navy HC Paul Johnson, I think he is doing a wonderful job with Navy. Jeff Tedford is another guy that comes to mind. He is also doing a great job with Cal. Call me crazy , but I think BYU HC Bronco Mendenhall is a guy on the rise.
just my 2cents

In my eyes Karl Dorrell was COACH OF THE YEAR
last year. When they beat USC my feet did'nt
touch the ground for two weeks, I was on cloud
nine. I was either grinning from ear to ear or belly
laughing for two weeks. No way he is a top five
Worst Coach.

tulah, not trying to rub it in, I know you are USC
fan but there are some of us out here that root
against your team, probably jealousy, I just can't
stand PC and his arrogance. I have to listen to
his smooth talk out here on a daily basis. If he
was a car salesman, he would sell more cars than
the next 10 most successful car salesmen
combined.

 

[wy1984]

I think guys like:

Mack Brown
Tommy Tubberville

Are more like great CEO's then great Coach's, but thats what the game is about now, I give both of them credit

Gl
Wy

 

[Teddy Dupay]

Ron Zook should be the worst.

 

[Marra]

Dennis Erickson should be considered - 148-65 - 2 national championships.

Tedford should be on there.

I really dont understand this infatuation with Bob Stoops - Good coach and all, but in big games since Josh Heupel, OU has frequently faltered.

In all honesty, Mike Stoops at U of A is a painful coach. He has a GREAT PR department, apparently...b/c every season U of A is the "next big thing" yet they haven't went to a bowl since 1998. I dont get it.

Mark Mangino should also get some pub for bottom 5.

Add Lloyd Carr to that list as well. Bad.

Another guy who isn't top 10 but can coach his balls off is Jim Leavitt at USF. I bet USF during a stretch last year where I watched most of the games, and he REALLY impressed me.

Styvester Croom has had opportunities, but he is running out of time 9-25 isn't going to cut it. Great story and all, but numbers dont lie.

Ed Orgeron from Ole Miss is also bad.

If Bronco Mendenhall has BYU up there again, he needs to start being talked about.

Off the top of my head.

 

[gjn23]

Dennis Erickson should be considered - 148-65 - 2 national championships.

Tedford should be on there.

I really dont understand this infatuation with Bob Stoops - Good coach and all, but in big games since Josh Heupel, OU has frequently faltered.

In all honesty, Mike Stoops at U of A is a painful coach. He has a GREAT PR department, apparently...b/c every season U of A is the "next big thing" yet they haven't went to a bowl since 1998. I dont get it.

Mark Mangino should also get some pub for bottom 5.

Add Lloyd Carr to that list as well. Bad.

Another guy who isn't top 10 but can coach his balls off is Jim Leavitt at USF. I bet USF during a stretch last year where I watched most of the games, and he REALLY impressed me.

Styvester Croom has had opportunities, but he is running out of time 9-25 isn't going to cut it. Great story and all, but numbers dont lie.

Ed Orgeron from Ole Miss is also bad.

If Bronco Mendenhall has BYU up there again, he needs to start being talked about.

Off the top of my head.

funny, but i just knew the dennis erickson campaign would be led by you....probably would have been the dirk diggler campaign if he were still there.

:mj07:

as for stoops, he's heading into his 4th year as a head coach anywhere (most coaches dont get a bcs team h/c gig as their h/c job). given the severe lack of talent left behind by mackovic it's no wonder this team has has bad (but improving) records the past 3 years; but fans expectations should finally meet reality as they should get to a bowl game this year and win 7+ games.

I'd put Stoops in the incomplete category right now: great recruiter-questionable game day coach but getting better.

 

[Marra]

funny, but i just knew the dennis erickson campaign would be led by you....probably would have been the dirk diggler campaign if he were still there.

:mj07:

as for stoops, he's heading into his 4th year as a head coach anywhere (most coaches dont get a bcs team h/c gig as their h/c job). given the severe lack of talent left behind by mackovic it's no wonder this team has has bad (but improving) records the past 3 years; but fans expectations should finally meet reality as they should get to a bowl game this year and win 7+ games.

I'd put Stoops in the incomplete category right now: great recruiter-questionable game day coach but getting better.

You should know how much I hated Koetter. He was an offensive genius (called one of the best offensive minds he has ever seen by Marv Levy (who knows football)...but a BAD in game COACH, a bad defensive recruiter, bad at hiring D Coordinators and a bad motivator.

What that amounts to is having a great offense, a bad defense and bad team morale. And a pink slip about a year to late.

It would be retarded for you to argue with Ericksons past, b/c you really can't. 2 national championships, he has won at every college stop, and he has over a 66% winning percentage.

Stoops is crap. If he had those kind of results and his last name was Johnson, he would have been gone this offseason. But b/c the PR manager stoops knows knows how to really pump his client, stoops keeps stringing along.

He also seems to be the opposite of Dirk, exactly now that I think about it. It seems he does know defense (probably not as good as Dirk knows offense) but he can't in-game coach and he is a marginal recruiter on offense. It all makes sense now!


Tell me he is counting on Tui head trauma again. Tuitama is going to end up like Corky on the TV show life goes on if he continues to play football. How many times has he been "concussed?" 3? When is it time to forget about football and hope you don't get Alzheimer's at 40?

 

[Roger Baltrey]

Dennis Erickson should be considered - 148-65 - 2 national championships.

Tedford should be on there.

I really dont understand this infatuation with Bob Stoops - Good coach and all, but in big games since Josh Heupel, OU has frequently faltered.

In all honesty, Mike Stoops at U of A is a painful coach. He has a GREAT PR department, apparently...b/c every season U of A is the "next big thing" yet they haven't went to a bowl since 1998. I dont get it.

Mark Mangino should also get some pub for bottom 5.

Add Lloyd Carr to that list as well. Bad.

Another guy who isn't top 10 but can coach his balls off is Jim Leavitt at USF. I bet USF during a stretch last year where I watched most of the games, and he REALLY impressed me.

Styvester Croom has had opportunities, but he is running out of time 9-25 isn't going to cut it. Great story and all, but numbers dont lie.

Ed Orgeron from Ole Miss is also bad.

If Bronco Mendenhall has BYU up there again, he needs to start being talked about.

Off the top of my head.

How can any respectable list not include Lloyd Carr. He still hasn't figured out that USC was blitzing on every down in the Rose Bowl. Terrible in game coach.

 

[3 Seconds]

I love the lack of respect or acknowledge meant Mack Brown gets around these parts...

If you actually take a second & look at the numbers & achievements you will have a better understanding.....

 

[3 Seconds]

From Blue Ribbon:

Dating back to his days at North Carolina, Brown is the only active coach to have at least nine wins in each of the last 11 seasons. His nine consecutive seasons with at least nine wins and the six straight seasons with 10 wins are both UT records. The Longhorns have finished the season ranked among the top 13 each of the last seven seasons, also a school record.

Under MB Texas has also had 6 straight 10+ win seasons, the longest streak in the country.

He wins, his system wins, his players win awards, he wins championships, he puts out plenty of 1st round draft picks....what else can you want from a coach??

 

[layinwood]

Personally I think Mac gets a bad rap because he is such a great recruiter that people think he should always win(and by win I mean the NC). Basically because OU had very good teams and beat him, he's a bad game day coach.

And this is coming from someone who hates the Longhorns with a passion.

To me this is the year to see what Pete can do for USC. I think Meyer is on his heels and could pass him soon.

I would take Brown, Stoops, Meyer and PC anyday of the week.