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Edward your sounding in good spirits today--got some more good news for you--

Keith Ellison the recently elected Muslin (Farrakhan supporter) is refusing to be swore in on bible.
--some escaping major news--and he forgot to ention this while running however would have made little diff in heavily Dem district--they would vote for UBL if on the ticket.

---and speaking of campaign promises--

Democrats Reject Key 9/11 Panel Suggestion
Neither Party Has an Appetite for Overhauling Congressional Oversight of Intelligence

By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, November 30, 2006; A07



It was a solemn pledge, repeated by Democratic leaders and candidates over and over: If elected to the majority in Congress, Democrats would implement all of the recommendations of the bipartisan commission that examined the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

But with control of Congress now secured, Democratic leaders have decided for now against implementing the one measure that would affect them most directly: a wholesale reorganization of Congress to improve oversight and funding of the nation's intelligence agencies. Instead, Democratic leaders may create a panel to look at the issue and produce recommendations, according to congressional aides and lawmakers.

Because plans for implementing the commission's recommendations are still fluid, Democratic officials would not speak for the record. But aides on the House and Senate appropriations, armed services and intelligence committees confirmed this week that a reorganization of Congress would not be part of the package of homeland-security changes up for passage in the "first 100 hours" of the Democratic Congress.

"I don't think that suggestion is going anywhere," said Rep. C.W. Bill Young (R-Fla.), the chairman of the Appropriations defense subcommittee and a close ally of the incoming subcommittee chairman, Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.). "That is not going to be their party position."

It may seem like a minor matter, but members of the commission say Congress's failure to change itself is anything but inconsequential. In 2004, the commission urged Congress to grant the House and Senate intelligence committees the power not only to oversee the nation's intelligence agencies but also to fund them and shape intelligence policy. The intelligence committees' gains would come at the expense of the armed services committees and the appropriations panels' defense subcommittees. Powerful lawmakers on those panels would have to give up prized legislative turf.

But the commission was unequivocal about the need.

"Of all our recommendations, strengthening congressional oversight may be among the most difficult and important," the panel wrote. "So long as oversight is governed by current congressional rules and resolutions, we believe the American people will not get the security they want and need."

Now Democrats are balking, just as Republicans did before them.

The decision will almost certainly anger commission members, as well as families of victims of the Sept. 11 attacks, many of whom have pressed hard for implementation of the recommendations.

"The Democrats pledged to implement all the remaining 9/11 reforms, not some of them," said former representative Timothy J. Roemer (D-Ind.), who served on the commission.

Carie Lemack, whose mother was in one of the jets that hit the World Trade Center, echoed that sentiment: "It wasn't a Chinese takeout menu, the 41 recommendations. You have to do all of them."

Democratic leadership dust-ups this month severely limited the ability of House Speaker-elect Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) to implement the commission's recommendations, according to Democratic aides.

Pelosi strongly backed Murtha for House majority leader, only to see him soundly defeated by Rep. Steny H. Hoyer (Md.). That chain of events made it difficult for her to ask Murtha, a longtime ally, to relinquish control of the intelligence budget from his consolation prize, the chairmanship of the Appropriations defense subcommittee, according to Democratic sources.

Likewise, a controversy over the choice of a new chairman of the House intelligence committee proved to be a factor in the decision. The Sept. 11 commission urged Congress to do away with traditional term limits on the intelligence committees to preserve continuity and expertise, a recommendation the House implemented in 2003. But in her search for a reason to drop the committee's most senior Democrat, Jane Harman (Calif.), from the panel, Pelosi fell back on the tradition of term limits. She has decided to pass over the intelligence committee's second-ranking Democrat, Alcee L. Hastings (Fla.), as well.

To the Sept. 11 commission, the call for congressional overhaul was vital, said former New Jersey governor Thomas H. Kean (R), the commission's co-chairman. Because intelligence committee membership affords lawmakers access to classified information, only intelligence committee members can develop the expertise to watch over operations properly, he said. But because the panels do not control the budget, intelligence agencies tend to dismiss them.

"The person who controls your budget is the person you listen to," Kean said.

Those people, the appropriators, do not seem to care much, he said. The intelligence budget is a small fraction of the nearly $500 billion overseen by the armed services committees and the appropriations panels' defense subcommittees. Kean said that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), an Armed Services Committee member, told the Sept. 11 commission that if his panel spends 10 minutes considering the intelligence budget, it has been a good year.

"We think this is extremely crucial," Kean said of a reorganization shifting budget authority to the intelligence committees. But, he added, there are "a lot of old bulls in both parties who just don't want to do it."

In 2004, the Senate tried to reach a compromise on the issue, proposing to create intelligence subcommittees under the House and Senate appropriations committees. The appropriators would maintain most of their power, but at least distinct panels would have to watch over intelligence spending.

The idea went nowhere in the House. To make it work, total spending on intelligence would have to be declassified, another commission recommendation that Congress has rejected. Besides, Young said, an intelligence subcommittee effectively exists in the form of the Appropriations defense subcommittee chairman and ranking member, who have taken serious interest in intelligence spending.

Democratic aides yesterday chose to talk up what they will do in the opening hours of the 110th Congress. Plans are not complete, but the incoming Democratic majority is likely to expand efforts to stop the proliferation of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons; ensure the interoperability of communications equipment so first responders can communicate more effectively; develop a comprehensive screening system for air cargo; and establish a civil-liberties board to protect the public against intelligence agencies expanding their reach.

--as I told Chad you won't see squat on immigration--ssn-ect either from Dems--just blah blah blah on what they are going to fix with no intent or idea--except probably minimum wage with is high-light and directly effects most their troops.
 

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So now im back up to three and if smurph will take back calling me Bush jr i can get up to 4. He won't tho he has to much pride. He is the left wing version of DTB.
That's very clever, Wayne ....er, I mean Sponge.

Since it means so much to you, I'll take back the Bush Jr comparison. It was never meant to be anything more than showing a similarity in popularity. It was a total coincidence that you ranked the same as Dubya.
 

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Cause I said you try to get along with everyone. I guess thats no reason to get mad. Anyway, I hope your wrong on the under cause if its a shootout I don't think McNair can keep up with Palmer. But I don't know how it can be a shoot out with the Ravens defense. How do you run against those guys?

My thought is we gotta go over the top. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see beating them with the run with their linebackers. Oh well its off too McCormick and Scmicks for a few pre-game lubricants. Farewell all. And I hope you are a loser tonight Jack.

Eddie
 

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Yeah, I know you don't do anything rash. I'm not worried about you and the Phoenix market. That's a very nice gesture of you with those tennants, by the way.

i rent a house with the intent of selling it to the tenants....so far i'm 2 for 3. the tenants know if they take care of the house i will bend over backwards to help them.i guess i can be called a loyalist...
 

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AR:

Here's a link to the local weather radar. I hope this works. As I look out my window at 5:05, it looks like 100% chance of rain. The flag is gently blowing in downtown Cincinnati.

The weather dude said bring your rain gear to the game tonight. I hope this link helps.

Eddie

http://www.wlwt.com/wxmap/1472400/detail.html


thanks for the link eddie....boy love those yellow colors...

so you like mccormick & scmicks ?

i will buy you a few at m & s's in phoenix if you are ever in my neck of the woods again....provided that you contact me this time.
 

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Wayne:

Ya know, it never fails. Here I am getting ready to get hammered, sloshed and soaked watching the Bengals hopefully beat the Ravens on national TV and what do you do???? At 5: f'ing 13 as I'm taking off my suit in the office with the shades pulled and slipping into by very casual, smart, black and orange rain gear getting ready to go and have a nice evening at the ball game, you go ahead and post one of your foot long nonsensical posts putting me in a bad mood. It never fails.

Will you take a vacation or something. You now have placed me in league with Louis Farakahn or some such BS. How did you not get a job in the Bush Administration?

Eddie
 

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Actually, AR, its the newest restaurant in downtown Cincinnati right on Fountain Square. Just opened a few weeks ago. I'm meeting our group there before heading over to PBS.

Not having dinner just beers. Will probably regret that decision but the place will be too crowded.

Eddie
 
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