SKINS FINALLY HAVE THEIR QB !!!
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Read that the Skins were hot & heavy after the Rams pick, but guess the price was too steep. Think it's a great trade for the Skins & a bad one for Phil because they traded within their division somebody who can do damage to their team....twice a year. And sorry Dave, but Colt is a non-factor & will not amount to even a decent backup QB.
C.Brennan is good as gone....
If he turns out to be a Star I'd be very shocked... I doubt he'll ever start a nfl game @ QB...I wish him the best , but clearly the burgundy and gold
Are not his Colors....HAIL!!
If he turns out to be a Star I'd be very shocked... I doubt he'll ever start a nfl game @ QB...I wish him the best , but clearly the burgundy and gold
Are not his Colors....HAIL!!
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McNabb strong-arms his way to D.C.
McNabb strong-arms his way to D.C.
McNabb strong-arms his way to D.C.
By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports 8 hours, 14 minutes ago
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Donovan McNabb(notes) stood his ground against the Philadelphia Eagles for the second straight year. Now, the question is whether he?ll get his revenge.
After being told last month that the Eagles would not deal him to NFC East-rival Washington, McNabb essentially forced Philadelphia?s hand by refusing to talk with any of the other teams that had expressed interest in recent weeks. In the process, McNabb can now take out his simmering anger on the Eagles? front office that essentially forced him out of a city where he had played his entire career.
?Frankly, I?m a little shocked,? a source close to McNabb said. ?I never thought [the Eagles would] do this. Never. But, yeah, this is the same thing that happened last year.?
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Donovan McNabb, left, and teammate quarterback Kevin Kolb, participate in drills during 2009 practice.
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That?s a reference to when McNabb leveraged the Eagles to give him a ?financial apology? after he had been benched in Week 12 of the 2008 season during a blowout loss to Baltimore. This time, McNabb won a stare-down with Eagles president Joe Banner and right-hand man Howie Roseman.
A stare-down that could come back to haunt the Eagles if they?re not right about new starter Kevin Kolb(notes), who is going into his fourth season but remains largely untested. If Kolb fails and McNabb, who is going to play in a similar system under strong offensive head coach Mike Shanahan, makes the Redskins a consistent contender over the next three to four years, the results could undermine what has been one of the league?s most consistent front offices.
McNabb, who is in the final year of his deal, made this happen by making it clear he wasn?t going anywhere else but Washington. When the Buffalo Bills expressed interest ? and even were willing to give McNabb a contract extension ? he passed on the offer. When the Oakland Raiders sniffed around and showed willingness to trade for the quarterback without an extension, McNabb indicated to the Eagles through his associates that he?d retire.
?He has plenty of money,? the source close to McNabb said. ?He?s not doing anything he doesn?t want to do.?
For the past two weeks, the Eagles had hoped McNabb?s resolve would thaw. He refused to budge, even telling the Eagles he?d be glad to return to the team even though he knew full well Philadelphia wanted no part of the season-long distraction his presence would create. What the Eagles wanted more than anything was to clear the way for Kolb to start and, in the process, sign him to a contract extension at a more favorable price. Kolb also quietly has been forcing the issue by making it clear that if he?s not the starter by this season, he wouldn?t sign an extension. Kolb?s contract is set to expire at the end of this season, meaning the Eagles would have had to put a high tender on him after this season to keep him.
While the Eagles may have paved the way for a new Kolb deal, Banner and Roseman could be paving the road for their dismissal if this doesn?t work. This could be a tipping point in determining who really runs the Eagles. Coach Andy Reid called the shots on the roster, until most recently, when that power increasingly shifted to Banner, a clever contract negotiator who has become expert in locking up players to long-term deals and keeping the Eagles competitive.
Banner
The problem is that Banner?s semi-Moneyball techniques haven?t produced a championship. Neither has McNabb, but he has gotten the Eagles to five NFC championship games and one Super Bowl. Was that success more McNabb or Banner?
Reid believed it was McNabb and had voiced his desire for the Eagles to keep him, even if it cost them Kolb. ?Andy thinks Kolb is going to be really good, maybe great. But he knows Donovan is great and probably will be for three or four years,? said a source close to Reid.
Now teamed with Shanahan, a brilliant playcaller, McNabb could exact some serious payback from the Eagles. It would be sweet justice for McNabb, who never has felt respected in Philadelphia.
?Not from Day 1,? the source close to the quarterback said, referring to when Eagles fans booed when McNabb was selected instead of Ricky Williams(notes) in 1998. ?Never, and after a while you get tired of it. He?s put up with this for his whole career. They never gave him real weapons until now with those guys [wide receivers Jeremy Maclin(notes) and DeSean Jackson(notes)]. He took them to how many title games with a bunch of stiffs at [wide] receiver??
McNabb did have Terrell Owens(notes) in 2004, but that turned into a well-documented disaster the following season.
While the Redskins don?t feature a bunch of stars at wide receiver or running back and are rebuilding their offensive line, they have the No. 4 overall draft pick. They also have Shanahan.
Not a bad situation if you?re McNabb.
Jason Cole is a national NFL writer for Yahoo! Sports. Send Jason a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.
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McNabb strong-arms his way to D.C.
McNabb strong-arms his way to D.C.
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Donovan McNabb(notes) stood his ground against the Philadelphia Eagles for the second straight year. Now, the question is whether he?ll get his revenge.
After being told last month that the Eagles would not deal him to NFC East-rival Washington, McNabb essentially forced Philadelphia?s hand by refusing to talk with any of the other teams that had expressed interest in recent weeks. In the process, McNabb can now take out his simmering anger on the Eagles? front office that essentially forced him out of a city where he had played his entire career.
?Frankly, I?m a little shocked,? a source close to McNabb said. ?I never thought [the Eagles would] do this. Never. But, yeah, this is the same thing that happened last year.?
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Donovan McNabb, left, and teammate quarterback Kevin Kolb, participate in drills during 2009 practice.(AP Photo/Btadley C Bower)
That?s a reference to when McNabb leveraged the Eagles to give him a ?financial apology? after he had been benched in Week 12 of the 2008 season during a blowout loss to Baltimore. This time, McNabb won a stare-down with Eagles president Joe Banner and right-hand man Howie Roseman.
A stare-down that could come back to haunt the Eagles if they?re not right about new starter Kevin Kolb(notes), who is going into his fourth season but remains largely untested. If Kolb fails and McNabb, who is going to play in a similar system under strong offensive head coach Mike Shanahan, makes the Redskins a consistent contender over the next three to four years, the results could undermine what has been one of the league?s most consistent front offices.
McNabb, who is in the final year of his deal, made this happen by making it clear he wasn?t going anywhere else but Washington. When the Buffalo Bills expressed interest ? and even were willing to give McNabb a contract extension ? he passed on the offer. When the Oakland Raiders sniffed around and showed willingness to trade for the quarterback without an extension, McNabb indicated to the Eagles through his associates that he?d retire.
?He has plenty of money,? the source close to McNabb said. ?He?s not doing anything he doesn?t want to do.?
For the past two weeks, the Eagles had hoped McNabb?s resolve would thaw. He refused to budge, even telling the Eagles he?d be glad to return to the team even though he knew full well Philadelphia wanted no part of the season-long distraction his presence would create. What the Eagles wanted more than anything was to clear the way for Kolb to start and, in the process, sign him to a contract extension at a more favorable price. Kolb also quietly has been forcing the issue by making it clear that if he?s not the starter by this season, he wouldn?t sign an extension. Kolb?s contract is set to expire at the end of this season, meaning the Eagles would have had to put a high tender on him after this season to keep him.
While the Eagles may have paved the way for a new Kolb deal, Banner and Roseman could be paving the road for their dismissal if this doesn?t work. This could be a tipping point in determining who really runs the Eagles. Coach Andy Reid called the shots on the roster, until most recently, when that power increasingly shifted to Banner, a clever contract negotiator who has become expert in locking up players to long-term deals and keeping the Eagles competitive.
The problem is that Banner?s semi-Moneyball techniques haven?t produced a championship. Neither has McNabb, but he has gotten the Eagles to five NFC championship games and one Super Bowl. Was that success more McNabb or Banner?
Reid believed it was McNabb and had voiced his desire for the Eagles to keep him, even if it cost them Kolb. ?Andy thinks Kolb is going to be really good, maybe great. But he knows Donovan is great and probably will be for three or four years,? said a source close to Reid.
Now teamed with Shanahan, a brilliant playcaller, McNabb could exact some serious payback from the Eagles. It would be sweet justice for McNabb, who never has felt respected in Philadelphia.
?Not from Day 1,? the source close to the quarterback said, referring to when Eagles fans booed when McNabb was selected instead of Ricky Williams(notes) in 1998. ?Never, and after a while you get tired of it. He?s put up with this for his whole career. They never gave him real weapons until now with those guys [wide receivers Jeremy Maclin(notes) and DeSean Jackson(notes)]. He took them to how many title games with a bunch of stiffs at [wide] receiver??
McNabb did have Terrell Owens(notes) in 2004, but that turned into a well-documented disaster the following season.
While the Redskins don?t feature a bunch of stars at wide receiver or running back and are rebuilding their offensive line, they have the No. 4 overall draft pick. They also have Shanahan.
Not a bad situation if you?re McNabb.
Jason Cole is a national NFL writer for Yahoo! Sports. Send Jason a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.
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Eagles trade 6-time Pro Bowl QB McNabb to Redskins
2 hours, 53 minutes ago
By ROB MAADDI AP Sports Writer
PHILADELPHIA(AP)?Of all the possible landing spots for Donovan McNabb(notes), the Washington Redskins seemed like a longshot.
The Philadelphia Eagles couldn?t possibly trade McNabb to a division rival, right? Wrong.
No. 5 will wear burgundy and gold next season.
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Donovan McNabb battles the Redskins.
(AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)
In a surprise move Sunday night, the Eagles sent McNabb to the Redskins for a second-round pick (37th overall) in this month?s NFL draft and either a third- or fourth-round pick next year.
?You can?t say that we didn?t think about that,? Eagles coach Andy Reid said of having to face McNabb twice a year. ?We did, but this was a decision that we thought was best for Donovan and, at the same time, the compensation was right for us. We certainly took into consideration Donovan?s feelings here, too.?
The trade is the boldest move to date for new Redskins coach Mike Shanahan and could spell the end in Washington for Jason Campbell(notes), the starter for 3 1/2 seasons. Shanahan already has signed free-agent Rex Grossman(notes) as a backup and has been actively scouting the top quarterbacks available in the draft. The Redskins have the No. 4 overall pick.
?I?m really excited about my future with the Washington Redskins,? McNabb said in a statement. ?I?m eager to work with Coach Shanahan. He?s been a very successful coach with a couple of Super Bowl victories on his resume. While it?s been my goal to win a Super Bowl in Philadelphia, we came up short. I enjoyed my 11 years here and we shared a lot more good times than bad.?
Shanahan can only hope the 33-year-old McNabb works out as well as the last big-time Washington-Philadelphia quarterback deal. The Eagles in 1964 sent Sonny Jurgensen to the Redskins, where he played 11 seasons until he was 40 and became a Hall of Famer.
?These people never learn,? Jurgensen told the Redskins? Web site when informed of the trade Sunday night.
McNabb is entering the final year of a contract and it?s unknown whether he is negotiating an extension with the Redskins. Reid said the possibility McNabb could refuse to go to another team or decline to extend his contract was not a factor.
?Donovan would?ve played anywhere because that?s the kind of person he is,? Reid said. ?He?s happy to be there.?
McNabb, a six-time Pro Bowler, led the Eagles to five NFC championship games and one Super Bowl in 11 seasons in Philadelphia. His failure to lead the team to its first NFL championship since 1960, plus the emergence of Kevin Kolb(notes), made him expendable.
McNabb, the No. 2 overall pick in the 1999 draft, leaves as the franchise leader in yards passing (32,873), completions (2,801), attempts (4,746), completion percentage (59.0) and touchdown passes (216). He also rushed for 3,249 yards and 28 TDs.
Kolb, who has started two games in three seasons, becomes the starter. Michael Vick(notes) is the backup. Both have one year remaining on their contracts.
?This was a very tough decision,? Reid said. ?Donovan McNabb represented everything a football player could be during his 11 seasons in Philadelphia. He carried this organization to new heights and set a high standard of excellence both on and off the field. We thank him for everything he did for this football team and for this city.?
McNabb threw for 3,553 yards and 22 touchdowns with 10 interceptions in 14 games last season, leading the Eagles to the playoffs. His passer rating of 92.9 was the third-highest in his career.
But McNabb played poorly in a loss to Dallas in Week 17 that cost Philadelphia a division title and a first-round bye. He also struggled in a loss to the Cowboys the following week in a wild-card game.
Reid said immediately after the season that McNabb would return in 2010. Reid repeated that several times throughout the offseason until acknowledging last month the team was listening to offers for all three of its QBs.
McNabb then issued a statement saying he wished to remain with the Eagles, but understood the situation and hoped for a quick resolution.
?Donovan is the ultimate professional,? Eagles president Joe Banner said. ?He has an incredible work ethic and has been an integral part of our success. Over the years, Donovan has always carried himself with a great deal of dignity. He?s an excellent role model for young men and women from across the region. In my mind, he?ll always be remembered as one of the greatest Eagles of all time.?
The Redskins waited until late in the evening to announce the trade and did not make Shanahan available for comment.
?Donovan is an accomplished quarterback who has been a proven winner in the National Football League,? the coach said in a statement released by the team. ?I have long admired his competitiveness and feel he will be an outstanding addition to the Redskins and our community. He knows our division and the roadmap to success in the NFC East.?
The Eagles were 92-49-1 in regular-season games that McNabb started and 9-7 in the playoffs.
McNabb overcame numerous injuries and controversies throughout his career, including criticism from conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh and a feud with former teammate Terrell Owens(notes).
The former Syracuse star sustained injuries that ended his regular season in November in 2002, 2005 and 2006. McNabb missed a total of 24 games because of injuries. The Eagles were 14-10 in those games.
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AP Sports Writer Joseph White in Washington contributed to this report.
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By ROB MAADDI AP Sports Writer
PHILADELPHIA(AP)?Of all the possible landing spots for Donovan McNabb(notes), the Washington Redskins seemed like a longshot.
The Philadelphia Eagles couldn?t possibly trade McNabb to a division rival, right? Wrong.
No. 5 will wear burgundy and gold next season.
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(AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)
In a surprise move Sunday night, the Eagles sent McNabb to the Redskins for a second-round pick (37th overall) in this month?s NFL draft and either a third- or fourth-round pick next year.
?You can?t say that we didn?t think about that,? Eagles coach Andy Reid said of having to face McNabb twice a year. ?We did, but this was a decision that we thought was best for Donovan and, at the same time, the compensation was right for us. We certainly took into consideration Donovan?s feelings here, too.?
The trade is the boldest move to date for new Redskins coach Mike Shanahan and could spell the end in Washington for Jason Campbell(notes), the starter for 3 1/2 seasons. Shanahan already has signed free-agent Rex Grossman(notes) as a backup and has been actively scouting the top quarterbacks available in the draft. The Redskins have the No. 4 overall pick.
?I?m really excited about my future with the Washington Redskins,? McNabb said in a statement. ?I?m eager to work with Coach Shanahan. He?s been a very successful coach with a couple of Super Bowl victories on his resume. While it?s been my goal to win a Super Bowl in Philadelphia, we came up short. I enjoyed my 11 years here and we shared a lot more good times than bad.?
Shanahan can only hope the 33-year-old McNabb works out as well as the last big-time Washington-Philadelphia quarterback deal. The Eagles in 1964 sent Sonny Jurgensen to the Redskins, where he played 11 seasons until he was 40 and became a Hall of Famer.
?These people never learn,? Jurgensen told the Redskins? Web site when informed of the trade Sunday night.
McNabb is entering the final year of a contract and it?s unknown whether he is negotiating an extension with the Redskins. Reid said the possibility McNabb could refuse to go to another team or decline to extend his contract was not a factor.
?Donovan would?ve played anywhere because that?s the kind of person he is,? Reid said. ?He?s happy to be there.?
McNabb, a six-time Pro Bowler, led the Eagles to five NFC championship games and one Super Bowl in 11 seasons in Philadelphia. His failure to lead the team to its first NFL championship since 1960, plus the emergence of Kevin Kolb(notes), made him expendable.
McNabb, the No. 2 overall pick in the 1999 draft, leaves as the franchise leader in yards passing (32,873), completions (2,801), attempts (4,746), completion percentage (59.0) and touchdown passes (216). He also rushed for 3,249 yards and 28 TDs.
Kolb, who has started two games in three seasons, becomes the starter. Michael Vick(notes) is the backup. Both have one year remaining on their contracts.
?This was a very tough decision,? Reid said. ?Donovan McNabb represented everything a football player could be during his 11 seasons in Philadelphia. He carried this organization to new heights and set a high standard of excellence both on and off the field. We thank him for everything he did for this football team and for this city.?
McNabb threw for 3,553 yards and 22 touchdowns with 10 interceptions in 14 games last season, leading the Eagles to the playoffs. His passer rating of 92.9 was the third-highest in his career.
But McNabb played poorly in a loss to Dallas in Week 17 that cost Philadelphia a division title and a first-round bye. He also struggled in a loss to the Cowboys the following week in a wild-card game.
Reid said immediately after the season that McNabb would return in 2010. Reid repeated that several times throughout the offseason until acknowledging last month the team was listening to offers for all three of its QBs.
McNabb then issued a statement saying he wished to remain with the Eagles, but understood the situation and hoped for a quick resolution.
?Donovan is the ultimate professional,? Eagles president Joe Banner said. ?He has an incredible work ethic and has been an integral part of our success. Over the years, Donovan has always carried himself with a great deal of dignity. He?s an excellent role model for young men and women from across the region. In my mind, he?ll always be remembered as one of the greatest Eagles of all time.?
The Redskins waited until late in the evening to announce the trade and did not make Shanahan available for comment.
?Donovan is an accomplished quarterback who has been a proven winner in the National Football League,? the coach said in a statement released by the team. ?I have long admired his competitiveness and feel he will be an outstanding addition to the Redskins and our community. He knows our division and the roadmap to success in the NFC East.?
The Eagles were 92-49-1 in regular-season games that McNabb started and 9-7 in the playoffs.
McNabb overcame numerous injuries and controversies throughout his career, including criticism from conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh and a feud with former teammate Terrell Owens(notes).
The former Syracuse star sustained injuries that ended his regular season in November in 2002, 2005 and 2006. McNabb missed a total of 24 games because of injuries. The Eagles were 14-10 in those games.
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This is a great move.....
1. You have a QB that will play at least one good year because of the change of pace and being pissed the Eagles felt he had so little left they went in the division.
2. He knows the division and the defenses so we are much better then what we had a year ago.
3. You sign him to a few years and draft a project like LeFevour (who a lot of folks are very high on) and what better teach for him than an almost HOF QB.
I am not the biggest fan of McNabb but considering the overhyped options at QB coming in the draft I think this is the best move the skins could have made.
Could have easily lived without going after Willie Parker but if you see what Allen has brought to the skins these guys are all getting bonus contracts not money upfront and THAT IS HUGE.
I am pretty sure this all but seals up Okung at #4, and I really wanted Berry but I'll take the upgrade for the teams sake!
Question... Does this mean the skins keep Campbell and see if a guy like McNabb can teach him or is he being shipped.
Cheers
Irish
1. You have a QB that will play at least one good year because of the change of pace and being pissed the Eagles felt he had so little left they went in the division.
2. He knows the division and the defenses so we are much better then what we had a year ago.
3. You sign him to a few years and draft a project like LeFevour (who a lot of folks are very high on) and what better teach for him than an almost HOF QB.
I am not the biggest fan of McNabb but considering the overhyped options at QB coming in the draft I think this is the best move the skins could have made.
Could have easily lived without going after Willie Parker but if you see what Allen has brought to the skins these guys are all getting bonus contracts not money upfront and THAT IS HUGE.
I am pretty sure this all but seals up Okung at #4, and I really wanted Berry but I'll take the upgrade for the teams sake!
Question... Does this mean the skins keep Campbell and see if a guy like McNabb can teach him or is he being shipped.
Cheers
Irish
I'm happy. Didn't think any of the QBs in this draft were worth taking and we all saw what Shanahan accomplished with a veteran talented QB in Denver. Watch out Cowgirls! :s6: :s6: :s6:
Maybe the change will spark McNabb to lose his beer belly and start taking football seriously again:shrug:
Washington Targeting Flozell....
Washington Targeting Flozell....
Definitely makes sense....
Flozell Adams, who was due a reported $7.5 millon this coming season before being cut by the Cowboys, makes some sense as another intra-division NFC East move to the Redskins. Washington GM Bruce Allen said [Tuesday] on the radio that he had been in contact with Adams' agent, Jordan Woy, and Woy confirmed he has talked with Allen as well as several clubs regarding the veteran left tackle. No visits have been lined up nor is anything apparently imminent. Sometimes these things take shape after the draft but maybe the Redskins' need for a left tackle makes them come after Adams sooner rather than later.
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Washington Targeting Flozell....
Definitely makes sense....
Flozell Adams, who was due a reported $7.5 millon this coming season before being cut by the Cowboys, makes some sense as another intra-division NFC East move to the Redskins. Washington GM Bruce Allen said [Tuesday] on the radio that he had been in contact with Adams' agent, Jordan Woy, and Woy confirmed he has talked with Allen as well as several clubs regarding the veteran left tackle. No visits have been lined up nor is anything apparently imminent. Sometimes these things take shape after the draft but maybe the Redskins' need for a left tackle makes them come after Adams sooner rather than later.
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