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I really need to win our bet, AR. Still reeling from the damn Cardinals choke that put me out of the survivor pool.

That article was very strange. Unfortunately, all it really proved was that we have at least a few really stupid people willing to speak to British journalists.

Mrs Clinton might be the frontrunner in the polls, but almost everywhere we went people questioned her candidacy. Many stated bluntly that they did not want a woman in charge. "It's a man's world," said Hugh Laflin, 62, a Kansas truck driver. "Would a Middle East sheikh talk to a lady president?"

A Vietnam veteran in Arizona and a Florida gun-shop owner were among those who made crude jokes about America "going to war every 30 days" under a female president. We never brought up Bill Clinton's sexual dalliances, but many ordinary Americans did. "She couldn't keep her own home together, so how can we trust her to manage America?" asked Micki Martinson, a housewife in Somerset, Pennsylvania.
 

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murph...

don't worry i'll take a rain check on the bet if need be....where i come from we never squeeze a friend about money...we are friends..aren't we ? :mj07: :mj07:
 

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murph...

don't worry i'll take a rain check on the bet if need be....where i come from we never squeeze a friend about money...we are friends..aren't we ? :mj07: :mj07:

I should be fine by next election, so I should be able to cover any dinner losses that I may or may not incur before that time.

I still like my chances. Flyover voters are not going to rush to the polls for Guili or Romney. ...Perhaps the safest bet this election would be on the UNDER.;)
 

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Flyover voters are not going to rush to the polls for Guili or Romney. ...Perhaps the safest bet this election would be on the UNDER.;)

disagree....i think the dislike of hillary is so high that the "fly overs" will vote for anybody but hillary. but i do think if paul runs as a 3rd party, hillary has a chance....similar to what happened in 96...
 

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disagree....i think the dislike of hillary is so high that the "fly overs" will vote for anybody but hillary. but i do think if paul runs as a 3rd party, hillary has a chance....similar to what happened in 96...

Are you saying you think Dole would've beaten Clinton had Perot not run? 1992 would be a better example, although 2000 would be the best example, where the election was clearly swung by the third-party candidate.

Although that's assuming a large majority of the people who vote for Paul would be usual republican voters. I don't think that would be the case. Paul -- at least in the limited exposure I've seen -- has a lot of support from usually-reliable young Democrat voters.
 

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Are you saying you think Dole would've beaten Clinton had Perot not run? 1992 would be a better example, although 2000 would be the best example, where the election was clearly swung by the third-party candidate.

Although that's assuming a large majority of the people who vote for Paul would be usual republican voters. I don't think that would be the case. Paul -- at least in the limited exposure I've seen -- has a lot of support from usually-reliable young Democrat voters.

sorry bj...i meant 92...

hope you're right about dems voting for paul if he decides to run as an indy..
 

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"hope you're right about dems voting for paul if he decides to run as an indy.."

just curious about this statement. Is this opinion based on the fact that you want the magic underwear guy or the corrupt, 911 drag queen over any dem that might be nominated?

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Democrat Hillary Clinton would lose to all major Republican White House candidates, according to a hypothetical election matchup poll Monday, reversing her months of dominance over potential 2008 challengers.
The Zogby International poll was the latest sign that withering attacks on the former first lady were chipping away at her opinion poll leads just 38 days before the Iowa caucuses, the first party nominating contests.

In the new survey, Clinton trailed Senator John McCain 42 percent to 38 percent, former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani by 43 percent to 40 percent and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney by 43 percent to 40 percent.

She also lagged behind former Arkansas Republican governor Mike Huckabee by 44 to 39 percent, and former Senator Fred Thompson by 44 to 40 percent in hypothetical general election matchups.

Clinton's top Democratic challengers Barack Obama and John Edwards however would still beat their hypothetical Republican rivals in potential 2008 contests.

In July, Clinton held a five point lead in the same poll over Giuliani, edged out McCain by two points and had a clear lead over other contenders.

A Rasmussen poll last week had Clinton also falling behind Giuliani in a hypothetical matchup of the November 2008 general election, and narrowly beaten by McCain.

An average of all previous similar polls gives Clinton a narrow lead over possible Republican candidates.

While the US political system of awarding delegates by state in a general election would not necessarily translate into a Clinton election defeat on the basis of the poll, it may provide more fodder for her opponents.

Clinton has repeatedly portrayed herself as the most electable Democratic candidate who could stand up to Republican assaults in a general election.

But Obama and Edwards are increasingly starting to challenge that claim, as the race heats up, as other polls suggest that Clinton's clear lead in the Democratic White House race may be narrowing.

The Zogby poll was conducted online among 9,150 likely voters across the United States between November 21 and 26, and carried a margin of error of plus or minus 1 percentage point.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=071126191523.oorozvs5&show_article=1
 

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I personally would prefer either Edwards or Obama to Hillary, but you gays, errr, I mean guys, are really going to back the corrupt, 3 time marriage crossdresser? Have you done any research into his record? :142smilie

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This corrupt cross dressing philandering scumbag is the new face of the neocons. I love it. You know, the party of family values. And if it doesn't work with the first family, well, just start another. And if it doesn't work out with the next one, well, you know, just go to the next cousin and get married again.

Prior to September 11, Giuliani reportedly never referred to the 1993 bombing publicly except for a single metaphorical reference in his inaugural address not referring to terrorism.[1] Giuliani also reportedly never discussed the threat of terrorism with the U.S. Attorney in his district, and had to ask Henry Kissinger for background information on Osama Bin Laden after the September 11th attacks[1] despite the fact that the Bin Laden had previously declared a Fatwa against the United States[2], the Clinton administration had established a section of the CIA devoted exclusively to hunting Bin Laden,[3] and despite Clinton's military attacks on Al Qaeda.[4]

Jerome Hauer, Giuliani's emergency management chief between 1996 and 2000, later said that "We never talked about Islamic terrorism. We talked about chemical terrorism, biological terrorism. We did talk about car bombs every now and then. [But] I don't think there was much interest on his part [in Islam terrorism]."[5]

If any of you "neocon" nitwits think this guy is your saviour, well, you are stupid enough to vote for George Bush's son, George "I am a coke snorting, DUI convicted, AWOL, chickenhawk, weak dollar deficit loving idiot" Bush JR. Oh, wait, sorry, you did. Keep fighting the good fight.
 

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"On January 20, 2009, you may very well be welcoming to the White House Rudy Giuliani and his lovely wife, whoever that may be at the time. ... Giuliani's first wife was his cousin. I'm not making that up. I think that's a very cheap way to go after the Southern vote." ?Bill Maher

On Rudy Giuliani saying during a debate that he couldn?t possibly describe the mistakes he's made in 30 seconds. "Here's a hint. It starts with annulling my first marriage to my second cousin and it ends with my kids from my second marriage supporting Barack Obama because they hate my third wife." --Jon Stewart

good luck with this douche who won't carry the christian crazies...actually, I guess DieBold will deliver to the minority another election so its a lock. What are the current odds at Oly?
 
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I personally would prefer either Edwards or Obama to Hillary, but you gays, errr, I mean guys, are really going to back the corrupt, 3 time marriage crossdresser? Have you done any research into his record?

jw....

besides them being liberal dems, tell me why you like edwards & obama ?

also if you don't mind can you tell me when giuliani was charged & convicted of corruption ?

thanks
 
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