worm44 said:
worm...since its your motto, how successful are you at gambling?
are you up or down? i say down.......
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worm...since its your motto, how successful are you at gambling?
are you up or down? i say down.......
you see tupac....worm is a classic example of a gambler who is in denial....
dont know how much or how long worm been betting, but if he never would of gambled, he would have more money in the bank than he does now.......thats the bottom line....
dont know how much or how long worm been betting, but if he never would of gambled, he would have more money in the bank than he does now.......thats the bottom line....
Ninja--I am sure a person with your attitude has gambled himself from a big trailer park to a small one but that does not mean everyone is a loser like you...what a stupid statement....and you are right about one thing you dont know the WORm and you will never be a winner like him and the fellow Mjers like him....sour punk:thefinger
The only real winners are the BOOKIES, as much as people say they win on here, they dont. They might have a few good weeks maybe a month, but if they truly track their betting, they will see that they just end up breaking even or losing. Gambling is an addiction just like smoking, drinking or whatever others might be addicted to. If you really are serious about quitting, DO SO, it will be the best thing you ever do. You are never going to get rich betting and as you already experienced it will just cause you hardache. I, myself, have drastically cut down on my betting for the time but just can not seem to quit altogether, brings us back to the addiction. Best of luck to you!
highs and lows but the book is the guaranteed winner if his pockets are deep enough. booked several years ago for my freinds. capped bets. i never had more than one losing weekend- unless i bet my winnings away.
worm....what's with all the insults? If you're in the 3-5 percent group of gamblers who actually wins in the long run, good for you.....the key words here is THE LONG RUN.........
its funny how people here criticise new posters who touts lock of year, goy's and so forth to protect new readers.....but when i post the reality of gambling for 97% of all bettors, i get called a sour punk....go figure........
its funny how people here criticise new posters who touts lock of year, goy's and so forth to protect new readers.....but when i post the reality of gambling for 97% of all bettors, i get called a sour punk....go figure........
worm-just seen your worm stats thread and your mnf thread...what the hell is a major play? if it wins, is it called a major win? worm-a play is a play and a win is a win....and a loss is a loss. your major play record means nothing since you dont post your units on the plays...how many units on your large"i mean large" play on green bay last night? its like a baseball record..you could have a winning % but you are in the red...your large "i mean large" play on green bay most likely wiped out any profits you had.........
long term gambling
long term gambling
just wanted to add something to this thread about gambling.
i live in a town of 35 thousand people with a countywide population of 100 thousand. i know or have known and bet with
3 different "locals" since 1995 and guess what----ain't NONE of
them gone out of business.
truth is--the book does win
i would "wager" that most posters on this board for the life of their betting career are minus $.
if anyone treats this as more than recreational as per boilermaker's post have some shingles loose
i cannot imagine Ninja's lament of losing "BIG" for 15 years.
i've been betting mostly football since 1995 and i know that i have lost "EXACTLY" $3007 AMERICAN!!
NOW THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT
long term gambling
just wanted to add something to this thread about gambling.
i live in a town of 35 thousand people with a countywide population of 100 thousand. i know or have known and bet with
3 different "locals" since 1995 and guess what----ain't NONE of
them gone out of business.
truth is--the book does win
i would "wager"
that most posters on this board for the life of their betting career are minus $.if anyone treats this as more than recreational as per boilermaker's post have some shingles loose
i cannot imagine Ninja's lament of losing "BIG" for 15 years.
i've been betting mostly football since 1995 and i know that i have lost "EXACTLY" $3007 AMERICAN!!
NOW THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT
sorry to hear that man. Everybody goes down this road sometime or another. Few years ago, the NBA killed me. I was better off picking NBA games out of a hat. I dont bet the NBA anymore..and rarely bet the NFL. I had to learn the hard way...and stick to what I know is best.
Perhaps this will be best for ya. Just remember man, you dont need action on a game to enjoy it. Be a fan again!
Good Luck To Ya
Perhaps this will be best for ya. Just remember man, you dont need action on a game to enjoy it. Be a fan again!
Good Luck To Ya
take a break and you will know when and if you want to come back.i allot myself a set figure each fall and once it is gone i get away from watching sports altogether.last year was the first i "sat it out" after some bad bets and bad beats in the nfl and i missed out on college and pro hoops.which traditionally has been my cash cows.i do quite a lot of middle playing,low risk-high return but it takes work hunting the numbers. a new angle i have tried this year is asking my locals who they need to win, they dont mind telling me and i add this to how i have the game capped,then decide to play or not. the books may not win all the time but they are making money and its not on just the vig.get on the same side and you will turn a profit.
I can't believe you guys are all convinced...
I can't believe you guys are all convinced...
...that you can't win money at this. Are you all really serious that you expect to lose? If you are, then you should know that you shouldn't be doing this...that's just the wrong attitude. You can't beat casino games like roulette or craps over the long run, because the odds are built right into the game. But you CAN win at sports, because it's your opinion against everyone else's. If you are sharper than the average person, you will win. It's that simple really. Lines are set (generally) to balance action. The house/casino has no control over the outcome of sporting events. Unlike table games, where math will dictate your long-term fortune (or lack thereof).
Now I am not going to claim that I have gotten rich at this, but I have made money. I've been betting the NFL since 1996, and last year was the first time I lost money for a season. And that was only -4 units. In all the other years I have won between 8 and 26 units for the season (98% of my bets are for the same 1 unit...the other 2% are for 1.5u). I'm currently up 11 units for this season, despite the fact it's been hellish for dog players, and I play a lot of dogs. And in 2001 I won both a $10,000US and a $5,000US online contest. So I'd say it's been pretty profitable, and I am not quitting anytime soon!!
Like I said, you need to learn how to manage your money and keep track of it. It is inevitable, no matter how good or how bad you are at this, you are going to go through prolonged streaks. You cannot let a losing streak kill you. They happen to everybody. You've got to keep thinking straight when it happens and stay in control.
You know, a monkey (or a coin flip) could pick 50% winners. You only have to pick over 52.38% and you're making money.
I figure out of 100 picks, with little knowledge of the sport:
There's nothing you can do about those last 40. They are going to happen. You can handicap night and day and they will still happen. Everyone seems to remember only the unlucky losses but believe me, you catch a lot of breaks too. After a while you just learn to accept those 40 and you don't get pissed off when they happen.
Anyways, the point is to work on those other 60. If you can turn 30 right / 30 wrong into 33 right / 27 wrong, you are breaking even, if you are betting the same amount on every game. But make it 37 right / 23 wrong and you're making good money. That's 57% when you factor in the 20/20 "luck" picks. If you work hard at this and learn from your mistakes you should be able to correct 7 bad picks out of 30.
If you pick 57%...and make 10 bets a week @ 1 unit/bet for the regular season...that's 170 bets...and a net profit of 9.7 units. Why isn't this attainable??
I can't believe you guys are all convinced...
...that you can't win money at this. Are you all really serious that you expect to lose? If you are, then you should know that you shouldn't be doing this...that's just the wrong attitude. You can't beat casino games like roulette or craps over the long run, because the odds are built right into the game. But you CAN win at sports, because it's your opinion against everyone else's. If you are sharper than the average person, you will win. It's that simple really. Lines are set (generally) to balance action. The house/casino has no control over the outcome of sporting events. Unlike table games, where math will dictate your long-term fortune (or lack thereof).
Now I am not going to claim that I have gotten rich at this, but I have made money. I've been betting the NFL since 1996, and last year was the first time I lost money for a season. And that was only -4 units. In all the other years I have won between 8 and 26 units for the season (98% of my bets are for the same 1 unit...the other 2% are for 1.5u). I'm currently up 11 units for this season, despite the fact it's been hellish for dog players, and I play a lot of dogs. And in 2001 I won both a $10,000US and a $5,000US online contest. So I'd say it's been pretty profitable, and I am not quitting anytime soon!!
Like I said, you need to learn how to manage your money and keep track of it. It is inevitable, no matter how good or how bad you are at this, you are going to go through prolonged streaks. You cannot let a losing streak kill you. They happen to everybody. You've got to keep thinking straight when it happens and stay in control.
You know, a monkey (or a coin flip) could pick 50% winners. You only have to pick over 52.38% and you're making money.
I figure out of 100 picks, with little knowledge of the sport:
- You will win 30 due to handicapping a game correctly;
- You will lose 30 due to handicapping a game incorrectly;
- You will win 20 games that you shouldn't have, due to luck/getting the bounces;
- You will lose 20 more for the same reason.
There's nothing you can do about those last 40. They are going to happen. You can handicap night and day and they will still happen. Everyone seems to remember only the unlucky losses but believe me, you catch a lot of breaks too. After a while you just learn to accept those 40 and you don't get pissed off when they happen.
Anyways, the point is to work on those other 60. If you can turn 30 right / 30 wrong into 33 right / 27 wrong, you are breaking even, if you are betting the same amount on every game. But make it 37 right / 23 wrong and you're making good money. That's 57% when you factor in the 20/20 "luck" picks. If you work hard at this and learn from your mistakes you should be able to correct 7 bad picks out of 30.
If you pick 57%...and make 10 bets a week @ 1 unit/bet for the regular season...that's 170 bets...and a net profit of 9.7 units. Why isn't this attainable??
gm....you made some good points but i dont think anyone here bets with the intention to lose......most of us just do...in the LONG RUN...... i repeat...in the LONG RUN!!!!!!!!!!!
in my case, money management is the thing that kills me most....
i bet nfl, ncaa football and basketball, nba, mlb..in other words, i'm a year round bettor...aka a bookmakers dream customer..
the more you bet, the more likely you will be in the red....
sure, i can turn a huge profit in baseball ( my most profitable sport ) but as football and basketball ( my 2 worse ) comes along, there goes my baseball profits and more. why do i bet these 2? cause i'm a degenerate with no money management skills. i need action..........
but overall, even though i lose year in and year out, i still manage to have zero balances on my credit cards and the house and car payments are being paid......but damn, if i had all the money i lost over the last 15 years and invested in the stock market the past few months...i'll be a millionaire.......
in my case, money management is the thing that kills me most....
i bet nfl, ncaa football and basketball, nba, mlb..in other words, i'm a year round bettor...aka a bookmakers dream customer..
the more you bet, the more likely you will be in the red....
sure, i can turn a huge profit in baseball ( my most profitable sport ) but as football and basketball ( my 2 worse ) comes along, there goes my baseball profits and more. why do i bet these 2? cause i'm a degenerate with no money management skills. i need action..........
but overall, even though i lose year in and year out, i still manage to have zero balances on my credit cards and the house and car payments are being paid......but damn, if i had all the money i lost over the last 15 years and invested in the stock market the past few months...i'll be a millionaire.......
Ninja said:
Oh so true, i can remember times when id be out with the g/f at a quiet dinner, and have to excuse myself saying i was going to the can just to go in there and call the scorephones to see if id won LOL......
.......crazy thing is i STILL do it....even have it programmed in my speeddial........ ......sorry you are leaving TUPAC, take care.....Here are two things that took me from losing almost weekly, to having not re-uped in almost 2 years, and taking money out almost every month........Master MONEY MGT and DISCIPLINE. Learn to master those two things, and you will be successful, and dont listen to the haters who say it CANT be done, b/c it can with those two things mastered.........not that im perfect, b/c I do go on losing streaks, but more winning than losing using those two keys.......good luck
Grizape said:
SO WRONG!:nono: For the first few years when i started wagering on sports, I did lose, $4950.00 total. I tracked my losses, then a few years after I wised up, changed my system, my methods, become more disciplined, ahering to strict Money Mgt, and have won back all ive lost and and won alot more. Dont say it cant be done, b/c it can and im proof it has......ive tracked ever wager ive ever made since day one (im an anal left-brain, what can I say, very analytical) and have gotten back into the black and been there for sometime now.......
Re: I can't believe you guys are all convinced...
Re: I can't believe you guys are all convinced...
AMEN!!
One other thing i might add, is specialize, or limit what you do. Take one conference, in one sport, learn it inside and out and only play things you feel strong about and have capped thru and thru. Dont bet just to have action, limit your plays, know what and why you are placing the wager, and you will win over the long run. when I get in losing streaks, I cut back on what I play, go back to system plays that typically hit high %'s, and strictly adhere to my Money MGT and always come out of them. It can be done, it just takes the right mindset, MM, and discipline........oh, and what he said about talking to a LOCAL, that is some KEY info I always do when looking at a side. For example, a few weeks ago when Auburn played LSU, my local was 29-0 on Auburn, and said he didnt have one LSU wager, I jumped ALL OVER LSU based on my capping, and this piece of info secured my pick, and look what happened......so little things like that can be valuable tools in handicapping and winning at this........
Re: I can't believe you guys are all convinced...
GM said:
AMEN!!
One other thing i might add, is specialize, or limit what you do. Take one conference, in one sport, learn it inside and out and only play things you feel strong about and have capped thru and thru. Dont bet just to have action, limit your plays, know what and why you are placing the wager, and you will win over the long run. when I get in losing streaks, I cut back on what I play, go back to system plays that typically hit high %'s, and strictly adhere to my Money MGT and always come out of them. It can be done, it just takes the right mindset, MM, and discipline........oh, and what he said about talking to a LOCAL, that is some KEY info I always do when looking at a side. For example, a few weeks ago when Auburn played LSU, my local was 29-0 on Auburn, and said he didnt have one LSU wager, I jumped ALL OVER LSU based on my capping, and this piece of info secured my pick, and look what happened......so little things like that can be valuable tools in handicapping and winning at this........
Thanks for all the great posts guys. The only way I will ever come back is when I pay off all of my debts, and that won't be for awhile. I was really out of control for a few weeks. I'd win a few big bets and then lose it all back plus more.
I also have this one thought that keeps playing back in my mind.
I was watching a Monday Night Football game, and talking to my girlfriend at the same time. She is an awesome girl and all I did was watch the game and pay no attention to her. I knew then something was wrong.
I also have this one thought that keeps playing back in my mind.
I was watching a Monday Night Football game, and talking to my girlfriend at the same time. She is an awesome girl and all I did was watch the game and pay no attention to her. I knew then something was wrong.
