Some help please...

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To anyone that knows me, I'm fairly new to gambling as I first started betting hockey this year and I spent most of my winter in the Penalty Box here at MJ's place stuffing Boston Bruin propaganda to anyone who would read it. Having said that, I've never bet on a soccer match. I do not understand the numbers from my on line account.

For example:

S. Korea 2.90
Tie 3.10
Poland 2.25

Using a $100 wager for example...

$100 on SK pays $190 plus original $100
$100 on TIE pays $210 plus original $100
$100 on Poland pays $125 plus original $100

I feel like a dope :confused: but either I have had too many cold ones tonight or I'm plain stupid. (I'd really like to believe I'm not stupid) How do I convert these numbers into hockey/baseball numbers like -135 or +160. You guys get what I'm saying, I hope.

Also, if I'm reading this particular line correctly, if I wager $100 on both S. Korea & Poland to win, either way I come out a winner. The only risk I take with this particular game is it can't end in a draw. Then I'm screwed. If S. Korea wins, I'm up $90 and if Poland wins, I'm up $25. A tie and I'm out $200...With gambling being a marathon and not a sprint, any day that's a winning day is a good one. Correct?

Any and all responses are appreciated.

Mugs
 

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just remember mugs......how many hockey ties are there (through regulation)? figure the O/U is normally 5 goals in hockey and 2.5 in soccer......which usually plays for tighter games since there are less goals........but good luck in whatever you do :D
 

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conversion is easy for dogs:

2.90 = +190, 3.10 = +210, etc....

below even money things are more complicated. for example

1.50 -> 100/0.5 = -200
1.80 -> 100/0.8 = -125
1.20 -> 100/0.2 = -500

here's a chart

-105 = 1.95 -185 = 1.54
-110 = 1.91 -190 = 1.53
-115 = 1.87 -195 = 1.51
-120 = 1.83 -200 = 1.50
-125 = 1.80 -210 = 1.48
-130 = 1.77 -220 = 1.45
-135 = 1.74 -230 = 1.43
-140 = 1.71 -240 = 1.42
-145 = 1.69 -250 = 1.40
-150 = 1.66 -260 = 1.38
-155 = 1.64 -270 = 1.37
-160 = 1.62 -280 = 1.36
-165 = 1.61 -300 = 1.33
-170 = 1.59 -325 = 1.31
-175 = 1.57 -350 = 1.29
-180 = 1.55

If S. Korea wins, I'm up $90 and if Poland wins, I'm up $25. A tie and I'm out $200...With gambling being a marathon and not a sprint, any day that's a winning day is a good one. Correct?
Don't ever do that :nono:
Ties are much more common than in hockey and it wouldn't work out.
 

Nick Douglas

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Mugs,

Playing against the tie is generally a bad move. In my opinion you should only make one play per game. Generally the best value is in playing the draw, but it depends. You have to figure out the right situation where a draw would be likely, though.

As one example, I think the opening game may be a great chance for a draw. France hasn't played a meaningful international game since the Euro 2000 final and Senegal has a hot young striker.
 

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Nick Douglas said:
Mugs,

Playing against the tie is generally a bad move. In my opinion you should only make one play per game. Generally the best value is in playing the draw, but it depends. You have to figure out the right situation where a draw would be likely, though.

As one example, I think the opening game may be a great chance for a draw. France hasn't played a meaningful international game since the Euro 2000 final and Senegal has a hot young striker.

The words of a wise man, indeed a DRAW IMHO is the best bet in the opening game between France and Senegal. Books and vegas are just loving the fact that many might bite on
France -278:nono:, as that would be a suckers bet.

Best value would be to place a tie, as this Senegal team can run and France does not have the legs to keep up with them. Also, Zidane might miss the opening game....

Good Luck
 
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