Steinbrenners heirs save millions in taxes

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FILE - This feb. 17, 2003, file photo shows New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner waving to fans in Tampa, Fla. Steinbrenner, who rebuilt the New York Yankees into a sports empire with a mix of bluster and big bucks that polarized fans all across America, died Tuesday, July 13, 2010, in Tampa, Fla. He had just celebrated his 80th birthday July 4. (AP Photo/Chris O'Meara, File)
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CHICAGO (AP) -- Born on the Fourth of July, George Steinbrenner left the world stage with a great sense of timing too.

By dying in 2010, the billionaire and long-time New York Yankees owner's wealth avoids the federal estate tax, likely saving his heirs enough money to field an entire team of Alex Rodriguezes.

Steinbrenner's death Tuesday came during an unplanned year-long gap in the estate tax, the first since it was enacted in 1916. Political wrangling has stalemated efforts in Congress to replace the tax that expired in 2009.

That deprives the government of billions of dollars in annual revenue but represents an unexpected bonanza for those who inherit wealth.

"If you're super-wealthy, it's a good year to die," said Jack Nuckolls, an attorney and estate planner with the accounting firm BDO Seidman. "It really is."

The death of the 80-year-old Steinbrenner, who had been in poor health for years, highlights a quirky tax situation that has drawn much scrutiny among the moneyed but little on Main Street. Only those with estates valued at more than $3.5 million had to pay under the old law.

Without knowing the exact details of Steinbrenner's holdings and estate plan, it's impossible to say how much money will be saved. But estate planners and tax experts say it's likely that the estate benefited hugely by the timing of his death.

A glance at some numbers suggests roughly how it may work.

Forbes magazine has estimated Steinbrenner's estate at $1.1 billion. The federal estate tax in 2009 was 45 percent, with the $3.5 million per-person exemption. If he had died last year, his estate could thus have faced federal taxes of almost $500 million, depending on how the estate was structured.

That doesn't mean his heirs permanently escape all taxes related to his assets. They will still have to ultimately pay a capital gains tax if and when assets are sold. And due to a change in tax law this year, the tax would be applied to the amount by which the assets have appreciated since Steinbrenner acquired them.

Even if the Steinbrenners sold the assets right away, the top capital gains tax rate is 15 percent. Worst-case scenario, depending on how much the assets appreciated after Steinbrenner acquired them: a $165 million tax bill.

That's a tax break of about $328 million. A-Rod's 2010 salary: $32 million.

The Steinbrenner family has not suggested any sale is planned.

"There are no succession issues, and the team will not be sold," Yankees president Randy Levine said.

The Steinbrenners therefore are expected to avoid what happened to the family of Chicago Cubs owner P.K. Wrigley after he died in 1977. The family was forced to sell the Cubs to the Tribune Co. four years later to pay the taxes on Wrigley's estate.

As Steinbrenner's Yankees transformed into Yankee Global Enterprises, which includes the cable TV operation YES Network and Legends Hospitality, estate planning issues for a transfer to his children were dealt with, according to a Yankees official who spoke on condition of anonymity because those details weren't released

Estate taxes can be reduced through certain planning measures -- such as gifts and asset sales to family members at discounted values. However, except for the unusual circumstances of 2010, they cannot be eliminated unless you give it all to charity.

Some wealthy families use trusts to lower estate taxes. But even transferring assets to family trusts wouldn't have significantly lessened Steinbrenner's federal tax liability unless he gave vast amounts of assets to relatives as gifts before he died. Those would have been subject to a large gift tax.

That's unlikely since very few people choose to pay a large tax amount sooner than necessary, according to Richard Behrendt, senior estate planner for Robert W. Baird & Co. and a former estate tax attorney for the Internal Revenue Service.

The estate tax is scheduled to return in 2011, with a top rate of 55 percent. The House passed a bill last year that would have extended the estate tax at the 2009 rates, but it stalled in the Senate. Many Republicans want to eliminate the federal estate tax altogether, while many Democrats want to extend it at the 2009 rates.

There had been talk on Capitol Hill of reinstating it retroactively, to the start of the year. But as the year progresses, lawmakers say that is increasingly unlikely.

"If Congress doesn't go retroactive, then he picked a great year to die," said Robert Steele, who heads of the trusts and estates department at the law firm of Wolf Haldenstein Adler Freeman & Herz in New York. "There will be possibly tremendous capital gains tax, but the capital gains rate is a lot lower than the estate tax rate would have been."

Ohlemacher reported from Washington. AP Sports Writer Ronald Blum also contributed to this report
 

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The estate tax is scheduled to return in 2011, with a top rate of 55 percent. The House passed a bill last year that would have extended the estate tax at the 2009 rates, but it stalled in the Senate. Many Republicans want to eliminate the federal estate tax altogether, while many Democrats want to extend it at the 2009 rates.

I hope the Dems get their way. I used to support the abolishment of the estate tax, but now am confident that '09 levels would work out far better for the country.
 
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Steinbrenners heirs save millions in taxes

Think of the jobs they will create!:00hour

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I hope the Dems get their way. I used to support the abolishment of the estate tax, but now am confident that '09 levels would work out far better for the country.

I could care less if it's dems or repubs but why if your parents already paid a hefty amount on taxes should you have to pay taxes on it as well? Now, if it's money that was never taxed(ie a 401k account) then I undertand getting the money taxed but I'm not sure they could track all of that.(I know they can but how much time, effort and most importantly money would it take)
 

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well,he earned the money....he took the chances...i don`t think had he failed the feds would have "bailed him out"...

seems like he created more jobs(in the private sector)in n.y. and the tampa area than this administration...

and you should check out steinbrenner`s philanthropic record....quite impressive....


http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...renner-loved-Tampa,-and-the-feeling-is-mutual

no doubt he had some hard bark on him...ut apparently,he was a generous soul...
 

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I could care less if it's dems or repubs but why if your parents already paid a hefty amount on taxes should you have to pay taxes on it as well? Now, if it's money that was never taxed(ie a 401k account) then I undertand getting the money taxed but I'm not sure they could track all of that.(I know they can but how much time, effort and most importantly money would it take)

I agree. I don't really understand how the government deserves ANOTHER piece of the same pie IF taxes have already been paid when earned.

If there is untaxed money, then by all means.

I loathe the argument that it doesn't matter because the heirs didn't do anything to DESERVE it. Can you tell me what our government did to deserve any of it for a second (or third or fourth) time, either?

I am all for taxes, but I prefer them to make sense.
 

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I could care less if it's dems or repubs but why if your parents already paid a hefty amount on taxes should you have to pay taxes on it as well? Now, if it's money that was never taxed(ie a 401k account) then I undertand getting the money taxed but I'm not sure they could track all of that.(I know they can but how much time, effort and most importantly money would it take)

simple answer...apparently now,"people are the property of the state"...
 

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btw...if the tax law had still been in place,theres an excellent chance that george`s heirs would have had to sell the team to meet the tax burden(which was stated in the article)...


how f-ed up is that?...
 
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I am all for taxes, but I prefer them to make sense.


Taxes need to be raised to pay for wars and Obama spending. It makes more sense to me to tax the super wealthy that the middle class. That said, a 55% estate tax with 1 million per person exemption is ludicrous.

IMO, the exemption needs to be a minimum of the '09 figure of 3.5 million.
 

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Taxes need to be raised to pay for wars and Obama spending. It makes more sense to me to tax the super wealthy that the middle class. That said, a 55% estate tax with 1 million per person exemption is ludicrous.

IMO, the exemption needs to be a minimum of the '09 figure of 3.5 million.

55 % is ridiculous...
 

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taxing money that already has been taxed seems very unamerican to me. F*** this country. NJ it is even worse. You can't even inherit any thing anymore. I sounds alot like obama sim package.

Seriously the Govt doesn't have enough money? Even local/state tax is out of control. Where does all this $$$ go? There are only so many 2 million dollars missiles we buy.


I agree. I don't really understand how the government deserves ANOTHER piece of the same pie IF taxes have already been paid when earned.

If there is untaxed money, then by all means.

I loathe the argument that it doesn't matter because the heirs didn't do anything to DESERVE it. Can you tell me what our government did to deserve any of it for a second (or third or fourth) time, either?

I am all for taxes, but I prefer them to make sense.
 
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See you in politics forum :sadwave:
 

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I say reduce spending vs raise taxes.

You can avoid a lot of these estate taxes by tax free gifts.

--A single person can gift $13,000 to any number of people-a married couple $26,000.
If you have 4 kids thats $100,000 out of your estate each year.

In Steinbrenners case he could have bought 40 million coverage for about 100000 a year at age 50. He would have paid 30 years got 3 million out of taxable situation and returned 40 million to children tax free.

Lots of tangents on this--you can gift to parents and inherit back tax free. If you have relatives you trust in other country gift them max--you never know they might buy property and give it to you later or stick in account diversifying currency for you.:SIB
 

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What? Even Hedge was under control.
What difference does it make?

It's not a punishment or anything, it's just more on topic here.

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Where did skulnik go anyway? Did someone hurt his feelings?
 

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The sad part is, some folks aren't aware of how they could possibly be a victim of the Death Tax ...

Just own a simple farm in the Midwest and you're in the cross-hairs. You might expect that your heirs will be able to keep the farm when you die. Not with the Death Tax hanging around. In far too many cases the farm is just worth too much. It has to be sold so that the family will have enough money to pay the Death Tax. Now that's the American dream, right?

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The sad part is, some folks aren't aware of how they could possibly be a victim of the Death Tax ...

Just own a simple farm in the Midwest and you're in the cross-hairs. You might expect that your heirs will be able to keep the farm when you die. Not with the Death Tax hanging around. In far too many cases the farm is just worth too much. It has to be sold so that the family will have enough money to pay the Death Tax. Now that's the American dream, right?

:facepalm:

How much is the small farm worth?
 
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