Stepping on my stupid pride................

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Well...........I have look around and this is clearly the best hockey forum......no question
I took a decision and i am putting aside my pride by posting this, i had one terrific day and why not finish it on what is right to do.
I really took a decision and its not like me to come back like this.....this is a quality place.

Mr mo your comments and closing 4 of my last 5 threads have "hurt" me(i take part of the blame but......); (specially when i was not involved in one single close thread in my previous 990) to be honest i wont forget this for a while...but to stay out of this forum....not worth it...too many nice people and professional individual.
BTW Mr. Mo i still think your P.O.D is #1 and..............well.......we should get a chat Mo cose i still consider that i need to clarify some stuff, in all respect, and this forum is not the place :)

here is ALL of my work for tomorrow,
notting confirm
see you later

OTTAWA VS MONTREAL
Ottawa away is 3-12 when scoring 2 goals or less
Ottawa away is 3-13 when scoring 3 goals or less
Ottawa away is 10-0 when scoring 4 goals or more
Montreal at home is 8-2 when allowing 2 goals or less
Montreal at home is 1-8 when allowing 3 goals or more.

Ottawa away is 6-0 when allowing 2 goals or less
Ottawa away is 5-13 when allowing 3 goals or more
Montreal at home is 4-7 when scoring 2 goals or less
Montreal at home is 10-3 when scoring 3 goals or more

This is a ?no go? for me. Ottawa has way too much offensive potential for me to take a guess that they wont be able to go thru Theodore. I do like Montreal in this spot but I just cant go whit a team that had so many problems scoring in the last few games.

If i do anything i might give Montreal and the under a small shut, but only as a parlay, and as a small play.

LOS ANGELES VS COLOMBUS
Los Angeles against teams whit a goal against average over 2,80 is 1 ?over? and 6 under
Colombus goal against per game is at 2,88 so I will take a look at UNDER aspect of the game

The under is 3-1 in last 5 meetings
Under is 5-1 in L.A last 5 games.

Los Angeles away is 1-7 when they score 2 goals or less (36%)
Los Angeles away is 13-1 when they score 3 goals or more (64%)
Colombus is 6-1 when they allow 2 goals or less (30%)
Colombus is 3-13 when they allow 3 goals or more (70%)

>>>>The match up of these off/def gives us a ?medium? value for L.A to score 3 goals or more and if that is the case L.A has ?very high? chances to come out has a winner.

>>>>When L.A goes against an opponent giving 2,80 goals or more, they scored more than 3 goals in 3 games, and exactly 2 in 4 games.

Colombus at home is 1-8 when they score 2 goals or less (45%)
Colombus at home is 9-2 when they score 3 goals or more (55%)
Los Angeles away is 11-2 when they allow 2 goals or less (46%)
Los Angeles away is 1-10 when they allow 3 goals or more (54%)
No significant numbers, we have to take a look deeper into such scenarios happened this years.

>>>>>When L.A goes away against an offense under 2,45 goal per game they are allowing those opponents to score 0-1-2 times in 7 games and 3 goals or more in 3 games. This gives strong value to Colombus 1-8 and Los Angeles 11-2.

>>>>>When Colombus goes against a defense giving 2,35 or less goals at home they are 1 win- 8 lost- 2 ties. During those games they score an average of 1.36 goals, Los Angeles away when they allow 2 goals or less they are 11-2.

>>>>>>Out of 11 games at home against defense giving 2,35 goals or less, 8 went for 2 goals or less, which represent 72% of those games.


THIS IS GIVING ME A STRONG VALU FOR LA -.5 AND MEDIUM VALU ON THE UNDER.


BOSTON VS NY ISLANDERS
Nyisl GF per game is at 2.80, when Boston plays on the road against an off over 2.65 they are 3 win , 10 lost and 1 tie.
Boston off is at 2.94, when nyisl plays at home against GF>2.70 they are 4w-5L-2tie
Nyisl playing at home against teams GA under 2.5 is 8W-5L-2T for ATS 8W-7L

On 3 days rest Boston is 6-0

NYISL is 1-7 when scoring 2 goals or less at home
Nyisl is 12-3 when scoring 3 goals or more at home.
Boston is 11-9 when allowing 3 goals or less away
Boston is 1-3 when allowing more than 3 goals away.

Nyisl is 8-0 when allowing 2 goals or less at home
Nyisl is 4-11 when allowing 3 goals or more at home
Boston away is 3-8 when scoring 2 goals or less
Boston away is 16-4 when scoring 3 goals or more.

Last 8 meetings went over.
Over hit 4 of last 5 Boston road games.
Over is 7-3 last 10 Islander games.

Small lean towards nyils but this one is a pass for me.



CHICAGO VS PHILADELPHIA
Chi 12-14-5 away,
Phila 15-9-3 at home,

Chicago won first match up at home 2-1.
Philadelphia is 7-1 in rematch when they lost to opponents in previous game.

Phil 6-1 ATS last 7 meetings against Chicago

FLORIDA WASHINGTON
Florida away when scoring 2 goals or less is 3-11
Florida away when scoring 3 goals or more is 7-0
Washington at home allowing 2 goals or less is 12-1
Washington at home allowing 3 goals or more is 1-9

Washington at home when scoring 2 goals or less is 2-7
Washington at home when scoring 3 goals or more is 12-2
Florida away when allowing 2 goals or less is 3-3
Florida away when allowing 3 goals or more is 1-13

>>>>Florida allowing 3 goals or more in 70% of its away game and when Washington scores more than 3 goals at home they are 12-2


CAROLINA VS TORONTO
>>>>Toronto offense is at 2.92, Carolina on the road against offense over 2.75 is 2 wins-8 lost and 2 tie.(for ats record of 4-8, being outscored 28 to 44 for a 3.66 GAA. Since Toronto is an offensive team at home, In 75% of home game they have score 3 goals or more I don?t see how Carolina can limit >>>>Toronto to less than 3 goals. In such case Toronto is 16-2.
>>>>Toronto at home, when playing teams that have +/- the same profile as Carolina, is 3 over in 3 and won two out of 3 in such a position and 6.60 goals per game where scored in such situation.

Carolina away scoring 2 goals or less 0-7
Carolina away scoring 3 goals or more 12-3
Toronto At home allowing 3 goals or less 14-4
Toronto at home allowing 4 goals or more 1-4

Toronto at home scoring 2 goals or less 2-4 (25%)
Toronto at home scoring 3 goals or more 16-2 (75%)
Carolina away allowing 3 goals or less 10-4
Carolina away allowing 4 goals or more 1-9

Looking at Toronto and the over in this one.

BUFFALO ATLANTA

Buffalo away when scoring 2 goals or less 0-13
Buffalo away when scoring 3 goals or more 9-2
Tampa at home allowing 2 goals or less 6-2
Tampa at home allowing 3 goals or more 4-18


Buffalo away when allowing 2 goals or less 8-0 (22%)
Buffalo away when allowing 3 goals or more 1-16 (68%)
Atlanta at home scoring 3 goals or less 4-13 (81%)
Atlanta at home scoring 4 goals or more 4-0 (19%)

>>>Had some trouble whit my numbers for ATLANTA but if I?m correct, Atlanta when playing against a team whit GF under 2.70 and GA under 2.85 per game is 7 over/2 under and 2 push. Buffalo comes into this situation.
In those games Atlanta is 5wins/5 loss/3 tie that?s straight up; ATS I don?t have the numbers for this team but should be the same.
>>>Buffalo away against team whit GA>2.80(Atlanta is at 3.59) is 3 0ver-1under-1push. In those games they are 3 win and 2 loss.
>>>Buffalo when playing an off whit GF<2.50(Atlanta is at 2.35) is 1 over ? 7 under and 2 push

DETROIT VS TAMPA BAY
>>>Tampa bay at home against offense over 2.80 per game is 1 win-6lost and 1 tie.
>>>Of those 6 losses, 5 where by one goal and one by 3 goals. Considering this, the line at +1.5 for Tampa has value.

Detroit away when scoring 2 goals or less is 4-5
Detroit away when scoring 3 goals or more is 11-2
Tampa Bay at home scoring 2 goals or less 3-11
Tampa at home scoring 3 goals or more 7-1

Detroit away allowing 2 goals or less 8-1
Detroit away allowing 3 goals or more 3-7
Tampa bay at home allowing 2 goals or less 5-3
Tampa at home allowing 3 goals or more 1-10




SANJOSE vs NASHVILLE
>>>>San Jos? away against team whit off under 2,50 is 9 over and 2 under. Nash is border line to that stats whit an off at 2,51.
>>>>Nashville at home playing against team same profile as San Jose when loosing goes over or p and when winning goes under

San jose away scoring 2 goals or less is 1-8
San jose away scoring 3 goals or more 13-2


ST LOUIS VANCOUVER
Saint-Louis away when scoring 3 goals or less 5-10 (71%)
Saint-Louis away when scoring 4 goals or more 6-0 (29%)
Vancouver at home allowing 2 goals or less 13-3 (70%)
Vancouver at home allowing 3 goals or more 0-7 (30%)

Saint louis away allowing 2 goals or less 8-5
Saint louis away allowing 3 goals or more 1-8
Vancouver at home scoring 2 goals or less 1-6 (27%)
Vancouver at home scoring 3 goals or more 15-4 (73%)

>>>>Saint-Louis when allowing 3 goals or more on the road is 1-8.
>>>>Vancouver at home against a team playing GAA 2,40 goals or less they are 1 over 8 under and their SU record is at 3Win-3Loss-3tie.
>>>>Saint Louis away against offense of over 2.75 per game are SU: 3W-5L-1T
5 OVER-4 UNDER

I will take Vancouver and the under.


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Bienvenue mon ami :)


Gla dto see you back Frogey, you really have been missed. I hope that you and Mr Mo can clear things up and continue on with nothing but success.



Frogey, I never got your email from Jack, or Mr Mo could you send it to me please!


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Time too $$$, you can get my e-mail by Mo and for your question some stuff is from the net some is from my own database.

Will narrow it down later but these are the ones i like for now.
Just have to do some reading on these and some help :)

los angeles -.5 -140
under 5 -125

Philadelphia -.5 -140

washington but too expensive at -300 and line i could find is at -1,5. No go

Toronto -.5 -.160
over 5 -125

Bufalo under 5.5

Sanjose -.5 +120
over 5

Vancouver -.5
under 5.5 -125

Tampa bay +1.5
UNder 5.5
 

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Los angeles -.5 -140
under 5

Toronto -.5 -160
over 5 -125

Sanjose -.5 +120
over 5

Vancouver under 5.5 -125

Tampa +1.5 -140

Triing to narrow it down more for later, dont like the heavy chalk on toronto
 

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From papers around the leaque

Los angeles and the under.

The Kings broke for the Olympics after turning their season around with a 19-6-4-1 run that took them from a season-worst six games below 500

I think that whit out No doubts player will try to play this one for the coach:
"Watching the game tomorrow night is going to be tough, but I've got to take care of myself and make sure I do what's right."
Los Angeles Kings coach Andy Murray will remain at home in Minnesota indefinitely while he recovers from injuries sustained in a Feb. 15 car accident.

Assistant Dave Tippett will serve as interim coach. The Kings play at Columbus on Tuesday and at Pittsburgh on Wednesday.
The Kings lost just once in their last five games (2-1-1-1) heading into the 15-day Olympic break, and have reason for optimism because Zigmund Palffy scored six goals in the final three games.

SEASON SERIES: Kings, 2-0. Adam Deadmarsh has three goals and three assists for the Kings, who are 6-for-9 on the power play in the series. Los Angeles scored five first-period goals in a 7-1 road win on Oct. 23. Martin Spanhel accounted for Columbus' lone goal.
LAST MEETING: Dec. 15, 2001; Kings, 3-2. At Los Angeles, Potvin made 18 saves in improving to 6-0 against the second-year expansion team
Tugnutt and Marc Denis allowed three or fewer goals 32 times

Toronto VS Carolina
The Hurricanes are only 2-4-6 in their last 12 games
The Cup has been my dream. That's why I've spent so long in this game," said Quinn, who is confident he will get a full effort from the seven Leaf players returning from the Olympics.
Among them are two stars who had less-than-satisfying Olympic experiences, captain Mats Sundin and goalie Curtis Joseph.
Sundin was one of the best forwards at the Olympics, but was devastated when Sweden was upset in the quarter-finals by unheralded Belarus. Quinn doesn't think Sundin will take long to bounce back.
"The only thing I know about Mats is that he's gotten better and more mature during his entire time here. I don't doubt for a minute he'll be ready,"
Carolina forward Craig Adams was suspended for 10 games Wednesday for leaving the Hurricanes' bench during a fight last week.
The trip begins tonight in Toronto, where Leafs coach PAT QUIN WILL RECEIVE the accolades of a grateful nation for leading Canada to gold at the Olympics. Carolina might want to open the game to take the crowd out of this one early on, if not the crowd should boost toronto early on.
 

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This looks like the final card for tonight
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Los angeles -.5 -140
under 5
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Toronto -.5 -160
over 5 -125
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Sanjose vs Nashville over 5
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Vancouver under 5.5 -125
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Tampa +1.5 -140
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Just found out these wich :
For La vs colombus
Colombus on 3 days rest or more is 0-6
Colombus on Tuesday night 3 over 10 under
Los angeles in road game were the total is 5 or less 14-5
Los angeles is 5-1 AST vs Columbus
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Carolina vs toronto
Carolina as a road dog of half a goal 13 over 4 under
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Sanjose VS Nashville
Sanjose as a favorite 24 over 11 under
TAKING OUT SAN JOSE FROM PREVIOUS CARD BECOSE OF THIS INFO:Nashville as a home under dog of half a goal or less 11-1
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Tampa Bay in non conference game13-4
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good luck Frogy-

really like Tbay + 1 1/2 and the under in the Canucks/Blues game!
 
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