STICK A FORK IN CHENEY-SAY HELLO TO PRESIDENT JOHN KERRY

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CHENEY LOOKS LIKE A BITTER OLD MAN THAT HATES THE WORLD. TERRIBLE LIAR

EDWARDS IS RIPPING HIM A NEW A HOLE.

ALOT OF REPUBLICANS ARE CRYING IN THEIR BEERS AS I TYPE THIS.

AND EDWARDS IS BEING NICE WITH HIM. WAIT ANOTHER 30 MINUTES, EDWARDS GOES IN FOR THE KILL.

SEE YA GEORGIE BOY. NO MORE YEARS OF HURTING THE US. AND THANK GOD.

GOD BLESS CANADA AND AMERICA.

USA USA USA :clap: :clap:
 

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Well I wish it was true but I dont know what debate your watching but Cheney has been holding his own. I agree with you that Cheney is a evil looking dude and probably the biggest crook to ever be in the oval office. Cheney is killing Edwards on his basences from key votes, but Edwards did get a good shot in when he brought up Cheney's voting record
 

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I would wish this lying sack of sh*t Cheney to drop dead right now if he weren't worth another 5-10% to Kerry!

The guy is a joke. He's getting slaughtered!

This lying SOB talked about the Dems fighting defense programs. This MF'er PERSONALLY killed the Navy's A-12 Fighter Program at General Dynamics in Dec 1990 right before Christmas and literally THOUSANDS of workers were laid off IMMEDIATELY right before Christmas in Ft. Worth - MANY of my friends. I worked there at the time but was not on that program. The General Dynamics plant NEVER recovered after that and eventually wound up in the hands of Lockheed. Middle class people throughout the country lost there homes due to layoffs when this scumbag served his 1st Bushmaster.
 

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Are you guys watching the same debate as me? Hey I hate Cheney but I cant see where he is getting his ass kicked! Edwards is going to take some heat for all the votes he missed, but I agree with you Cheney looked like a moron for criticizing Kerry while he was for eliminating the same weapons
 

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IF CHENEY WAS HONEST FOR ONCE HE MIGHT HAVE HAD A CHANCE. BUT MOST OF US KNOW THE FACTS.

SORRY DICK NOT THIS TIME. YOUR LIES HAVE CAUGHT UP WITH YOU. AT LEAST PAY THE TAX PAYERS BACK THE MONEY YOU STOLE WITH HALLIBERTON WHICH THEY HAD TO COVER.

WHAT IS DUBYA GONNA DO FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE? OH YA LIVE OFF THE HALLIBERTON PAYOFFS AND SUADI OIL CONNECTIONS. A VOTE FOR BUSH IS TRULY SAD.

GOD BLESS AMERICA. ON THE ROAD TO PROSPERITY.
 

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OH DICK. YOU JUST HAD TO USE THE BS SCARE TACTICS IN YOUR FINISH. ONE WORD "'DESPERATE'

POOR OLD MAN. GUESS HE FIGURES HE DOESNT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.

WHAT A PATHETIC HUMAN/AMERICAN.

THANK GOD KERRY EASILY WILL WIN.
 

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Debate debate debate

Debate debate debate

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This invasion has become the Rich man's war using the poor man as fodder. I still say, bring back the draft and and watch this murder stop in it's tracks. We don't mind body bags as long as we're not in one.
 

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Edwards and Kerry will give every family affordable health insurance? How? It's IMPOSSIBLE. Thats just another LIE. Double special forces? How? thats another LIE. Protect America from Iran and N. Korea? I thought they were agaist force? These guy's really believe they can hood wink most American's into voting for them? They are crazy!! This election won't be close!! President Bush wins by a LANDSLIDE. The only reason the news are saying it's going to be close is because they want people to read their papers and watch their TV shows.
 

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I must have been watching a different debate. Sounds like most of you are so overly-biased and love Kerry so much that you didn't even see what just happened. Cheney ripped this guy a new one. Especially on the $87 billion Kerry Flip flop. Kerry flip flopped his position on Iraq and voted against $$$ for ammo and armor for our troops because Dean was winning primaries on an anti-war ticket!! When Cheney brought this up Edwards was speechless.

I think that is devistating and it's only one of many reasons that Kerry will no doubt lose this election. He is weak on terror and everyone knows it.
 

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Thought Cheney did well especially the point about Kerry changing themes to meet the chalenges of primary--eg changing attitude on war when Dems were backing Dean--however maybe my view was tainted somewhat as I expected Edwards to dominate with his backround in speaking and that clearly never happened-

Now in further proof of who Aljazeera is promoting read their headlines and ask yourself what debate were they watching.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/259FB03F-1BF1-4AEB-9425-A8EC0C1F3E7C.htm

always like these fact checks after debates---however I disagree the global test was taken out of contest---

Debate Fact Check

Wednesday, October 06, 2004



WASHINGTON ? Democrat John Edwards (search) and Vice President Dick Cheney (search) stretched the findings of U.S. intelligence to their own ends Tuesday night in tangling over Saddam Hussein's alleged ties to Al Qaeda.

Edwards said the connection between Saddam and the terrorist network was minimal or nonexistent; Cheney asserted Saddam's Iraq "had an established relationship with Al Qaeda."

Both statements mask what intelligence sources have said. The contacts were limited and sketchy, mostly Iraqi intelligence agents and Al Qaeda operatives, and did not amount to state sponsorship of Al Qaeda (search) or any link to the Sept. 11 attacks, U.S. intelligence officials have said.

But the recent Senate Intelligence Committee report on flawed Iraqi intelligence did conclude that the CIA reasonably assessed there probably were several contacts between Iraq and Al Qaeda throughout the 1990s, although they did not add up to a formal relationship.

The exchange was typical of a night in which each accused the other of mangling facts and traded accusations at a faster pace than in the presidential debate last week.

"More attacks, more problematic facts," said Kathleen Hall Jamieson, director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania, comparing this debate with the last. She said Edwards and Cheney had more of a chance to challenge each other on distorted claims than President Bush and Democrat John Kerry did, but "still a lot of factual inaccuracies were left standing."

In perhaps the most awkward blooper of the evening, Cheney told Edwards to his face that they had never met before the debate, despite evidence they had.

Edwards' campaign later provided a transcript of a February 2001 prayer breakfast at which Cheney began his remarks by acknowledging the North Carolina senator. The campaign said the two also met when Edwards accompanied the other North Carolina senator, Elizabeth Dole, to her swearing-in ceremony.

Cheney was trying to make the point that Edwards was an absentee senator. "The first time I ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight."

At one point, Edwards attacked Cheney for the administration's decision to give billions of dollars in new contracts to the vice president's former company, Halliburton. But congressional auditors recently reviewed those contracts and concluded U.S. officials met legal guidelines in awarding the business without competition ? in part because Halliburton was the only company capable of doing some of the work.

He also asserted, "They sent 40,000 American troops into Iraq without the body armor they needed," a comment that might suggest they had no body armor at all, when in fact they did.

Gen. Peter Pace, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs, said 40,000 troops did not have the brand new, improved armor but, "every soldier and Marine on the ground over had body armor."

Cheney accused Kerry of voting for taxes 98 times. That's down from the 350 times wrongly claimed by Republicans, but it's still a stretch. Those 98 votes include times when Kerry voted for lower taxes ? but not as low as Republicans wanted. And times when many procedural votes were cast on a single tax increase or package.

Whatever the relationship between Al Qaeda and Iraq over the years, another question touched on by the debaters was whether Saddam's Iraq had anything to do with the Sept. 11 attacks specifically. There is no evidence of that.

The vice president stated flatly that he has never suggested a connection between Iraq and Sept. 11.

But he did say in 2003 that if efforts to establish democracy in Iraq succeeded, "we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11."

Touching on one of the Democratic ticket's favorite themes, Edwards declared the Bush administration is "for outsourcing jobs," taking out of context comments from Labor Secretary Elaine Chao (search) and a report by a council of economists who advise the president. Bush and Cheney have not said they support the practice of U.S companies sending jobs from the United States to cheaper labor in other countries.

The Council of Economic Advisers said job outsourcing is part of a healthy dynamic in which free trade in return benefits Americans. And Chao said last month that the concerns about job losses ignore that foreign-owned companies are creating many jobs in the United States at the same time.

Chao said employers have eliminated about 300,000 jobs in the United States in favor of cheaper labor elsewhere, but about 9 million Americans currently work for U.S. subsidiaries of foreign-owned companies.

Also in the debate:

?Edwards said that while U.S. troops were fighting in Iraq, the Bush administration "lobbied the Congress to cut their combat pay. This is the height of hypocrisy."

It's also arguable. When the government faced prospects that increased allowances for the troops would expire as stipulated by Congress, the Pentagon said it would make up any shortfall through incentive pay or similar means.

?Cheney took Kerry out of context in quoting him as saying that he favored a global test before he would deploy U.S. troops to pre-empt an attack on the United States.

Kerry said in his debate that he would not cede to anyone the right to move pre-emptively against a threat but that he would do so in a way that proved to Americans and the world that he had taken the action for a legitimate reason.
 

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Cheney & Iraq

Cheney & Iraq

?According to oil industry executives and confidential United Nations records, however, Halliburton held stakes in two firms that signed contracts to sell more than $73 million in oil production equipment and spare parts to Iraq while Cheney was chairman and chief executive officer of the Dallas-based company... The Halliburton subsidiaries joined dozens of American and foreign oil supply companies that helped Iraq increase its crude exports from $4 billion in 1997 to nearly $18 billion in 2000. Since the program began, Iraq has exported oil worth more than $40 billion.?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/w...35751-2001Jun22

?The Dresser merger also raised ethical questions. The United States had concluded that Iraq, Libya, and Iran supported terrorism and had imposed strict sanctions on them. Yet during Cheney?s tenure at Halliburton the company did business in all three countries. In the case of Iraq, Halliburton legally evaded U.S. sanctions by conducting its oil-service business through foreign subsidiaries that had once been owned by Dresser?. under Cheney?s watch, two foreign subsidiaries of Dresser sold millions of dollars? worth of oil services and parts to Saddam?s regime?? http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040216fa_fact


This is more about business with Iran... a place we will probably be invading soon - ?Halliburton, the company formerly run by Dick Cheney, the US vice-president, was last night facing another investigation, this time over possible business dealings with Iran.?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/oil/story...1146372,00.html

"It was only five years ago when Vice President Dick Cheney, as chief executive of the oil-field supply corporation, Halliburton Co., was engaged in secret business dealings with Saddam's regime by selling Iraq oil production equipment and spare parts to get the Iraqi oil fields up and running, according to confidential United Nations records." http://www.ccmep.org/2003_articles/...halliburton.htm

"When Dick Cheney was CEO of the oilfield supply firm Halliburton, the company did $23.8 million in business with Saddam Hussein, the evildoer ``prepared to share his weapons of mass destruction with terrorists.''" http://www.rense.com/general29/sse.htm (this is not a rense article. rense is only hosting it for journalstar.com

also check out this claim vs fact list with all credible sources http://www.americanprogress.org/sit...JRJ8OVF&b=23898

No wonder they thought he had WMD. They were financing him
 

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SAY GOOD NIGHT GEORGIE

"NO I DONT WANNA GO TO BED, I WANT TO LIE AND STEAL SOME MORE"

GOOD NIGHT GEORGIE.

AND NOT A MINUTE TOO LATE.

USA USA USA-HELLO PRESIDENT KERRY
 

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It looked like a tie to me. Cheney twisted the truth numerous times and Edwards caught him on it. Especially about the coalition. Ninety percent of the "coalition" deaths are American. Cheney tried to add the Iraqi deaths into it. Cheney is evil but is not a fool.
 
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