StL @ Zona Game 2

[ddubs]

Look at all these career avg vs Schilling! Didn't think they hit Schilling so well in the past.

CHUCK FINLEY CAREER VS. DIAMONDBACKS
Pitcher G GS CG ShO IP H R ER HR BB K W L Hd S BS ERA
Chuck Finley 3 3 0 0 18.0 18 13 12 4 11 19 1 1 0 0 0 6.00

DIAMONDBACKS BATTERS CAREER VS. CHUCK FINLEY
Batter PA AB H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB K TB DP SLG OBP OPS AVG
Steve Finley 20 19 8 0 0 0 2 5 0 0 2 8 0 .421 .450 .871 .421
Junior Spivey 3 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 .333 .333 .667 .333
David Dellucci 3 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 .333 .333 .667 .333
Felix Jose 14 13 4 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 3 4 0 .308 .357 .665 .308
Luis Gonzalez 10 10 3 0 0 1 4 0 1 0 2 6 0 .600 .300 .900 .300
Matt Williams 9 8 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 1 3 5 1 .625 .333 .958 .250
Greg Colbrunn 11 9 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 2 0 .222 .364 .586 .222
Danny Bautista 11 10 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 3 2 0 .200 .273 .473 .200
Chad Moeller 6 6 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 .167 .167 .333 .167
Quinton McCracken 16 14 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 1 2 2 .143 .250 .393 .143
Jay Bell 10 8 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 2 4 4 0 .500 .300 .800 .125
Tony Womack 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
Lyle Overbay 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
Damian Miller 6 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 1 .000 .167 .167 .000
Mark Little 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
Mark Grace 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
Erubiel Durazo 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
Chris Donnels 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
Craig Counsell 3 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
Alex Cintron 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
Rod Barajas 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000

CURT SCHILLING CAREER VS. CARDINALS
Pitcher G GS CG ShO IP H R ER HR BB K W L Hd S BS ERA
Curt Schilling 22 19 5 1 133.2 124 73 68 16 38 118 5 9 0 0 0 4.58

CARDINALS BATTERS CAREER VS. CURT SCHILLING
Batter PA AB H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB K TB DP SLG OBP OPS AVG
Jim Edmonds 10 8 5 1 0 2 6 0 1 2 1 12 0 1.500 .700 2.200 .625
Scott Rolen 10 9 4 1 0 1 3 0 0 1 3 8 0 .889 .500 1.389 .444
Fernando Vina 26 25 11 5 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 16 0 .640 .462 1.102 .440
Mike Matheny 9 8 3 2 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 5 0 .625 .444 1.069 .375
Eli Marrero 7 6 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 1 1 5 0 .833 .429 1.262 .333
Miguel Cairo 10 10 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 3 2 .300 .300 .600 .300
Edgar Renteria 28 28 7 2 0 0 2 0 0 0 8 9 1 .321 .250 .571 .250
J.D. Drew 13 12 3 0 0 1 3 0 0 1 8 6 0 .500 .308 .808 .250
Albert Pujols 7 6 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 .167 .286 .452 .167
Tino Martinez 13 13 2 0 0 1 3 0 0 0 4 5 0 .385 .154 .538 .154
Mike DiFelice 9 9 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 2 .111 .111 .222 .111
So Taguchi 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
Kerry Robinson 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
Eduardo Perez 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
Wilson Delgado 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
Ivan Cruz 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000

 

[ddubs]

Bill Miller should be behind HP.

Ump stats are not nearly as important in the playoffs, but FWIW, home team 8-0 in his last 8 games. 7-3 Over.

 

[ddubs]

D-Backs line-up:

Tony Womack, SS
Junior Spivey, 2B
Steve Finley, CF
Greg Colbrunn, 1B
Matt Williams, 3B
Quinton McCracken, RF
Mark Little, LF
Damian Miller, C
Curt Schilling, P

 

[TJBELL]

LOOKS LIKE AN OVER GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck bro!!!:thefinger :thefinger :thefinger :thefinger

 

[ddubs]

Dude, HUUUUUGE Cajones you got. Best of luck on your Over. I'll sit on the sidelines and cheer for you. Laying off of this game.

:spotting: :spotting:

 

[ddubs]

Is Schilling tipping pitches? The debate rages on

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By Wayne Drehs
ESPN.com

That sinking feeling
How Curt Schilling has performed over his last four outings:
Date Opp. IP Hits Runs Res.
9/15 Mil. 8 8 4 ND
9/20 Col. 7.1 14 9 L
9/25 St. L. 8 6 6 L
9/29 Col. 1* 3 3 ND
* Pitched in relief

PHOENIX -- It's an uncomfortable topic for any pitcher, not to mention a back-to-back 20-game winner who has struggled the past month and now must save his team from postseason disaster.

Yet entering Game 2 of this Division Series, a virtual must-win for Arizona following St. Louis' 12-2 pasting in Game 1, Diamondbacks ace Curt Schilling couldn't avoid questions as to whether or not he's committing pitching's greatest faux pas -- tipping his pitches.


Curt Schilling has been stunned of late over his lack of success.


ESPN baseball analyst Rick Sutcliffe said he discovered Schilling's errors during his Sept. 25 start against St. Louis. His curiosities were confirmed during Sunday's game against Colorado, one in which he broadcast. Sutcliffe said he could tell by the way Schilling held his glove what he was going to throw. He went as far as to predict the pitches during the broadcast.

Of the 16 pitches Schilling threw, Sutcliffe predicted all 16 correctly. And after the game, he talked with Schilling about the problem.

"It's something that every pitcher goes through from time to time," Sutcliffe said. "When you get a pattern of doing a certain thing on a certain pitch, everybody picks up on it. The biggest thing is recognizing it."

On Wednesday, nobody on the Cardinals or Diamondbacks would admit such was the case. But not everyone denied it, either. And by reading between the lines of the tap dancing quotes and listening to Sutcliffe, you realize if Schilling doesn't correct the potential problem on Thursday night, the defending World Champions could be one game from elimination.

"Schill is a very intelligent man," Arizona manager Bob Brenly said. "We've got a lot of very experienced baseball eyes that have been looking at the video the past couple days. If there's something there, we'll correct it."

If indeed Schilling is tipping his pitches, it could explain his stretch run. Last year's Cy Young runnerup, Schilling was 23-7 during the regular season, giving him 45 victories the past two seasons. But he allowed 18 runs -- 17 earned -- in his last 16 1/3 innings. He also lost consecutive starts for the first time since mid-June.

His lousy September, during which his 5.87 ERA ballooned his season-long ERA from 2.81 to 3.23, likely cost him his first Cy Young Award.

Sunday, against the Rockies, Schilling tuned up for the playoffs in a brief relief appearance, only to surrender a three-run homer to Colorado's Brent Butler.

Schilling, Brenly and catcher Damian Miller all insist that health is not the issue. Nor are mechanics. Or pitch selection. Instead, they say the problem has been execution.

"The best plan in the world can't survive poor execution," Schilling said. "Mentally, yeah, I'm a little bruised. I stunk it up the last five or six starts. No one wants to have their psyche beat like that."

As for tipping his pitches, Schilling isn't sure that's been the problem, either. Sutcliffe said after Sunday's game that Schilling approached him about what he saw and the two talked about it along with teammate Mark Grace. After that, Schilling watched the performance on video.

On Wednesday, he downplayed his concern over the issue.



"I will pay it the consideration I think it deserves and look at the video," Schilling said. "Certainly it's something where if I feel it needs to be addressed, I'll address it."

Tipping pitches is nothing new in baseball. Brenly admitted on Wednesday that "an overwhelming majority" of his team's pregame preparation is spent scrutinizing opposing pitchers to find any sort of advantage. Grace called it part of the game.

But it's a rare problem for someone like Schilling, a meticulous student of the game who has a research library filled with videos, tendencies and notes on every batter he's ever faced. Now it appears the tables may have been turned on him.

"You'd be surprised how many people do it," Grace said. "We're always spending time trying to find anything we can to give us an advantage. I'm sure they do the same thing.

"I don't think they have him. I mean, he had a six-hitter with 12 K's the last time out against St. Louis. He made two bad pitches (two three-run homers) and that was it."

Yet Grace's next words cast a shadow of doubt over such confidence.

"And if they do have him, then he'll get it fixed."

The issue of tipping is a sensitive one in baseball. From the pitcher's point of view, nothing is more humbling than admitting somebody has cracked your code. For the batters, the last thing they want is to get their hands on the code and then have the pitcher realize it.

So it was of little surprise prior to Game 1, when St. Louis outfielder Jim Edmonds teased Sutcliffe about taking Schilling's struggles public.

"We had a good laugh about it," Sutcliffe said. "He told me he was yelling at the TV when I said that. I told him it was just me doing my job."

On Wednesday, Edmonds, like Schilling, downplayed the issue. As well as his conversation with Sutcliffe.

"I think it's something the media is making a bigger deal out of than it's really worth," the center fielder said. "If he shuts us out he's a great pitcher, if we score runs then he's a bad pitcher. Whatever happened to giving us credit? We have a great offense here. This team is not a joke."

 

[ddubs]

Looking closer at the Sept 26 game in StL, has Schilling really lost his touch??

C. Schilling (L, 23-7) 8IP 6H 6R 6ER 1BB 12SO 2HR 111PC-77ST 3.14ERA

6 out of the 8 Innings Schillings pitched were 1-2-3 innings. He gave up 2 3-run dingers to Drew and Rolen, but he's always been known to give up homers, just mostly solo-homers.


WHIP of 0.875 and 12SO/8IP for someone who's struggling ain't all that bad.

 

[ddubs]

ST LOUIS ARIZONA
AVG HR RBI AVG HR RBI
Fernando Vina 2B .500 0 0 Tony Womack SS .200 0 0
J.D. Drew RF .000 0 0 Junior Spivey 2B .200 0 0
Jim Edmonds CF .750 1 2 Greg Colbrunn 1B .000 0 0
Albert Pujols LF .500 0 2 Matt Williams 3B .250 0 0
Scott Rolen 3B .200 1 2 Steve Finley CF .000 0 1
Tino Martinez 1B .000 0 0 Quinton Mccracken RF .500 0 1
Edgar Renteria SS .500 0 0 Damian Miller C .000 0 0
Mike Matheny C .667 0 2 Mark Little LF .000 0 0
Chuck Finley LHP .000 0 0 Curt Schilling RHP .000 0 0