Stupid but nagging NFL question

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I suffered through the first half of that boring Monday Night Game....it was like watching paint dry....

No score first 28 min of first half .gee I could have been looking for a cancer cure instead of sitting thru that ineptitude.....


THEN "Carolina going to its 2 minute drill" bam, they go down the field and score 7-0 at half time..


NOW here enters my question...Carolina third quarter goes 3 and out over and over aqain....WHY NOT GO TO THE TWO MINUTE DRILL OVER AND OVER? hell it worked first half?

Is there a secret oath ALL NFL coaches take...."I will only use the 2 minute drill in the last 2 minutes...even if my team seriously sux and we are down 2 TD'S?"

That combined with every nit-pickin penalty called, is making it impossible to enjoy watching a game anymore.
Let them play the friggin game

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Sounds like you lost money.

actually bet next to nothing on NFL..mostly an episode of dart tossing


just hate the watered down product the NFL has become...maybe you enjoy your brain leaking out of your ear holes when a dumfuk coach calls passing plays second and goal from the one and when that does not work, tries it again then settles for field goals...even though they have a huge o-line and decent running backs

I did have $25.00 action bet on Carolina first half +6...
gave it back on over 23 second half...lost 1.25
 

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actually bet next to nothing on NFL..mostly an episode of dart tossing


just hate the watered down product the NFL has become...maybe you enjoy your brain leaking out of your ear holes when a dumfuk coach calls passing plays second and goal from the one and when that does not work, tries it again then settles for field goals...even though they have a huge o-line and decent running backs

I did have $25.00 action bet on Carolina first half +6...
gave it back on over 23 second half...lost 1.25

No doubt it was a bad game. They happen. But if it was an entertaining scorefest, several people would be talking about how the games are fixed for ratings.

The coach wouldn't have been so dumb if the receiver ran the play right.
 

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actually its a very good question..if you can't get def off balance running your standard off then change up and use the hurry up a few times and if it works stay with it, but the nfl is all about being in the game til the 4th qtr and then somehow win it..yuckkkk!!
 

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i've been harpooning this for years

check the stats on the % of time a team scores on it's drives in non "2 minute drill situatons" vs the $ of time the score in "2 minute drill situations" (also known as hurry up)

the % go from 20% to almost 75%.....it's sickening.....and i still have no idea why teams dont mix in a "hurry up offense" once in a while, esp when the offense is struggling
 

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Cincinati made the superbowl 1988 lost to SF 20-16

Cincinati made the superbowl 1988 lost to SF 20-16

A No-Huddle Offense was commonly used by all teams when time in the game was running low. However, Sam Wyche, the head coach of the Bengals in 1988, along with offensive coordinator Bruce Coslet, made the high-paced offense the standard modality for the ball club regardless of time remaining. By quickly setting up for the next play (often within 5-10 seconds after the last play despite being afforded 45 seconds) this hindered the other teams' defense from substituting situational players, regrouping for tactics, and, some suggest, increased the defenses' rate of fatigue (This is attributed to the belief that the offense dictates when a play starts so they tend to be more mentally relaxed and prepared for the start of a play where the defense must remain on a different level of alert before the play starts). In response, the NFL instituted several rules related to this tactic:

* Allowing the defense ample time for substitutions (if offensive substitutions are made)
* If a player's injury causes the play-clock to stop, the player must sit out at least one play
* Charging a time-out to a team when a player is injured within a certain time period of the game

The tactic was used by the franchise from the late 80s while Sam Wyche was the coach. The main rivals for AFC supremacy were the Buffalo Bills, coached by Marv Levy. Most of the high-profile games (the various games for AFC Conference titles and regular season games) between the two led to these changes in NFL rules.

Wyche recalled that before the '88 AFC title game the Buffalo Bills had seemingly convinced league officials to penalize the Bengals for running a no-huddle offense. In a statement made to the Bengals' press in 2005, he relayed "The NFL was nice enough to come to us an hour and 55 minutes before the game and tell us we would be given a 15-yard penalty every time we used it. Of course we had practiced it all week. We told them if they wanted to answer to the public for changing the competitive balance of the AFC championship game, that was up to them, but we were using it. They never dropped a flag."


The NFL strongly discouraged its use
 

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Of course a lot of the success of the two minute offense has to do with the defense being played. Most teams play a soft defense against it for some reason and allow the offense to march down the field.
 

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Of course a lot of the success of the two minute offense has to do with the defense being played. Most teams play a soft defense against it for some reason and allow the offense to march down the field.

Which brings another point that kills me. Why do college and pro football teams switch from the scheme that has shut down the opposition all game to a "prevent" D in crunch time?? Talk about frustrating to watch.....
 

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I'm only playing devil's advocate here.....

But I think the main reason a team like Carolina doesn't stay in the two minute offense is so they can actually rest their defense a little bit. If you decide to strictly run the two minute drill, and say you go three and out a couple of times in a row, then your defense might as well not even leave the field.....and that will ultimately put you in an even bigger hole, where you'd have to use the two minute offense anyway. Controlling the clock and resting your defense is very critical. Having a gassed defense doesnt do you any favors obviously.....and that's a way to lose games big.....kinda like what Carolina is doing anyway:sadwave:
 

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Which brings another point that kills me. Why do college and pro football teams switch from the scheme that has shut down the opposition all game to a "prevent" D in crunch time?? Talk about frustrating to watch.....

So true. And they say they do not want to give up the big play. But they let the offense march down the field 10 to 15 yards at a time. Using up the clock. So they can give up the score with no time left! But the really frustrating thing is that so few coaches can manage the clock in the last two minutes anyway.
 

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I'm only playing devil's advocate here.....

But I think the main reason a team like Carolina doesn't stay in the two minute offense is so they can actually rest their defense a little bit. If you decide to strictly run the two minute drill, and say you go three and out a couple of times in a row, then your defense might as well not even leave the field.....and that will ultimately put you in an even bigger hole, where you'd have to use the two minute offense anyway. Controlling the clock and resting your defense is very critical. Having a gassed defense doesnt do you any favors obviously.....and that's a way to lose games big.....kinda like what Carolina is doing anyway:sadwave:

What I read in the article, 1988 Cincinnati superbowl season of using the "No Huddle" all the time, they HAD the NFL worst defense, yet outscored everyone and made it to the big game and were beat by Joe Montana 20-16
 
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