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DOGS THAT BARK

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Thought title was appropriate--

After almost 8 years of listening to (opinion) of how incompetent and greedy GW was/is and how intelligent Bill and Kerry are--I think its quite remarkable that this dummy managed to accumulate quite a bit before politics.

Where on flip side Bill never made squat before political windfalls--tax returns from 1992 forward
http://www.taxhistory.org/presidential/

and Kerry took the marriage route--and in the true nature of the Haskell syndrome--rants about two America's and the little guy--but actions shows he could care less about misfortunate---

Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry's largest single source of income in 2003 came from the sale of his half-interest in a painting by a 17th-century Dutch artist, according to tax returns released Tuesday by the Kerry campaign. (To see Kerry's entire 2003 federal return, click here.)

Kerry's 2003 return shows that he received $175,000 as his part from the sale of a work by the 17th-century Dutch seascape painter Adam Willaerts.

Kerry's Senate salary for 2003 was $147,818.

The return says Kerry acquired his half of the painting for $500,000 in May 1996 and sold his portion in March 2003 for $675,000.

In 1996, the year he acquired his half of the $1,000,000 picture, Kerry reported a total income of $143,795.

The return does not say who owned the other half of the painting, which sold in 2003 for a total of $1,350,000, but it was presumably Kerry's multimillionaire heiress wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry. The two file separate tax returns, and the campaign did not release any information about Mrs. Kerry's income or taxes.

Kerry also reported $89,220 in royalties from his campaign autobiography, A Call to Service: My Vision for a Better America, published last October by Viking Press.

In all, taking into account losses from investments, Kerry reported a total 2003 income of $395,338. His total federal tax bill was $90,575. He had $27,277 of that withheld from his paychecks and paid the rest, $63,298, with his tax return.

Kerry reported giving $43,735, or about 11 percent of his total income, to charity. That significant level of giving stands in contrast to his record in the 1990s, in which the issue of the senator's charitable contributions was a source of controversy. In 1995, Kerry reportedly had a taxable income of $126,179, and made charitable contributions of $0. In 1994, he gave $2,039 to charity. In 1993, the figure was $175. In 1992, it was $820, and in 1991, it was $0.
Kerry's 2003 return illustrates the extent to which Kerry's lifestyle is subsidized by his wife. Apart from the income from the painting, Kerry's Senate salary would not be enough to pay the property taxes on the several residences they own.
In addition to his 2003 returns, Kerry also released federal tax returns from the years 1999 to 2002 yesterday. There has been some dispute about returns for those years. Kerry has claimed that he had already released the returns ? in January of this year, he said, " I released all my tax returns for 20 years. I have never not released my tax returns throughout my political career." But aside from releasing details from his 2002 taxes ? which showed a total income of $144,091 ? it is not clear that Kerry has ever made public his returns from 1999 or 2000 or 2001 before now.
 

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Do you ever dig a little deeper before you post something this ridiculous? Was Kerry or Clintons father on the board of the Carlyle group or had friends and family heavily in politics who basically made laws when they wanted something they needed? To think this guy who had failed business after business bailed out by higher ups, is a success story is laughable. He ran Texas into the ground and and now his policies are showing their effects with the middle class getting waxed. I will show you how this great business man did business dog with an article that was probably never published here. When he was part owners or the Texas Rangers. I will show you how he use to do business.
 

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Now if that isn't a classic Wayne post, I don't know what is. Classic, Wayne, classic.

George made his money before politics, huh. Apparently, it slipped your mind that this criminal you support was born with the perverbial silver spoon in his mouth.

Classic Wayne, classic. Always facts, huh, Wayne always facts. Do you see how your "facts" are somewhat, shall we say, out of fukcing context. You've erroneously portrayed this incompetent murderer as some hard working guy who used his own skills, intelligence and savy to work his way up from nothing to become president of the United States. His last name of "Bush" didn't play into that rise to fame did it scumball.

I hate to break this to you but the reality is your talking about Bill Clinton. As we all know, Bush (yep just like the Kennedy's) was handed everything to him due to his family. Just like Clinton was, huh. Funny how your "facts" don't seem to take that into account.

You seem to have a problem with Kerry marrying into the Heinz fortune and using those connections to launch his presidential bid yet, have no problems with a guy whose father was a former president and who was handed businesses which he ran into the ground. A real Mark Cuban.

You said above "...in true Haskell fashion...". Wow. Whats it like to live in Waynes world? I honestly hope you are just stupid and not intentionally misrepresenting your wacked out thinking. Unfortuneatly, I know the answer to that question.

Eddie
 

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Bush gets how much for Pres. $300000. But he had income of over $750000. I wonder from what It came from. Maybe stock in Hal and ExMobile. Profits from war in Iraq. Maybe?
 

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This isnt the article i wanted but what i recall he bullied these two families into selling there farms to extend the parking lot at Arlington stadium. Talk about keeping the gov't out of our lives as one of the big neocons platform. They put the Gov't right into these peoples lives forcing them to sell their land. I think but im not sure the families counter sued and won in court to get the real value of their land. Just a bully dirt bag think to do but when you have some power and the ablity to be a dirtbag you can accomplish a lot in this country.

Bush as businessman
How the Texas governor made his millions
Brooks Jackson/CNN

May 13, 1999
Web posted at: 6:00 p.m. EDT (2200 GMT)


ARLINGTON, Texas (May 13) -- In Austin, Texas, not everyone admires Gov. George W. Bush.

Radio host Jim Hightower is one such Bush critic. "He says he's a compassionate conservative," Hightower said. "I say he's a crony capitalist." "Crony capitalist?" Maybe. Multi-millionaire? Certainly.

Bush started in the Texas oil business, after Yale University and Harvard Business School. Wealthy family friends and others invested millions with him, but with poor results. A 1985 disclosure shows Bush's track record: Investors got back only 45 cents on the dollar, but few complained.

Investors also got tax deductions averaging more than 80 cents on every dollar invested. Those early Bush ventures were mainly tax shelters.

When his father was president, there were suspicions that the Persian Gulf nation of Bahrain tried to enrich the younger Bush. Bahrain granted an exclusive drilling contract to Harken Energy Corporation, in which the younger Bush held stock. But he says he opposed the deal.

Bush spokesperson Karen Hughes says, "He felt the company just was not large enough, that it was outside the scope of their experience." And the deal turned out to be a loser, abandoned after two expensive dry holes.
In 1990 Bush unloaded most of his Harken shares for $835,000 about two months before Harken announced a big loss. That triggered an investigation by the Securities and Exchange Commission into possible insider trading by Bush, but the SEC took no action.

A look at Harken's stock price may show why: Bush sold for $4 a share. Harken stock did dip to $2.38 the day after the bad earnings were released, but four days later bounced right back to $4 a share, exactly what Bush had been paid.

And the stock kept rising: Bush attorney Robert Jordan said, "A year later, in fact, the value had doubled to $8 a share."

So Bush could have done much better if he had waited.

Bush did not make his fortune in the oil fields. He made it at a major-league ball park heavily subsidized by taxpayers.
Bush takes credit for conceiving The Ballpark at Arlington, home of the Texas Rangers baseball team, which he bought in 1989 with a wealthy group of investors. Among them: billionaire Richard Rainwater of Fort Worth.

Bush invested just over $600,000, but Arlington taxpayers invested a lot more. "It was $135 million worth of sales tax money," said attorney Glenn Sodd. "The city donated a good bit of land to the project. They got a sales tax exemption on all the items that were purchased for the stadium. We have a property tax in Texas and they were given as part of the deal a property tax exemption." A total of at least $200 million, according to Sodd.
And there's more: Sodd sued the Rangers on behalf of two families whose property was seized for stadium parking. A jury found they were paid about one-seventh of what the land was worth. But the Rangers defend the deal.

"Basically, what we think we did was to create a model public-private partnership in which both sides came out ahead," said Bush partner and Rangers President Tom Schieffer.

Bush declined to be interviewed, but Schieffer says taxpayers got their money's worth.

"That's what we have always said in this process: 'If this wasn't good for Arlington, don't do it.' And that's the way we took it to the voters," Schieffer said. "We said, 'This is going to be good for the Rangers, no question about it. This is going to be good for us. But if it's not going to be good for you, don't do it.'"

The team threatened to move, and Arlington taxpayers voted in a half-cent increase in the sales tax. The vote was 2-to-1.

The new, subsidized stadium turned out to be a great deal for Bush. He was the most visible partner, and the publicity helped launch him into the governorship in 1994. And when the team was sold last year Bush's share came to at least $14.9 million with perhaps another $1 million or $2 million still to come.

Jim Runzheimer is one Arlington resident who opposed the deal.

"He put $600,000 into this project and he did a little bit better than Hillary Clinton," Runzheimer said. "She only made ... $100,000 or $200,000, from her dealing in commodities. Gov. Bush has made $15 million."

"Looking at it from the perspective of a businessman, this was an awfully sweet deal for the business," said Sodd. "Looking at it as a public official, we think it's lousy policy to use government money to subsidize billionaires in the pursuit of their business interests."
So Bush the businessman did prosper. But not by his bootstraps -- with help from wealthy friends and taxpayer subsidies.
 

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Just to point another thing out which i have said since i have been posting here. This family is second to none in using tax payers money. Who funds defense companies? Tax payers. Their salaries? Tax payers. Their wars? Tax payers. Their baseball stadium? Tax Payers. Him Cheney, daddy and all the rest of the thieves have made a great deal of money from tax payer dollars. Probably 99 cents on the dollar of profit in there lives have come from tax payers.
 

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Bush gets how much for Pres. $300000. But he had income of over $750000. I wonder from what It came from. Maybe stock in Hal and ExMobile. Profits from war in Iraq. Maybe?

im pretty sure he makes 4 hundred thousand. This was his first move as the new president. a one hundred percent raise from the previous presidency. Of course this is tax payers money once again.
 

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Can always count on you to bite Sponge-

Yep GW family back round didn't hurt--and Billy Bobs disfunctiojnal family didn't help---

Ever hear the old adage an apple doesn't fall far from tree--Billy only chance was finding a winning ticket some one threw down at the race track--of course he was smarter than his brother (another apple)--he found his niche in the way of PT Barnham--while he couldn't cut it in civilian life he found the road of a political grifter pays huge dividends--when you have the right audience--imagine if you would-- NOW backing him for 2nd term--but hey-- MADD probably still supports Kennedy in Mass--right Stevie:shrug:
 
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