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UGA12

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Atlanta Falcons to win SB <<<200 to win 9500>>> (You can get even better number, mine's local)
Atlanta Falcons to win NFC <<<100 to win 2000>>>

....First let me repeat that this is a pure value play. I am well aware that the defense has been bad, Dan Quinn has been owned by the division, and Matty Ice melted last year under shanahans offense. Having said that, as far as futures go, this one is a no-brainer for me after looking at recent history.
....Assumptions I am making, so if you disagree with these then I understand you not seeing the value. 1) The Falcons have a multitude of weapons offensively and an improved LOS to go with a really good QB in the prime of his career. This will equate to one of if not the top offense in the League. 2) The Falcons lost 5 games last year by a combined 14 points, that will not happen this year and they will make the playoffs. 3) Matt Ryan and the Defense are now in year 2 of new systems and will cause more while giving up fewer turnovers(last year they were -7). 3) The NFC is just not a real scary place. Get in the playoffs and there is no team that can not be beaten. 4) At +4750 the expected win % is 2.06. At +2000 the expected win % is 4.7. Given the assumptions above and the stats to come below, these numbers are absurd from a value standpoint.
....No doubt a case could be made for a few other teams "sneaking" in, but they are far from +4750/+2000 and imo not even remotely worth the risk. Having wasted far more on far less before, I understand fully what this is and will gladly take a shot. Good luck if anyone decides to throw a few bucks at it!

-5 of last 10 SB Champs have been outside the top 10 defenses (12,17,20,23,25)
-The 3 above champs that were in the 20's defensively had Very good offenses (20/1,23/2,25/9)
-Teams with the #1 or #2 offense in the league have won 35% of all Super Bowls. (47% if 1 or 2 defensively if your wondering)
-Playoff seeding for last 11 years of SB winners. 6,3,5,2,1,6,4,4,1,1,2
-2 of the last 10 SB winners were 8-8 the year before winning it. Guess who was 8-8 last year:0003
-Average age of SB winning QB 30.....Ryan is 31:00x23





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Good news....

Their division looks awful and the nfc looks inferior to the afc at the top

Bad news.....

Didnt they start 6-0 last year and they dont really have a home field advantage, esp in playoffs

At this point they look good but I think they'll need to win their division to make the playoffs and still not ready to bury the panthers
 

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Didnt they start 6-0 last year and they dont really have a home field advantage, esp in playoffs

At this point they look good but I think they'll need to win their division to make the playoffs and still not ready to bury the panthers

The Panthers are done. Their defense isnt the same. Their OLine isnt playing at the level it was last year.

Atlanta should win the division unless they implode again.

The Saints wont win the division but Im anxious to see how they play once Breaux and Rankins come back. The defense could improve a little but I dont think it will be enough to overcome the hole they dug themselves into.

This is Atlanta's time to go deep in the playoffs. Their defense isnt good but if they outscoring opponents every game it wont matter.

I have a future on Pittsburgh. I believe they get there. The NFC is still open with Philadelphia, Dallas, Minnesota, and Atlanta, but Atlanta has the QB. Still alot of football left so we will see what happens. Good luck everyone.
 

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ONE thing 100% superbowl losers as in last year and Broncos vs Seahawks is teams with low ranked S O S

Last year Panthers SOS was ranked fugging 29th Broncos was ranked 12th

Broncos that historical Peyton manning Year S O S was league worst at 32nd and YOUR Key RED Flag was the thurs night HOME LOSS to Div rival chargers and they were home on sunday OMFG

YES I loved every frigging minute of that demoltion of fake Mannings superbowl loss just like the one before when he got smoked by The saints


fugging worst QB rating ever in superbowl history The Loser Cam performed better BUT two costly t o 's BY dummie cam blew the game wide open and Manning scored.
 

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ONE thing 100% superbowl losers as in last year and Broncos vs Seahawks is teams with low ranked S O S

Last year Panthers SOS was ranked fugging 29th Broncos was ranked 12th

Broncos that historical Peyton manning Year S O S was league worst at 32nd and YOUR Key RED Flag was the thurs night HOME LOSS to Div rival chargers and they were home on sunday OMFG

YES I loved every frigging minute of that demoltion of fake Mannings superbowl loss just like the one before when he got smoked by The saints


fugging worst QB rating ever in superbowl history The Loser Cam performed better BUT two costly t o 's BY dummie cam blew the game wide open and Manning scored.

Atlanta Falcons
Strength of Schedule (NFL rank): 0.555 (t-1)

Based on strength of schedule alone, the Falcons have the most difficult roster of games in the league for the 2016 season. And after looking closer, it goes beyond strength of schedule. Aside from two games against the defending NFC champion Carolina Panthers, the Falcons have road games against the Oakland Raiders, Denver Broncos, Seattle Seahawks, and Philadelphia Eagles, and home games against the Green Bay Packers, Arizona Cardinals, and Kansas City Chiefs.

The most daunting part of the Falcons? schedule, though, is the stretch from Week 4 through Week 6, when they will play the Panthers at home, and the Broncos and Seahawks on the road. With this schedule, it will be incredibly hard for the Falcons to close the gap on the rest of the NFC and make a return trip to the postseason.


http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/nfl-toughest-schedule-2016.html/?a=viewall
 

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Can still find +2500 all the way up to +3000. Not what it was but still the best value on the board imo. I suppose if Denver boat races them this weekend you might get a little better odds next week, but if it is a really close game or Atl wins then it is a wrap, these odds will plummet.
 

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thank you uga12

thank you uga12

thanks to you thread of 9/28 I put two future bets with alanta for nfl champs and super bowlchamps 100 for2000 and 100 for 4000 im hedging my nfl champs for now and keeping fingers crossed this weekend also have pats and alanta to play in super bowl 100 for 350 thanks again
 

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thanks to you thread of 9/28 I put two future bets with alanta for nfl champs and super bowlchamps 100 for2000 and 100 for 4000 im hedging my nfl champs for now and keeping fingers crossed this weekend also have pats and alanta to play in super bowl 100 for 350 thanks again

:toast: Glad you got some guaranteed money.

Being a Falcons, Braves, and UGA fan, my heart knows real pain. If GB wins this game I will not sit face in hands wondering how, as it is the norm around here rather than the exception. Having said that I do believe Atlanta wins and would expect it to be by 10+. If something presents itself at the half I may hedge a little, and I will have to find a way to hedge a little if they make the SB, but today we let it ride! Heading to the Georgia Dome one last time. RISE UP FALCONS!
 

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Atlanta Falcons to win SB <<<200 to win 9500>>> (You can get even better number, mine's local)










Atlanta Falcons to win NFC <<<100 to win 2000>>>

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...call of the year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

deliman

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thanks again

thanks again

owe you dinner walked out with 1300 after a hedge whats the best way to hedge this bet got 4000 to work with appreciate the help thanks deliman
 

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Thanks guys. Hard to describe how awesome the atmosphere was in the Dome yesterday. Great way to close it out. Hope the line drops a little so I can get a better number, but I really don't see it happening. Would be foolish not to take some guaranteed money, but I will be letting the large majority ride:0074

Deliman, do what you need to do. If you need the sure money then take it.
 

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Will hedge about a fourth of the play and it will have been a great run regardless of what happens money wise. Having said that, I think the wrong team is favored so I will be letting the large majority ride. I feel the under is a play as well and will have some on that. I have a few props I really like as well and will post them below. Good Luck All!

1 unit each

Freeman over 54.5 rushing -110
Coleman over 33.5 receiving -115
Gabriel Over 51.5 receiving -115

1/2 unit each

Freeman 124+ rushing +800
Coleman 60+ receiving +350
Gabriel 124+ receiving +1500
M. Mitchell TD +190
Freeman MVP +2000
Gabriel MVP +5000



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deliman

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gooooood luck

gooooood luck

good luck uga12 getting very little respect hedged a little myself the rest let it ride good luck its been a fun go Atlanta
 
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