supremes rule in favor of jihadis...

gardenweasel

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just as i predicted in the n.y,t,`s thread...


WASHINGTON - ""The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that President Bush overstepped his authority in ordering military war crimes trials for Guantanamo Bay detainees.

The ruling, a strong rebuke to the administration and its aggressive anti-terror policies, was written by Justice John Paul Stevens, who said the proposed trials were illegal under U.S. law and international Geneva conventions.

The case focused on Salim Ahmed Hamdan, a Yemeni who worked as a bodyguard and driver for Osama bin Laden. Hamdan, 36, has spent four years in the U.S. prison in Cuba. He faces a single count of conspiring against U.S. citizens from 1996 to November 2001.

The ruling raises major questions about the legal status of about 450 men still being held at Guantanamo and exactly how, when and where the administration might pursue the charges against them.

It also seems likely to further fuel international criticism of the administration, including by many U.S. allies, for its handling of the terror war detainees at Guantanamo in Cuba, Abu Ghraib in Iraq and elsewhere.""

as i understand it,the supreme court decision appears to claim that if these individuals are to be tried, they must be tried in federal courts with "geneva convention" protections....

but,strangely, the scotus decision also appears to state that these individuals don't have to be tried at all.....??....they can apparently be detained indefinitely...

maybe i`m wrong,but,i`m getting that the liberal justices have just ruled that the protections of the geneva conventions do, in fact, apply to those the text of the documents specifically exclude: illegal combatants.....

i'm boggled....
 

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gw..

it's very frustrating that some people don't understand who the enemy is.....they are animals who chop off heads or burn people to death.

these terrorists continue to use our "system" to their advantage....

i liken this war to a street fight....when the enemy does not follow any rules then we shouldn't.
 

gardenweasel

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i hear you, bro....

that`s why i had to snear a little this morning at the reporting i heard regarding this decision on the radio...

the drooling morons on a.b.c. radio news declared it a "stinging defeat" for president bush( completely unaware that they're also americans)..... :rolleyes:

we`re in a war...not with a nation...but with an ideology....the left hasn`t been told,apparently...

the constitution isn`t a suicide pact....

according to "justice" kennedy, "Trial by military commission raises separation-of-powers concerns of the highest order," Kennedy wrote in his separate opinion. "Concentration of power (in the executive branch) puts personal liberty in peril of arbitrary action by officials, an incursion the Constitution's three-part system is designed to avoid."


um, excuse me mr. justice kennedy, just what rights to personal liberty and what rights under the u.s. constitution do these "detainees" have since they are neither american citizens,nor were they even taken prisoner in the united states (and therefore lack the protections afforded by the u.s.constitution)?...

do you mean to say that everyone in "the world" has the right to personal liberty guaranteed in the u.s. constitution, even if they've never even set foot in the united states?....and where did you find the judicial authority to make those decisions? ...

this sounds like made up stuff...along with the argument regarding the geneva convention...and unlawful enemy combatants...

ridiculous...

surviving nazis have long argued that the nuremburg trials were illegal and violated the geneva conventions.....this court has just agreed with them.....

can you say reparations for every living nazi relative?

stevens..almost 90 years old....ginsberg can`t stay awake in court...kennedy?...reagan`s rolling over in his grave...a shame on his memory...

osama`s driver: 1.........u.s. gov`t: 0

btw....the scotus also ruled all gitmo detainees are entitled to free access to "new york times select".....lol

clean sweep for mo!!!!

"go stevie...it`s your birthday...go stevie" :em71:
 

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I thought they ruled to keep the power Bush thinks he has. To let him know he does not. In other words they ruled in favor of our rule of law.
 

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whatever, where is Reagan when we need him? these bastards would already be executed.
 

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gardenweasel said:
i hear you, bro....

that`s why i had to snear a little this morning at the reporting i heard regarding this decision on the radio...

the drooling morons on a.b.c. radio news declared it a "stinging defeat" for president bush( completely unaware that they're also americans)..... :rolleyes:

we`re in a war...not with a nation...but with an ideology....the left hasn`t been told,apparently...

the constitution isn`t a suicide pact....

according to "justice" kennedy, "Trial by military commission raises separation-of-powers concerns of the highest order," Kennedy wrote in his separate opinion. "Concentration of power (in the executive branch) puts personal liberty in peril of arbitrary action by officials, an incursion the Constitution's three-part system is designed to avoid."


um, excuse me mr. justice kennedy, just what rights to personal liberty and what rights under the u.s. constitution do these "detainees" have since they are neither american citizens,nor were they even taken prisoner in the united states (and therefore lack the protections afforded by the u.s.constitution)?...

do you mean to say that everyone in "the world" has the right to personal liberty guaranteed in the u.s. constitution, even if they've never even set foot in the united states?....and where did you find the judicial authority to make those decisions? ...

this sounds like made up stuff...along with the argument regarding the geneva convention...and unlawful enemy combatants...

ridiculous...

surviving nazis have long argued that the nuremburg trials were illegal and violated the geneva conventions.....this court has just agreed with them.....

can you say reparations for every living nazi relative?

stevens..almost 90 years old....ginsberg can`t stay awake in court...kennedy?...reagan`s rolling over in his grave...a shame on his memory...

osama`s driver: 1.........u.s. gov`t: 0

btw....the scotus also ruled all gitmo detainees are entitled to free access to "new york times select".....lol

clean sweep for mo!!!!

"go stevie...it`s your birthday...go stevie" :em71:


i know this is a serious issue, but this post was hilarious...gw you need your own show with that commentary
 
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