Sweeping Senate Ethics reforms

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Dennis Byrne Tue Jan 30, 9:30 AM ET


Instead of talking in sweeping platitudes about "ethics reform," Senate Democrats might want to prove they mean it by dumping their ethically challenged majority leader, Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record).
The Nevada lawmaker has been implicated in yet another land scheme that this time could net him a tidy $50,000 to $290,000. Los Angeles Times investigative reporters Chuck Neubauer and Tom Hamburger, this week revealed that Reid paid $166 an acre for valuable northern Arizona land whose market value, according to the county assessor, four years ago was worth $2,144 an acre.

Who would be a big enough fool to sell Reid the land at such a ludicrously low price? A long-time pal who would financially benefit from some obscure legislation that the senator has often sponsored.

It worked like this, according to the Times:

In 2002, Reid (D-Nev.) paid $10,000 to a pension fund controlled by Clair Haycock, a Las Vegas lubricants distributor and his friend of 50 years. The payment gave the senator full control of a 160-acre parcel in Bullhead City that Reid and the pension fund had jointly owned. Reid's price for the equivalent of 60 acres of undeveloped desert was less than one-tenth of the value the assessor placed on it at the time.

Six months after the deal closed, Reid introduced legislation [which failed to pass] to address the plight of lubricants dealers who had their supplies disrupted by the decisions of big oil companies. It was an issue the Haycock family had brought to Reid's attention in 1994, according to a source familiar with the events.

If Reid were to sell the property for any of the various estimates of its value, his gain on the $10,000 investment could range from $50,000 to $290,000.

It is a potential violation of congressional ethics standards for a member to accept anything of value -- including a real estate discount -- from a person with interests before Congress.

Reed apparently prefers to put his gains into dry desert land instead of into cold cash, as did Rep. William Jefferson (news, bio, voting record) (D-La.), whom the
FBI said was harboring $90,000 in marked bills in his home freezer.

Last year the Associated Press disclosed that Reid "collected a $1.1 windfall on a Las Vegas land sale, even though he hadn't personally owned the property for three years." The deal was "engineered by Jay Brown, a longtime friend and former casino lawyer whose name surfaced in a major political bribery trial [last year] and in other organized crime investigations."

Reid and his office have denied any improprieties in these matters. Reid's spokesman noted that the transaction was "a sale, not a gift." The wording of the denial is interesting because Reid is co-sponsoring legislation that would ban "gifts" from lobbyists - or their clients - to lawmakers or their staffs. Reid himself touted that legislation in a Jan. 9 press release, "Reid: The Senate is committed to tough new ethics reform."

In a press release a day earlier ("Senate Democrats highlight commitment to tough new ethics reform"), Reid proclaimed: "The American people demanded change, and Democrats are ready to deliver. The new Democratic Senate is committed to giving American (sic) a government as good--and as honest--as the people it serves. The Senate will start with legislation that is good, and working together, we'll improve it to make it even better. In the end, the Senate will pass the most sweeping reforms since Watergate."

This is exactly the kind of hypocrisy, from both parties, that turns off so many Americans. It a word, it makes Americans vomit.

Let it not go by unnoticed that claiming and getting full credit for this brand of Democratic "ethics reform" is the luminous Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) of Illinois. "Now that the dust has settled and the new Congress is underway," he intoned, "we need to get down to business and show Americans that we are responding to their call for change. We now have the opportunity to give the American people what they deserve and demanded in November--real ethics and lobbying reform that holds their elected officials to the highest ethical standards."

This is from a senator who tromped around Africa, trailed by an adoring throng of media panderers, who condemned corruption there, but had nothing to say about the graft pervading his hometown and state. Quite the contrary, Obama last week endorsed Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley for re-election this spring, even though the suspected, indicted and convicted percolate through his administration like water through a coffee-maker.

You've got to hand it to Reid. With a record like his, to claim that he is the champion of a new day of congressional ethics takes a lot of brass. He could prove it by resigning. Or Democrats could prove it by giving him the heave-ho as majority leader.
 

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I just found out this week that Reid was the real-life basis for the gaming commissioner in "Casino". That guy was an ass.
 

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The hang up and you can see it coming. The assessor said land worth 2000. The two parties making deal decided it as much less. And money was exchanged it was not free. I don't think this game that has gone on for years is right. But I see this answer way out there in left field headed home.
 

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How about we just get the damn ethics thing passed and then worry about possibly going after this Reid land deal that's been old news for several months. Yes, it definitely is more important to make the "sweeping" changes than it is to go after this trivial land deal. Anybody who owned land in Vegas made a killing over the last 10 years. Who cares about such an insignificant (marginal at best) transgression. Isn't the bigger picture of overall reform much more important? So far, it's only Republicans holding this thing up. Why is that?
 
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10 thousand 20 thousand 90 thousand 200 thousand yet when it comes to billions being stolen in Iraq, New Orleans it doesn't seem to bother some of you.

4 contracts were giving out to Bushes buddies all no bid contracts in New Orleans all for 100 million each. The cost of these are now over 3.2 billion. Where is the outrage for something this despicable? He found a need to suspend the Davis Bacon act (to pay a prevailing wage) so these thieves could pay anything they want. What they do is hire illegal immigrants as well as immigrants and then they screwed them to. Now New Orleans is stuck with a bunch of immigrants that have no place to go. Any outrage by you neocons? Now this is real money and our tax paying dollars but you Neocons must have a different tax dollar then the rest of us. Cry about this petty cash all you want when real money is being stolen right from under your nose and once again you are to foolish to acknowledge this.
 

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New Orleans is a dump and was the murder capital of the US before the water came. Now the criminals are doing their act in many other large cities across the country and you are the only one still crying about what was a cesspool to begin with. Most of the money (about half from what they are saying on the radio) was lost locally. Most likely had nothing to do with an administration many levels above the application of the funds.

If I had the inclination and time, I'd take a shovel and start digging around many of what were the worse areas of NO. I'm sure I'd find stashes of all sorts.
 

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Sponge,
Before you make a documented fool of yourself, please check what the Davis Bacon Act is and how, when and why it is used.
 

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New Orleans is a dump and was the murder capital of the US before the water came. Now the criminals are doing their act in many other large cities across the country and you are the only one still crying about what was a cesspool to begin with. Most of the money (about half from what they are saying on the radio) was lost locally. Most likely had nothing to do with an administration many levels above the application of the funds.

If I had the inclination and time, I'd take a shovel and start digging around many of what were the worse areas of NO. I'm sure I'd find stashes of all sorts.

and ain`t it funny how you don`t hear a peep from haley barber down in mississippi?......they got hit pretty damned hard down there themselves......but they seem to be getting through it.....

all you have to do look at the people new orlean-ers elect to represent them....

landreu/nagin and the guy that hides his corruption money in the freezer....actually reelecting nagin and "cold cash" after the fact....

you reap what you sow...
 

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On September 7, 2005, President George W. Bush, citing a "national emergency", again suspended the Act in the areas of Alabama, Florida, Louisiana and Mississippi ravaged by Hurricane Katrina.

On October 26, 2005, after pressure from both Democrats and Republicans, Bush rescinded his emergency order and restored the prevailing wage requirement


yup, those 50 days of non DB Act are what ruined the economy there and resulted in the raping of contract workers. yup.

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So to make it easy for you. DBA rules would pay 22.09 per hour for an electrician, PLUS $6.75/hr for the first 40 hours for benefits.
that puts a 40 hour per week worker at $28.84/hr
or, $59,987 per year.

meanwhile, looking at the current market trends for that same electrician at salary.com and salarywizard.com.... it shows the average pay to be 40k a year and the top 10th percentile to be at 50k per year.

I'm not going to spell out the conclusions that should be drawn here sponge. i HOPE you can figure out.
 

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New Orleans is a dump and was the murder capital of the US before the water came. Now the criminals are doing their act in many other large cities across the country and you are the only one still crying about what was a cesspool to begin with. Most of the money (about half from what they are saying on the radio) was lost locally. Most likely had nothing to do with an administration many levels above the application of the funds.

If I had the inclination and time, I'd take a shovel and start digging around many of what were the worse areas of NO. I'm sure I'd find stashes of all sorts.

Again there are billions of our tax paying dollars being stolen over there by your leaders friends but all you seem to care about are black people stealing televisons. 4 contracts each 100 million now over 3.2 billion. This is real money.
 

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Sponge,
Before you make a documented fool of yourself, please check what the Davis Bacon Act is and how, when and why it is used.

Ah Marine boy i think i know a little about the Davis Bacon act since i worked for the carpenters union for 15 years. The bottom line 4 no bid contracts 100 million each are now up to 3.2 billion and climbing. This is real money and i ask you why did this scumbag who u lick his nuts suspend the Davis Bacon act for in the first place?
Why don't you put your misguided energy where some real money is being stolen instead of this petty cash?
 

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yeah

that's what I said

Thanks for the chat

later

That is basically what you were hinting at among other things. As i see once again the blinded sheep says "Most likely had nothing to do with an administration". Doesn't it get tiring to constantly stick up for these assholes or do you like looking like a fool?
 

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Ah Marine boy i think i know a little about the Davis Bacon act since i worked for the carpenters union for 15 years. The bottom line 4 no bid contracts 100 million each are now up to 3.2 billion and climbing. This is real money and i ask you why did this scumbag who u lick his nuts suspend the Davis Bacon act for in the first place?
Why don't you put your misguided energy where some real money is being stolen instead of this petty cash?

wow. And I've only audited 2 different contracted government worksites for Davis Bacon Act compliance.

I retract my "misguided opinions" and defer to your expert knowledge.

Here, suspension of the act has been done before too. and gee.. one of them was from Hurricane Andrew. Another was to curb inflation. I'd point out the trend, but hopefully its obvious.

Suspensions

In 1934 President Franklin Roosevelt suspended the Act for three weeks in order to manage administrative adjustments in light of the New Deal.

The Davis-Bacon Act was suspended by President Richard Nixon for 28 days in February 1971 in an effort to reduce inflation pressures. Labor Secretary Peter J. Brennan accused the Nixon administration of treating construction workers as patsies. Shortly afterward, Nixon reinstated Davis-Bacon enforcement and ordered the establishment of the Construction Industry Stabilization Committee.

In September 1992 President George H. W. Bush indefinitely suspended the Davis-Bacon Act during the recovery from Hurricane Andrew in 1992. After Bill Clinton became president, he reinstated the Act in March 1993.

On September 7, 2005, President George W. Bush, citing a "national emergency", again suspended the Act in the areas of Alabama, Florida, Louisiana and Mississippi ravaged by Hurricane Katrina.
 

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sponge, y u gotta be fukn up good arguments all the time?

i sorta trust marine on these factual topics. how did ethics reform get centered on katrina and l'siana? L'sana is FUKED. cant pin that shit on the feds. nagin, jefferson, bianco are all worthless. add a worthless president and it was the perfect storm. FK bush FK nagin FK bianco FK jefferson. i'm sorry for any decent honest person from louisiana ...cuz they got fuked by evryone in gvmt. embarassing to be an american, frankly.
 

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hmm even liberal media chiming in now--



Media Attention

The mainstream media is starting to weigh in on the latest reporting about the investment practices of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. The Los Angeles Times Sunday reported that the Nevada Democrat paid $10,000 five years ago to obtain full control of a 160-acre parcel in northern Arizona that could be worth up to $300,000.

The Times says Reid then sponsored legislation that would have been helpful to the businessman who sold him the land. This follows an Associated Press story about another land deal a few weeks ago. Reid's office says the land deal was perfectly legitimate.

But a Chicago Tribune editorial is titled, "Harry Reid, Land Shark" and calls the sale "unseemly." The Orlando Sentinel's editorial is titled "No Role Model" and says ? "if they are serious about ethics, Senate Democrats need to find a more deserving standard bearer." The New York Sun calls it "Reid's whitewater" and "a corker of a controversy."

and whats with the pork---

Crying Foul

House Republicans are crying foul over the Democrats' $463.5 billion bill passed today that funds domestic programs for the rest of the fiscal year. Republicans say it contains $500 million in earmarks ? special funding that Democrats promised to eliminate ? such as almost $45 million for a tropical rain forest biosphere in Iowa and $266 million for Department of Energy projects that Republicans canceled last year.

One Republican today called the bill "a hooker dressed up like a nun." Democrats say the bill includes previously funded earmarks but no new ones, although House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey told the Washington Post, "I don't love this proposal and we probably have made some wrong choices."

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I think by 08 --we will all agree--doesn't make any diff who is in power--politicians from both sides are equally corrupt
 
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