teams the public loves to hate
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I think your right MJ. People are tired of listening to Sharpe flap his gums and not back it up on the field anymore. And most people think that Ray Lewis is a thug and Brian Billick is pompous and condesending. I know I hate them. ( Not just because they beat the Giants last year) I do like the "Goose" because hes funny as shit.
I don't think the Ravens hatred will last, because I don't see them being a super power for years to come.
I don't think the Ravens hatred will last, because I don't see them being a super power for years to come.
I agree with scrubbo on Sharpe, Lewis & Billick, but I really hate Baltimore because they use to be one of the storied franchises in the history of the NFL until Modell (the asshole) moved them.
Then we were without a team for 4 years and now are just getting back to some kind of respectability, but they will never be the Brownies of old.
F*** Modell and the camel he rides on.:moon:
Then we were without a team for 4 years and now are just getting back to some kind of respectability, but they will never be the Brownies of old.
F*** Modell and the camel he rides on.:moon:
i know how you feel, ctown. Irsay stole our colts by sneaking away in the middle of the night after having mayor shaffer thinking he was going to stay. he took the team, the name, the colors, the trophies, the whole shooting match, the prick!
ctownguy said:I agree with scrubbo on Sharpe, Lewis & Billick, but I really hate Baltimore because they use to be one of the storied franchises in the history of the NFL until Modell (the asshole) moved them.
Then we were without a team for 4 years and now are just getting back to some kind of respectability, but they will never be the Brownies of old.
F*** Modell and the camel he rides on.:moon:
Ctown,
Believe me, i'm wit ya in regard to your opinion of the Artful Dodger. There is nobody in sports that I despise more.
He was weak financially (amazingly after the deal he got with Baltimore, he still is, and will sell out his controlling interest within 2 yrs because of this) , and tried to blackmail the city for a new stadium after he saw that Gund and Jacobs field were being approved/built.
When he had to take out a loan to pay for Andre Rison's signing bonus in 1995 (Browns were out for 3 yrs, not 4), it should have been clear to all of us that he was in no position to own a team any longer.
Whatever the case, he should have sold the team and not moved it. There is no better argument for this than the sorry financial state that he STILL finds himself in, even after the incredible deal he got with Baltimore. New stadium. PSL's. Incredible lease termsl. Ect ect. It wasn't as if he was 'saving himself', like he was trying to portray. He is not strong enough financially to own a team, and hasn't been for 8 or 9 years.
I'm with you, man. I was totally devastated when they left.
That said, there were some good things that came out of it. And some things that could have been much worse.
First and foremost, due mainly to Michael White, and to some extent George Voinovich, the Browns got to keep their records, colors, name. Really, they(we?) got to preserve tradition, and as i'm sure you remember, that was no gimme. A HUGE effort by Cleveland's mayor(White), Ohio's governor(Voinovich) and the incredible fans of Cleveland threatened life/limb/lawsuits until Modell finally gave up. Not that he was fighting it THAT much. Can you imagine how much worse it would be if we were watching Baltimore play in brown and orange? I can certainly feel for Baltimore Colt fans who have/had to stomach seeing their logo associated with the team from Indy. Same goes for the Rams and every other team that has ever moved. Nobody has ever retained their identity like the Browns did.
The Browns also got a brand new stadium (beautiful-hopefully you have been able to make it there) as a result of the move. It never would have happened in the Modell era. In that respect, he did us a favor by moving, because frankly the city/state government took the Browns for granted. They didn't think it could ever happen. No way would they move. When it did happen, it took about 2 months before a brand new stadium was approved. All the talk about it not being as 'rowdy' in the Dawg Pound may have been quieted after the 2nd Jacksonville game. But that's another story.
In addition, the Browns now have a billionaire owner, as opposed to Modell, who hung on a few years too long not being able to afford a team.
The way Modell fired Paul Brown was classless and the way he fled was disgraceful. I will admit that in between, he was Cleveland football.
But the bottom line is that, with him knowing that he couldn't afford a professional franchise, even under the best conditions (in Baltimore, great deal, many investors ect ect) he couldn't make it financially, he chose to rip a city apart instead of selling to somebody who COULD afford it. Other than the SB ring, he has gained nothing from this money-wise. He's in worse shape than he was in Cleveland.
Jesus-rant over.
Kosar,
After reading your rant, I feel much better No kidding you made some great points, it's true that we (they) were very fortunate to retain the name colors etc., which unfortunetly Jack's Colts were not able to do.
Sad to say since moving out west I have not been back to the ole city to see either new stadium, but know they are fantastic.
They say what goes around comes around and Modell is just getting what he deserves. My question is how can he not be making money, with the deals he got he should have been set, not that I'm complaining about his troubles:thefinger
I had forgotten about the Paul Brown situation, but he also got his revenge as the Bengals regularly kicked our ass while he was in Cincy.
Once again, great info about the whole situation, looking forward to the 2002 Butch Davis version of the Browns.
See ya in march:toast:
After reading your rant, I feel much better
No kidding you made some great points, it's true that we (they) were very fortunate to retain the name colors etc., which unfortunetly Jack's Colts were not able to do.Sad to say since moving out west I have not been back to the ole city to see either new stadium, but know they are fantastic.
They say what goes around comes around and Modell is just getting what he deserves. My question is how can he not be making money, with the deals he got he should have been set, not that I'm complaining about his troubles:thefinger
I had forgotten about the Paul Brown situation, but he also got his revenge as the Bengals regularly kicked our ass while he was in Cincy.
Once again, great info about the whole situation, looking forward to the 2002 Butch Davis version of the Browns.
See ya in march:toast:
Jack in this first round i think that each can go either way, pretty tough to choose on my part, ill be taking all 4 unders , and only one side that i've been loving all week. Baltimore +2.5
#1 Cowboys
Cowboys are just absolutely LOATHED by the media here in Houston . Makes it tough to be a Cowboy fan here.......
Other places I have been/lived people either love em or hate em too. Gotta be the most hated team in America.......but also the most loved........lol
Cowboys are just absolutely LOATHED by the media here in Houston . Makes it tough to be a Cowboy fan here.......
Other places I have been/lived people either love em or hate em too. Gotta be the most hated team in America.......but also the most loved........lol
I have to agree with some of the others here that the Cowgirls are the most hated team. Especially where I am (an hour from Buffalo). I find that the ignorant football fans in my section of Canada here generally love Dallas but the avid, knowledgeable fans loathe them.
The Cowboys and the Raiders have definately controlled the despise market for a long time but things change over time. Since the Cowboys are a non-factor, in terms of a competitive program, the hatred turns more into a dislike.
Five years ago I hated the Cowboys, Irvin, Smith, and Aikman. Now, I could care less about Irvin, I root for Smith and I want Aikman to comeback. I still want the Cowboys to lose and Jerry Jones is an :moon: but, being a Giants fan, I hate the Eagles more then the Pokes.
Five years ago I hated the Cowboys, Irvin, Smith, and Aikman. Now, I could care less about Irvin, I root for Smith and I want Aikman to comeback. I still want the Cowboys to lose and Jerry Jones is an :moon: but, being a Giants fan, I hate the Eagles more then the Pokes.
