Teams who could be a little disappointed this season.

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I still am not sold on Kap and the passing game. The defense is stout but they could easily take a step back. The entire NFC is improving in my opinion and a road game against Denver, the rest of their AFC schedule should be manageable but these games could provide them some fits.

Arizona home and away
Seattle home and away
San Diego'
@Denver
Philadelphia
@ NY Giants
@ New Orleans

Green Bay -

Everyone knows I can't stand this team in the first place. Can't understand all the lofty expectations for this club. Yes they have Aaron Rodgers who is the best QB in the NFC and possibly the game. They did lose a little bit in passing game with the loss of Finley and James Jones but Boykins and Rodgers should be OK. The early loss of JC Tratter and an unproven offensive line could pose problems in the backfield. Eddie Lacy is impressive and can catch the ball out of the backfield which could ease the pass rush, but they still have that pain in the ass, the defense..

The Defense has been poor for 3 seasons and for the most part much of it is back, they put a band aid on it with Peppers, and drafted a safety in Dix, Packer fans are already placing Dix in the pro bowl, lets be reminded he came from a Alabama Unit that is very talented plus we haven't seen what he can do in the open field yet. Their run defense isn't very good and the loss of Raji doesn't help below average interior linebackers Hawk and Jones one bit. Plus we don't know if Hawk is on his downside as teams game plan for him and he takes some licks and has a hard time staying on the field.

The NFC North teams are improving and the schedule is daunting. The Packer have only beat one team outside of the division who finished the season with a winning record past two seasons and that was the Houston Texans. They did beat Minny and Chico twice two seasons ago but they have 10 losses, granted Rodgers was out half the season but they lost to those teams with him.

@ Seattle
Chicago twice
Detroit Twice
@Miami
@New Orleans
Philadelphia
New England
Minny Twice

The Schedule isn't so easy.


Kansas City -

Not a fan of Alex Smith or the defense but last year they played a weak schedule, their schedule is much tougher this year and I expect Smith to struggle.

St Louis -

Not going out on a limb here with Bradford out but I would have said the same with him. Who do they have on offense? Austin? No real weapons. They are going to be bad. Although you never know with Fisher as the coach.

Minnesota -

Depends on how you view the team, nobody outside Minny expects much but those who are fans expect big improvements this season they are much improved but the schedule is a kick in the ass. As I have said Detroit and Chico should be improved and Vikes split with them last year. They got a gift tie with the Pack cause Rodgers was out but they lose an inept coaching staff and replace it with good experienced coaches and come back with the offense intact

Green Bay twice
Chicago Twice
Detroit Twice
New England
@ New Orleans
@ Miami

They are going to need some upsets along the way to have a good seaso
 

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WTF happened to all the Packer fans on this site? Did another one and done in the playoffs last season keep them in hiding. Fuck the fans here are ready for the annual circle jerk. After all a couple fans told me the Defense is just fine, look at how well they played during preseason. Can't make that shit up. The only fans who take Preseason seriously are Packer fans and women. When the Pack lost to the Titans late in first game there were fans in the bar who were legitimately upset about the loss and couldn't believe they "blew that lead." :mj07:

Poolplayer must of took his banning a while back very hard cause he would have been all over my shit by now. Nothing from Pocket Aces either. I am sure YYZ will chime in eventually.
 

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Samo, samo. Typical Viking fan. So hopeful, yet almost certain to have another disappointing year. Why bother commenting when the hate you have for the Packers will prevent reasonable discussion.

I don't really care what happens with the Packers. I just hope they beat the Vikings twice and that the Vikings finish last in the division.
 

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Samo, samo. Typical Viking fan. So hopeful, yet almost certain to have another disappointing year. Why bother commenting when the hate you have for the Packers will prevent reasonable discussion.

I don't really care what happens with the Packers. I just hope they beat the Vikings twice and that the Vikings finish last in the division.

You don't think that this was reasonable discussion? Do you think the Packers are a 12 - 4 team like some of the pundits have them? Do you think their defense has improved enough to get over the hump? Do you think the other teams in the division have improved too? Is the schedule on paper more difficult this year than past? You don't see any possibility of the Packers slipping a little this year? I think there definitely is a possibility, they start out with 3 out of 4 road games. I don't give them much of a chance in Seattle with a rookie center getting his first start in that environment.
 

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Samo, samo. Typical Viking fan. So hopeful, yet almost certain to have another disappointing year. Why bother commenting when the hate you have for the Packers will prevent reasonable discussion.

I don't really care what happens with the Packers. I just hope they beat the Vikings twice and that the Vikings finish last in the division.

You don't think the Vikings are improved from last year. My expectations are reasonable. I am thinking 8 - 8 and hopefully they get a chance to groom Teddy.

I would take the Vikings roster over Green Bays except one position unfortunately it's the best position on the board.
 

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I would be surprised if any team in this division wins 12 games. I think every team in the division improved this year, including the Packers. Because they have Rodgers, they are the favorite in the division. However, holding home field in division games this year will be critical to winning the division.

I think that 8-8 for the Vikings is a reach, but if they can pull out a couple of close ones, it could happen. They have AP and one of the best kickers, so that's a plus. We'll see.

GL. I just like to get you going, because you are always trying to rile up the Packer fans!
 

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I would be surprised if any team in this division wins 12 games. I think every team in the division improved this year, including the Packers. Because they have Rodgers, they are the favorite in the division. However, holding home field in division games this year will be critical to winning the division.

I think that 8-8 for the Vikings is a reach, but if they can pull out a couple of close ones, it could happen. They have AP and one of the best kickers, so that's a plus. We'll see.

GL. I just like to get you going, because you are always trying to rile up the Packer fans!

hahahaha

The Vikings biggest pluses are the entire O line is back and intact. They have better coaching. Corderelle Patterson and Jennings are in second years on team. Rudolph is healthy and they tried to revamp the secondary with Smith and Captain coming in. They should definitely move the ball but stopping someone maybe trouble.
 

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WTF happened to all the Packer fans on this site? Did another one and done in the playoffs last season keep them in hiding. Fuck the fans here are ready for the annual circle jerk. After all a couple fans told me the Defense is just fine, look at how well they played during preseason. Can't make that shit up. The only fans who take Preseason seriously are Packer fans and women. When the Pack lost to the Titans late in first game there were fans in the bar who were legitimately upset about the loss and couldn't believe they "blew that lead." :mj07:

Poolplayer must of took his banning a while back very hard cause he would have been all over my shit by now. Nothing from Pocket Aces either. I am sure YYZ will chime in eventually.

Sorry for not chiming in with a pro-packer response so you can justify your fantasy in your head some more.
So rather than waste time arguing about how good or bad the packers are I will say this:
The vikings suck.
They suck balls.
No one cares about the vikings.
As a packer fan, I don't even watch the vikings\packer game because it's just like a bye week for us - boring.
Listening to your schtick is like listening to a 8 year old soccer team saying "but this time we only lost by 14, so we are getting way better;"
 

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Annual Viqueen/Packer bet?

Annual Viqueen/Packer bet?

Trevor,

I know both teams win more than my Cows, but I will bet you Packers finish with a better record than Queens...what should the stakes be?
 

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WTF happened to all the Packer fans on this site? Did another one and done in the playoffs last season keep them in hiding. Fuck the fans here are ready for the annual circle jerk. After all a couple fans told me the Defense is just fine, look at how well they played during preseason. Can't make that shit up. The only fans who take Preseason seriously are Packer fans and women. When the Pack lost to the Titans late in first game there were fans in the bar who were legitimately upset about the loss and couldn't believe they "blew that lead." :mj07:

Poolplayer must of took his banning a while back very hard cause he would have been all over my shit by now. Nothing from Pocket Aces either. I am sure YYZ will chime in eventually.

BP..How ya been man.....What fans are you talking about that take pre season seriously?? Every knows pre season is a joke and means squat. I do get a kick out of your ramblings all the time...i would be pissed as well if my team sucked like yours doesI do find it funny u rag on GB a lot....Fun stat for ya...Name the ONLT team in NFL that has made playoffs last 4 years and on a SB??? Yes Green bay....so you can rag on the all you want about last couple years but at least they get in playoffs and did win a SB. You would take Viqueens roster over GB except for Rodger being better than your QB?? Rodgers missed 7 games last year and they still won the division..What does that say about your queens and the rest of division??? I have no idea what happens this season with GB.. I expect a solid year BUt i do know what happens i queen country..They are locked in for last place. That's my LOCK OF THE YEAR BP.....
 

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I still am not sold on Kap and the passing game. The defense is stout but they could easily take a step back. The entire NFC is improving in my opinion and a road game against Denver, the rest of their AFC schedule should be manageable but these games could provide them some fits.

Arizona home and away
Seattle home and away
San Diego'
@Denver
Philadelphia
@ NY Giants
@ New Orleans

Green Bay -

Everyone knows I can't stand this team in the first place. Can't understand all the lofty expectations for this club. Yes they have Aaron Rodgers who is the best QB in the NFC and possibly the game. They did lose a little bit in passing game with the loss of Finley and James Jones but Boykins and Rodgers should be OK. The early loss of JC Tratter and an unproven offensive line could pose problems in the backfield. Eddie Lacy is impressive and can catch the ball out of the backfield which could ease the pass rush, but they still have that pain in the ass, the defense..

The Defense has been poor for 3 seasons and for the most part much of it is back, they put a band aid on it with Peppers, and drafted a safety in Dix, Packer fans are already placing Dix in the pro bowl, lets be reminded he came from a Alabama Unit that is very talented plus we haven't seen what he can do in the open field yet. Their run defense isn't very good and the loss of Raji doesn't help below average interior linebackers Hawk and Jones one bit. Plus we don't know if Hawk is on his downside as teams game plan for him and he takes some licks and has a hard time staying on the field.

The NFC North teams are improving and the schedule is daunting. The Packer have only beat one team outside of the division who finished the season with a winning record past two seasons and that was the Houston Texans. They did beat Minny and Chico twice two seasons ago but they have 10 losses, granted Rodgers was out half the season but they lost to those teams with him.

@ Seattle
Chicago twice
Detroit Twice
@Miami
@New Orleans
Philadelphia
New England
Minny Twice

The Schedule isn't so easy.


Kansas City -

Not a fan of Alex Smith or the defense but last year they played a weak schedule, their schedule is much tougher this year and I expect Smith to struggle.

St Louis -

Not going out on a limb here with Bradford out but I would have said the same with him. Who do they have on offense? Austin? No real weapons. They are going to be bad. Although you never know with Fisher as the coach.

Minnesota -

Depends on how you view the team, nobody outside Minny expects much but those who are fans expect big improvements this season they are much improved but the schedule is a kick in the ass. As I have said Detroit and Chico should be improved and Vikes split with them last year. They got a gift tie with the Pack cause Rodgers was out but they lose an inept coaching staff and replace it with good experienced coaches and come back with the offense intact

Green Bay twice
Chicago Twice
Detroit Twice
New England
@ New Orleans
@ Miami

They are going to need some upsets along the way to have a good seaso

ho are these "fans" u talk about that think preseason means something and are putting Dix in pro bowl?? u must have diff fans where u live cus NOT ONE around here think that way......Your HATE for Gb makes u say some really dumb things BP....Like Lacy will be a bust?? good call on that one LOL I just don't get the ragging on them year in and year out..Is it cus your queens have never won nothing and suck many years??? I just don't get the stupid talk about GB..I really don't. They obviosuly do something right with all the titles, playoff appearances and division titles.....
 

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Here's the deal.

Are the Packers better than Minnesota, why yes they are, have been for 20 years, they have had the best QB situation forever. If Vikings had Rodgers they would win division hands down. Their roster outside of QB is better than Green Bays and it's not debatable IMO.

Marine.. Packers haven't swept the Vikings in 3 years

As for the fans.. Yes it must be different here because they are talking Super Bowl and "Look how good the first string defense has been in the preseason." Just to get rolleyes from me. They are bragging up Dix like he's the next Ronnie Lott. Big talk from the Northern WI folk how they are going to roll into Seattle and win like Seattle is some chump. A few fans have told me, "you haven't been watching the preseason have you?" My answer is no.

For the Eddie Lacy bust prediction it had more to do with Green Bay not having a very good offensive line and the fact he came from Alabama. Bama running backs usually do not fair well. I was wrong, Lacy has proven to be more than adequate with a lot of toughness and under rated coming from the backfield.

I do not always rag the Packers, I predicted them to win in 2010 and had them repeating in 2011. I have correctly picked their season over under for past 5 years.

As for ragging on the Packers the past few seasons, You Packer fans do not think they deserve to be ragged on? They won the Super Bowl had the building blocks to build a dynasty but have done nothing but regress since then. If winning the division and being 1 and done the past 3 years after winning a Super Bowl in 2010 is the goal then Rock On. The Packers deserve to be ripped, they have fielded a shit defense for years and again this year they try to put a bandaid on it. The defense is going to suck again but most Packer fans here are expecting a complete turnaround and a playoff appearance, just look at the pre season.
 

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Here's the deal.

Are the Packers better than Minnesota, why yes they are, have been for 20 years, they have had the best QB situation forever. If Vikings had Rodgers they would win division hands down. Their roster outside of QB is better than Green Bays and it's not debatable IMO.

Marine.. Packers haven't swept the Vikings in 3 years

As for the fans.. Yes it must be different here because they are talking Super Bowl and "Look how good the first string defense has been in the preseason." Just to get rolleyes from me. They are bragging up Dix like he's the next Ronnie Lott. Big talk from the Northern WI folk how they are going to roll into Seattle and win like Seattle is some chump. A few fans have told me, "you haven't been watching the preseason have you?" My answer is no.

For the Eddie Lacy bust prediction it had more to do with Green Bay not having a very good offensive line and the fact he came from Alabama. Bama running backs usually do not fair well. I was wrong, Lacy has proven to be more than adequate with a lot of toughness and under rated coming from the backfield.

I do not always rag the Packers, I predicted them to win in 2010 and had them repeating in 2011. I have correctly picked their season over under for past 5 years.

As for ragging on the Packers the past few seasons, You Packer fans do not think they deserve to be ragged on? They won the Super Bowl had the building blocks to build a dynasty but have done nothing but regress since then. If winning the division and being 1 and done the past 3 years after winning a Super Bowl in 2010 is the goal then Rock On. The Packers deserve to be ripped, they have fielded a shit defense for years and again this year they try to put a bandaid on it. The defense is going to suck again but most Packer fans here are expecting a complete turnaround and a playoff appearance, just look at the pre season.

It's great to win the shitty North year after year, it must suck though to get bounced immediately with the best QB in the NFC. If I were a Packer fan, I would be pissed with their attempts at improving a defense they already know is horse shit. Past 2 season the packers have won 5 games against teams who finished with a winning record in 2012 they beat minny twice (playoff win was 1) Chicago twice and the Texans. All others were losses. They can beat up on the division but outside of it, they can't beat anyone who is any good. I can give them a little pass cause Rodgers was hurt last year
 

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Green Bay -

Everyone knows I can't stand this team in the first place. Can't understand all the lofty expectations for this club. Yes they have Aaron Rodgers who is the best QB in the NFC and possibly the game. They did lose a little bit in passing game with the loss of Finley and James Jones but Boykins and Rodgers should be OK. The early loss of JC Tratter and an unproven offensive line could pose problems in the backfield. Eddie Lacy is impressive and can catch the ball out of the backfield which could ease the pass rush, but they still have that pain in the ass, the defense..

The Defense has been poor for 3 seasons and for the most part much of it is back, they put a band aid on it with Peppers, and drafted a safety in Dix, Packer fans are already placing Dix in the pro bowl, lets be reminded he came from a Alabama Unit that is very talented plus we haven't seen what he can do in the open field yet. Their run defense isn't very good and the loss of Raji doesn't help below average interior linebackers Hawk and Jones one bit. Plus we don't know if Hawk is on his downside as teams game plan for him and he takes some licks and has a hard time staying on the field.

The NFC North teams are improving and the schedule is daunting. The Packer have only beat one team outside of the division who finished the season with a winning record past two seasons and that was the Houston Texans. They did beat Minny and Chico twice two seasons ago but they have 10 losses, granted Rodgers was out half the season but they lost to those teams with him.

@ Seattle
Chicago twice
Detroit Twice
@Miami
@New Orleans
Philadelphia
New England
Minny Twice

The Schedule isn't so easy.

The above is a fantasy, I am saying it could happen, its a real possibility. Their defense does suck, their O Line has been shaky and they are starting a rookie center. They don't have the same offensive weapons.
 

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Here's the deal.

Are the Packers better than Minnesota, why yes they are, have been for 20 years, they have had the best QB situation forever. If Vikings had Rodgers they would win division hands down. Their roster outside of QB is better than Green Bays and it's not debatable IMO.

Marine.. Packers haven't swept the Vikings in 3 years

As for the fans.. Yes it must be different here because they are talking Super Bowl and "Look how good the first string defense has been in the preseason." Just to get rolleyes from me. They are bragging up Dix like he's the next Ronnie Lott. Big talk from the Northern WI folk how they are going to roll into Seattle and win like Seattle is some chump. A few fans have told me, "you haven't been watching the preseason have you?" My answer is no.

For the Eddie Lacy bust prediction it had more to do with Green Bay not having a very good offensive line and the fact he came from Alabama. Bama running backs usually do not fair well. I was wrong, Lacy has proven to be more than adequate with a lot of toughness and under rated coming from the backfield.

I do not always rag the Packers, I predicted them to win in 2010 and had them repeating in 2011. I have correctly picked their season over under for past 5 years.

As for ragging on the Packers the past few seasons, You Packer fans do not think they deserve to be ragged on? They won the Super Bowl had the building blocks to build a dynasty but have done nothing but regress since then. If winning the division and being 1 and done the past 3 years after winning a Super Bowl in 2010 is the goal then Rock On. The Packers deserve to be ripped, they have fielded a shit defense for years and again this year they try to put a bandaid on it. The defense is going to suck again but most Packer fans here are expecting a complete turnaround and a playoff appearance, just look at the pre season.

You ae way off base here.....The Giants win a SB and miss playoff next year cus they're awful..Ravens win SB and miss playoffs next year....Sorry but we are in a time where teams just don't win SB's year after years...Just not happening......Sorry but last 4 years..4 playoffs..division titles and a SB is awesome......I don't expect them to win e very year..It's flat out impossible. If your Viqueens did what GB did last 4 years you would be pumped up big time but they haven't..They suck as always......I can name 31 teams if u want that would take what GB has done last 4 years over what they're team did....It's that simple..You're really reaching here trying to rip Gb apart here. You say the O-line has sucked and D has sucked yet all 3 years made playoffs.....Viqueens D sucks and they have been shit last 3 years except for one playoff when GB stomped a mud hole in them. You're Northern wisconsin buddies have no clue..They must just like talking shit about GB...i am realistic..They are solid and have a shot to compete and make a run.....Minny on other hand will blow more than a prostitute on a Saturday night. How do u know GB D will suck this year?? how about we let it play out and see...I Guess since your team has sucked pretty much forever and wears a ladies color you are mad and take it out on other fans and teams...
 

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You ae way off base here.....The Giants win a SB and miss playoff next year cus they're awful..Ravens win SB and miss playoffs next year....Sorry but we are in a time where teams just don't win SB's year after years...Just not happening......Sorry but last 4 years..4 playoffs..division titles and a SB is awesome......I don't expect them to win e very year..It's flat out impossible. If your Viqueens did what GB did last 4 years you would be pumped up big time but they haven't..They suck as always......I can name 31 teams if u want that would take what GB has done last 4 years over what they're team did....It's that simple..You're really reaching here trying to rip Gb apart here. You say the O-line has sucked and D has sucked yet all 3 years made playoffs.....Viqueens D sucks and they have been shit last 3 years except for one playoff when GB stomped a mud hole in them. You're Northern wisconsin buddies have no clue..They must just like talking shit about GB...i am realistic..They are solid and have a shot to compete and make a run.....Minny on other hand will blow more than a prostitute on a Saturday night. How do u know GB D will suck this year?? how about we let it play out and see...I Guess since your team has sucked pretty much forever and wears a ladies color you are mad and take it out on other fans and teams...

Giants and Ravens teams were decimated with age, free agency, and salary cap, Green Bay was young with good cap number and Green Bay stood pat. How do I know the defense will suck? The same reason why I knew they would suck last year and the year before. They have a soft d line and terrible linebackers with a soft secondary. Nothing has changed? Wash rinse repeat. Like i said if you want to be pumped about another division title and no real chance to compete with the big boys then more power to yah. Ted Thompson had dropped the ball past few seasons by not bringing in players and having poor drafts. Aaron Rodgers has bailed his ass! If you don't think the defense and Oline have sucked then you are delusional. You could see that last year when they didn't have Rodgers to bail them out. You could see exactly how weak the roster is.


Now I can write a 500 page documentary about the Vikings and how inept their management has been, from hiring shit coaches to stuffing Ponder down the fan's throat but the new coaching regime, has a good young roster which shows me they are heading in the right direction. If Teddy turns out to be the future then they have a good roster around him going forward. It's a BIG if
 

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You ae way off base here.....The Giants win a SB and miss playoff next year cus they're awful..Ravens win SB and miss playoffs next year....Sorry but we are in a time where teams just don't win SB's year after years...Just not happening......Sorry but last 4 years..4 playoffs..division titles and a SB is awesome......I don't expect them to win e very year..It's flat out impossible. If your Viqueens did what GB did last 4 years you would be pumped up big time but they haven't..They suck as always......I can name 31 teams if u want that would take what GB has done last 4 years over what they're team did....It's that simple..You're really reaching here trying to rip Gb apart here. You say the O-line has sucked and D has sucked yet all 3 years made playoffs.....Viqueens D sucks and they have been shit last 3 years except for one playoff when GB stomped a mud hole in them. You're Northern wisconsin buddies have no clue..They must just like talking shit about GB...i am realistic..They are solid and have a shot to compete and make a run.....Minny on other hand will blow more than a prostitute on a Saturday night. How do u know GB D will suck this year?? how about we let it play out and see...I Guess since your team has sucked pretty much forever and wears a ladies color you are mad and take it out on other fans and teams...

So what says you? Will pack win more than 10.5?

If they beat Seattle then I think they make it
 

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Giants and Ravens teams were decimated with age, free agency, and salary cap, Green Bay was young with good cap number and Green Bay stood pat. How do I know the defense will suck? The same reason why I knew they would suck last year and the year before. They have a soft d line and terrible linebackers with a soft secondary. Nothing has changed? Wash rinse repeat. Like i said if you want to be pumped about another division title and no real chance to compete with the big boys then more power to yah. Ted Thompson had dropped the ball past few seasons by not bringing in players and having poor drafts. Aaron Rodgers has bailed his ass! If you don't think the defense and Oline have sucked then you are delusional. You could see that last year when they didn't have Rodgers to bail them out. You could see exactly how weak the roster is.


Now I can write a 500 page documentary about the Vikings and how inept their management has been, from hiring shit coaches to stuffing Ponder down the fan's throat but the new coaching regime, has a good young roster which shows me they are heading in the right direction. If Teddy turns out to be the future then they have a good roster around him going forward. It's a BIG if

Can't compete with the big boys??...SB a few year ago..I guess they can compete with the big boys....I guess last season decimated with more injuries then anyone can imagine doesn't count but You have an excuse for Ravens and Giants...I get it i get it BP..you hate GB..ur jealous of all the success over the years....ur team had a chance years ago and choked at home to Atlanta..they had a chance at New orleans with Favre and choked again...Ur team blows and in all their existence has NOTHING to show for it bust a load of dust in the SB trophy case..GB has had a lot of success...you're a jealous fool who needs to complete rip apart an organization who s miles ahead of yours. I'm pretty sure many people on here reading this stuff are laughing their ass off at you and your comments.....i think 4 playoffs and a SB is awesome last 4 years...u think it sucks....You do realize it's impossible to win a title every year right?/ maybe u don't since your team has never won any. Cassel and Ponder...LMFAO..thats awesome. Enjoy a season of last place cus it's a stone cold lock by me..mark it down and bank on it. :sadwave:
 

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How about this. I will bet anyone here

Green Bay finishes UNDER 10.5 wins

or

Minnesota finishes OVER 6 wins. (Ties Push)

Those are the ODDS

Trevor cmon man, this whole thread you talked about how the pack suck and the vikes are on the up and up---I wanted to see how serious you were...still confused on the thread now, just to get a rise out of pack fans? :shrug:
 
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