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There is no doubt the military does good as well. You can't expect them to go around doing terrorist activities 24/7, can you? The question is how much bad comes with the good? And is it worth it to us these days?

You've made clear your opinion that those in the military are wasting their life for no good reason. I'm merely showing everyone how wrong you are.
 

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IRAN 1946 Nuclear threat Soviet troops told to leave north.
YUGOSLAVIA 1946 Nuclear threat, naval Response to shoot-down of US plane.
URUGUAY 1947 Nuclear threat Bombers deployed as show of strength.
GREECE 1947-49 Command operation U.S. directs extreme-right in civil war.
GERMANY 1948 Nuclear Threat Atomic-capable bombers guard Berlin Airlift.
CHINA 1948-49 Troops/Marines evacuate Americans before Communist victory.
PHILIPPINES 1948-54 Command operation CIA directs war against Huk Rebellion.
PUERTO RICO 1950 Command operation Independence rebellion crushed in Ponce.
KOREA 1951-53 (-?) Troops, naval, bombing , nuclear threats U.S./So. Korea fights China/No. Korea to stalemate; A-bomb threat in 1950, and against China in 1953. Still have bases.
IRAN 1953 Command Operation CIA overthrows democracy, installs Shah.
VIETNAM 1954 Nuclear threat French offered bombs to use against seige.
GUATEMALA 1954 Command operation, bombing, nuclear threat CIA directs exile invasion after new gov't nationalized U.S. company lands; bombers based in Nicaragua.
EGYPT 1956 Nuclear threat, troops Soviets told to keep out of Suez crisis; Marines evacuate foreigners.
LEBANON l958 Troops, naval Army & Marine occupation against rebels.
IRAQ 1958 Nuclear threat Iraq warned against invading Kuwait.
CHINA l958 Nuclear threat China told not to move on Taiwan isles.
PANAMA 1958 Troops Flag protests erupt into confrontation.
VIETNAM l960-75 Troops, naval, bombing, nuclear threats Fought South Vietnam revolt & North Vietnam; one million killed in longest U.S. war; atomic bomb threats in l968 and l969.
CUBA l961 Command operation CIA-directed exile invasion fails.
GERMANY l961 Nuclear threat Alert during Berlin Wall crisis.
LAOS 1962 Command operation Military buildup during guerrilla war.
CUBA l962 Nuclear threat, naval Blockade during missile crisis; near-war with Soviet Union.
IRAQ 1963 Command operation CIA organizes coup that killed president, brings Ba'ath Party to power, and Saddam Hussein back from exile to be head of the secret service.
PANAMA l964 Troops Panamanians shot for urging canal's return.
INDONESIA l965 Command operation Million killed in CIA-assisted army coup.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1965-66 Troops, bombing Army & Marines land during election campaign.
GUATEMALA l966-67 Command operation Green Berets intervene against rebels.
DETROIT l967 Troops Army battles African Americans, 43 killed.
UNITED STATES l968 Troops After King is shot; over 21,000 soldiers in cities.
CAMBODIA l969-75 Bombing, troops, naval Up to 2 million killed in decade of bombing, starvation, and political chaos.
OMAN l970 Command operation U.S. directs Iranian marine invasion.
LAOS l971-73 Command operation, bombing U.S. directs South Vietnamese invasion; "carpet-bombs" countryside.
SOUTH DAKOTA l973 Command operation Army directs Wounded Knee siege of Lakotas.
MIDEAST 1973 Nuclear threat World-wide alert during Mideast War.
CHILE 1973 Command operation CIA-backed coup ousts elected marxist president.
CAMBODIA l975 Troops, bombing Gassing of captured ship Mayag?ez, 28 troops die when copter shot down.
ANGOLA l976-92 Command operation CIA assists South African-backed rebels.
IRAN l980 Troops, nuclear threat, aborted bombing Raid to rescue Embassy hostages; 8 troops die in copter-plane crash. Soviets warned not to get involved in revolution.
LIBYA l981 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down in maneuvers.
EL SALVADOR l981-92 Command operation, troops Advisors, overflights aid anti-rebel war, soldiers briefly involved in hostage clash.
NICARAGUA l981-90 Command operation, naval CIA directs exile (Contra) invasions, plants harbor mines against revolution.
LEBANON l982-84 Naval, bombing, troops Marines expel PLO and back Phalangists, Navy bombs and shells Muslim positions. 241 Marines killed when Shi'a rebel bombs barracks.
GRENADA l983-84 Troops, bombing Invasion four years after revolution.
HONDURAS l983-89 Troops Maneuvers help build bases near borders.
IRAN l984 Jets Two Iranian jets shot down over Persian Gulf.
LIBYA l986 Bombing, naval Air strikes to topple nationalist gov't.
BOLIVIA 1986 Troops Army assists raids on cocaine region.
IRAN l987-88 Naval, bombing US intervenes on side of Iraq in war.
LIBYA 1989 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down.
VIRGIN ISLANDS 1989 Troops St. Croix Black unrest after storm.
PHILIPPINES 1989 Jets Air cover provided for government against coup.
PANAMA 1989 (-?) Troops, bombing Nationalist government ousted by 27,000 soldiers, leaders arrested, 2000+ killed.
LIBERIA 1990 Troops Foreigners evacuated during civil war.
SAUDI ARABIA 1990-91 Troops, jets Iraq countered after invading Kuwait. 540,000 troops also stationed in Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Israel.
IRAQ 1990-91 Bombing, troops, naval Blockade of Iraqi and Jordanian ports, air strikes; 200,000+ killed in invasion of Iraq and Kuwait; large-scale destruction of Iraqi military.
KUWAIT 1991 Naval, bombing, troops Kuwait royal family returned to throne.
IRAQ 1991-2003 Bombing, naval No-fly zone over Kurdish north, Shiite south; constant air strikes and naval-enforced economic sanctions
LOS ANGELES 1992 Troops Army, Marines deployed against anti-police uprising.
SOMALIA 1992-94 Troops, naval, bombing U.S.-led United Nations occupation during civil war; raids against one Mogadishu faction.
YUGOSLAVIA 1992-94 Naval NATO blockade of Serbia and Montenegro.
BOSNIA 1993-? Jets, bombing No-fly zone patrolled in civil war; downed jets, bombed Serbs.
HAITI 1994 Troops, naval Blockade against military government; troops restore President Aristide to office three years after coup.
ZAIRE (CONGO) 1996-97 Troops Troops at Rwandan Hutu refugee camps, in area where Congo revolution begins.
LIBERIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners.
ALBANIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners.
SUDAN 1998 Missiles Attack on pharmaceutical plant alleged to be "terrorist" nerve gas plant.
AFGHANISTAN 1998 Missiles Attack on former CIA training camps used by Islamic fundamentalist groups alleged to have attacked embassies.
IRAQ 1998 Bombing, Missiles Four days of intensive air strikes after weapons inspectors allege Iraqi obstructions.
YUGOSLAVIA 1999 Bombing, Missiles Heavy NATO air strikes after Serbia declines to withdraw from Kosovo. NATO occupation of Kosovo.
YEMEN 2000 Naval USS Cole, docked in Aden, bombed.
MACEDONIA 2001 Troops NATO forces deployed to move and disarm Albanian rebels.
UNITED STATES 2001 Jets, naval Reaction to hijacker attacks on New York, DC
AFGHANISTAN 2001-? Troops, bombing, missiles Massive U.S. mobilization to overthrow Taliban, hunt Al Qaeda fighters, install Karzai regime, and battle Taliban insurgency. More than 30,000 U.S. troops and numerous private security contractors carry our occupation.
YEMEN 2002 Missiles Predator drone missile attack on Al Qaeda, including a US citizen.
PHILIPPINES 2002-? Troops, naval Training mission for Philippine military fighting Abu Sayyaf rebels evolves into combat missions in Sulu Archipelago, west of Mindanao.
COLOMBIA 2003-? Troops US special forces sent to rebel zone to back up Colombian military protecting oil pipeline.
IRAQ 2003-? Troops, naval, bombing, missiles Saddam regime toppled in Baghdad. More than 250,000 U.S. personnel participate in invasion. US and UK forces occupy country and battle Sunni and Shi'ite insurgencies. More than 160,000 troops and numerous private contractors carry out occupation and build large permanent bases.
LIBERIA 2003 Troops Brief involvement in peacekeeping force as rebels drove out leader.
HAITI 2004-05 Troops, naval Marines & Army land after right-wing rebels oust elected President Aristide, who was advised to leave by Washington.
PAKISTAN 2005-? Missiles, bombing, covert operation CIA missile and air strikes and Special Forces raids on alleged Al Qaeda and Taliban refuge villages kill multiple civilians. Drone attacks also on Pakistani Mehsud network.
SOMALIA 2006-? Missiles, naval, troops, command operation Special Forces advise Ethiopian invasion that topples Islamist government; AC-130 strikes, Cruise missile attacks and helicopter raids against Islamist rebels; naval blockade against "pirates" and insurgents.
SYRIA 2008 Troops Special Forces in helicopter raid 5 miles from Iraq kill 8 Syrian civilians
YEMEN 2009-? Missiles, command operation Cruise missile attack on Al Qaeda kills 49 civilians; Yemeni military assaults on rebels
LIBYA 2011-? Bombing, missiles, command operation NATO coordinates air strikes and missile attacks against Qaddafi government during uprising by rebel army.
 

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We should have a military. But we should not be occupying other countries. We have over 700 military bases around the world. And those are just the ones they tell us about. We should be protecting our borders.

So you're ok with our enemies circling the country and blocking us off from the rest of the world. We stay inside the borders of the US, and revert back to isolationalism and let the "bad guys" establish a perimeter around our shorelines and keep us locked inside America as if it were one big concentration camp.

Having a military base in another country is not "occupying the country"

By your definition, when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harber we should have pulled back and moved back to California and given them Hawaii. Let them have that closer base of operations. heck, we could all be eating sushi and this message board would be written in kanji. cool.
 

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By your definition, when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harber we should have pulled back and moved back to California and given them Hawaii. Let them have that closer base of operations. heck, we could all be eating sushi and this message board would be written in kanji. cool.

Now you are being ridiculous. I have no problem defending the country with military actions when necessary. The problem is the military has gotten out of control. If you can't see that, there really is no point.
 

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Now you are being ridiculous. I have no problem defending the country with military actions when necessary. The problem is the military has gotten out of control. If you can't see that, there really is no point.

U mean u have no trouble with stupid young men being involved in military actions, right?

Who is going to conduct these military actions if we have no volunteers? U suggest people who volunteer are stupid, right? What would u prefer? A Stalingrad-ish conscription slaughter of the untrained should the need arise?
 

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U mean u have no trouble with stupid young men being involved in military actions, right?

Who is going to conduct these military actions if we have no volunteers? U suggest people who volunteer are stupid, right? What would u prefer? A Stalingrad-ish conscription slaughter of the untrained should the need arise?

I would suggest that lawmakers actually conduct military operations as if their own kids were on the front lines. Then we would actually be fighting only when it was needed and not when it was just profitable.
 

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Maybe, instead of us defending our country as I have in the united states marine corps. We could use pencil dicks like you to educate our terrorist so that they may have a better understanding of our culture and OUR Way of life. Cut your arms up and down vs horizonally...........you will be happy you did:0008
 

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Maybe, instead of us defending our country as I have in the united states marine corps. We could use pencil dicks like you to educate our terrorist so that they may have a better understanding of our culture and OUR Way of life. Cut your arms up and down vs horizonally...........you will be happy you did:0008

Don't they have libraries in the military? I wish you would have picked up a book during your tour.
 

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Don't they have libraries in the military? I wish you would have picked up a book during your tour.

Hard to pick up a book in a foxhole, something that pussies like you that hide behind a book would never know anything about. I am successful, I manage 250 employees, am in charge of a 150 million a year business. Your education as you hold dear to your self being is wasted by my cashiers whom give up their degrees to be a cashier of mine for 55K a year.:mj07: :mj07: I am not laughing with you, I am laughing at you:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:
 

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Hard to pick up a book in a foxhole, something that pussies like you that hide behind a book would never know anything about. I am successful, I manage 250 employees, am in charge of a 150 million a year business. Your education as you hold dear to your self being is wasted by my cashiers whom give up their degrees to be a cashier of mine for 55K a year.:mj07: :mj07: I am not laughing with you, I am laughing at you:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

I'm sure you are very intelligent. Maybe you should write a book too. :facepalm:
 

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As for me being a pussy? It's not like you are fighting some asshole in a bar. You are risking your life for 30K a year against forces that would do anything to kill you. Forces that would do anything. Car bombings, landmines, you name it. I went to a military funeral awhile ago for a kid that was killed by a fucking landmine. Yeah, i'll pass on that. Thanks anyway though.
 

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Maybe, instead of us defending our country as I have in the united states marine corps. We could use pencil dicks like you to educate our terrorist so that they may have a better understanding of our culture and OUR Way of life. Cut your arms up and down vs horizonally...........you will be happy you did:0008

The point is do u really think u are fighting for the country? Really?
 

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The point is do u really think u are fighting for the country? Really?

...and that is what these tools don't get? He didn't even read through the whole thread. He just got his panties in a bunch about someone attacking the military. These aren't even wars that should be fought. :facepalm:
 

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I'm sure you are very intelligent. Maybe you should write a book too. :facepalm:

No, I am a grunt, marine......1977-1981
They give out jobs like mine to ignorant people. You are so full of yourself, and you attack wesie.....are you fucking kidding me. Maybe you should cash your welfare or state check and call it a day..........your talking to someone that is way beyond your league. you obviously never served, so.............you do not know anything other than your class room books, and again, maybe you can masturbate with your twizzers tonight, pencil dick.........:sadwave:
 

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No, I am a grunt, marine......1977-1981
They give out jobs like mine to ignorant people. You are so full of yourself, and you attack wesie.....are you fucking kidding me. Maybe you should cash your welfare or state check and call it a day..........your talking to someone that is way beyond your league. you obviously never served, so.............you do not know anything other than your class room books, and again, maybe you can masturbate with your twizzers tonight, pencil dick.........:sadwave:

What is with the lame jokes? You act like you are 10. I would hope that you learned better jokes when you were serving than that.

As for gw, you should go back and take a look at our conversation. Seeing things only through one side make you a tool and a sheep to the establishment.
 

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The point is do u really think u are fighting for the country? Really?

The point is Sponge, that you sign up to help protect and serve.........So.........should our forefathers have just taken your broke dick stance? You and other idiots here do not understand as you want to criticize and sit in the bleachers. Yeah, I get that. but, your the last fuck tard that would run and cry in the corner at the first sign of trouble. You and other ones are showing what a douche bag you really are.
This country is not perfect, pick a country that is? I dare you to live there and report back. Is easy to criticize when all you have done is sit your ass on the side lines your whole life. Your issues, not the ones whom have served.
 

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The point is Sponge, that you sign up to help protect and serve.........So.........should our forefathers have just taken your broke dick stance? You and other idiots here do not understand as you want to criticize and sit in the bleachers. Yeah, I get that. but, your the last fuck tard that would run and cry in the corner at the first sign of trouble. You and other ones are showing what a douche bag you really are.
This country is not perfect, pick a country that is? I dare you to live there and report back. Is easy to criticize when all you have done is sit your ass on the side lines your whole life. Your issues, not the ones whom have served.

No, the point is that you are being used. This country is run by corporations. There is nothing to fight for.
 

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The point is Sponge, that you sign up to help protect and serve.........So.........should our forefathers have just taken your broke dick stance? You and other idiots here do not understand as you want to criticize and sit in the bleachers. Yeah, I get that. but, your the last fuck tard that would run and cry in the corner at the first sign of trouble. You and other ones are showing what a douche bag you really are.
This country is not perfect, pick a country that is? I dare you to live there and report back. Is easy to criticize when all you have done is sit your ass on the side lines your whole life. Your issues, not the ones whom have served.

U are fighting for corporate America u dumb shit so go fight. Go believe that nonsense about fighting for ur country. Being scared that is hilarious. Having some common sense and seeing a con job right in front of my face tells me what to do. This joke about being scared cause im not gullible enuf to fight a rich mans game is comical. Blah blah blah about we are the best country in the world. I bet their are some Canucks in here that would disagree with ya. Sit on the sidelines lol. I never had an issue with people that served my gullible friend. I have an issue with the con men who get u guys to serve. what is next a dick sizing competition with ya? Tramp is right u do sound ten years old.
 

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What is with the lame jokes? You act like you are 10. I would hope that you learned better jokes when you were serving than that.

As for gw, you should go back and take a look at our conversation. Seeing things only through one side make you a tool and a sheep to the establishment.

You can hide behind your computer, just like you hide behind your books.............:mj07:
The only jokes I found serving, were that honest men whom had honor were dieing.........vs cowards like you , were sitting on ther laurels and justifiy your means by being "educated". Can you cash an annuity with your education, buy a condo, a house? Local school teachers are "educated" and make 30K less than my high school educated cashiers. What is your point? EDUCATION, does not mean shit without execution or application. If you were to defend the country of ours, I would move...............as your an insult to the proud and the brave. Go let mommie tell you a bed time story, and you can write your own book...............HOMO < YET EDUCATED
 
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