The coksucking on espn is getting sickening
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Sun Tzu said:
Your right, what do NFL scouts know? Weren't his biggest games actually in the biggest games SC played over the past 3 years? Even in the Rose Bowl loss to UT, I believe he still had like 375 total yards -above his season average!
flapjack said:
Bush is insane, and carried USC to a few wins.
But the 3 that come to mind are Fresno St. (i geuss Nevada, Tulsa, La Tech have the greatets offenses of all time as well) ASU (40 to Rutgers!!! and 114 in D, and UCLA (1 of the worst rushing Ds ever)
blgstocks said:
...oh yeah - and 6 rivalry games versus ND and UCLA not to mention carrying the entire team on his back versus Va Tech. And, he carried them to a "few wins" - how many games has USC won since he stepped on campus? I you could not find many/any players ever in the history of CFL who have come up so big in important games to their school. Tell me what are his stats in the 6 games versus their rivals UCLA & ND anyway? I've had too many vodkas to look it up, but I would guess it is sick.
Perhaps if you watched USC football - like most scouts have - you would realize the sick display of football he has put on in big games. 375 yards of total O (above his average) against a "great" D like UT would tell most people that even in defeat he could not be stopped. If LenDale was not cutting through UT's D in huge chunks, you would have seen 450+ yards outta Bush- dont you think? After all, Bush's biggest games at SC where when the other team shut down LenDale. Didn't happen in the RB, UT just out slugged USC matching them score for score until the time ran out.
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He didnt have anywhere near 375 yards of offense. He had 82 rushing and 95 receiving, which included a 40 yard screen (before the lateral) that half of MJ's would have gotten as far and the 30 yard shovel pass at the end where every Texas player was standing 30 yards back in a full prevent.
Last I checked 82 plus 95 is a tad short of 375. Perhaps you are counting his enormous 20 yard per kickoff return average (which again half of MJ's could run it back to the 20), but that only gets you to 279.
But lets not get let the facts get in the way.
Last I checked 82 plus 95 is a tad short of 375. Perhaps you are counting his enormous 20 yard per kickoff return average (which again half of MJ's could run it back to the 20), but that only gets you to 279.
But lets not get let the facts get in the way.
Great post Sun Tzu,Sun Tzu said:
to say that Bush is one of the greatest of all time and rivalry this and carried team on his back. I mean Bush is a great player, but he was not the best ever or anything that couldnt be stopped. Texas stopped SC and Bush. The "thoery" that Bush only didnt run rampant on teams because White was too busy scoring is a joke. And even IF that theory was true, so what, he did it against the worst collection of rushing defenses of any team.
Wow he must have SICK rushing stats against UCLA and ND! Well, who wouldnt! Bring on the SC bandwagon after this post, you all are brainwashed and its going to take a Insight.com Bowl appearance next year for you guys to get your head straight.
In "the game" he gets all of 19 touches and isnt even on the field for the biggest play of the game. He is most overrated as a return guy (just look at the stats) but that is moot as no NFL team will use him that way.
he is a great player and maybe he will turn out to be the second coming, but a 15 touch guy who has never taken any kind of a pounding is not a smart use of a top pick.
I would note that it is quite apparent now the texans will hire Kubiak. he has been in Denver as a coach for 12 years - look how they use running backs and where they draft them. No way he wants the #1 pick to be used that way.
he is a great player and maybe he will turn out to be the second coming, but a 15 touch guy who has never taken any kind of a pounding is not a smart use of a top pick.
I would note that it is quite apparent now the texans will hire Kubiak. he has been in Denver as a coach for 12 years - look how they use running backs and where they draft them. No way he wants the #1 pick to be used that way.
First of all Sun is right, I mistyped - nonetheless - 275 yards of total yardage - is more than decent last time I checked.
Not sure what to say about that first sentence as I'm not sure what you are trying to say. As for Bush being one of the greatest of all time, I would say at the college level he's proved that (Note I said "one of" not "the" greatest), in the NFL it is a whole different ballgame - only time will tell. He could be one of the greatest, he could be average. As for that theory of White being too busy scoring, cutting into Bush's carries. I would say, "yeah." (See Rose Bowl for an example). If you were the OC, you would not keep feeding White the rock when he is doing what he was doing?
Also to say Texas "stopped" USC's offense is the joke. Both defenses got ripped. UT made the plays to win the game, but please - reading some posts on here, I would swear the great offensive slugfest I watched in person was a 55-0 UT victory with UT's D only letting USC get yards when they were just standing around watching and distracted for some reason instead of trying. It was a great game where both O's had their way with the other team's defense all night long.
But, back to the NFL draft, I would say the Texans should not be selecting RB or VY. Trading down usually pays off better unless it is some absolute perfect match of the teams greatest need matcing the #1 player in the draft. Texans got alot of problems, but they have a strong RB and they seem to want to stick with Carr. They got bigger holes else where to fill.
blgstocks said:
Not sure what to say about that first sentence as I'm not sure what you are trying to say. As for Bush being one of the greatest of all time, I would say at the college level he's proved that (Note I said "one of" not "the" greatest), in the NFL it is a whole different ballgame - only time will tell. He could be one of the greatest, he could be average. As for that theory of White being too busy scoring, cutting into Bush's carries. I would say, "yeah." (See Rose Bowl for an example). If you were the OC, you would not keep feeding White the rock when he is doing what he was doing?
Also to say Texas "stopped" USC's offense is the joke. Both defenses got ripped. UT made the plays to win the game, but please - reading some posts on here, I would swear the great offensive slugfest I watched in person was a 55-0 UT victory with UT's D only letting USC get yards when they were just standing around watching and distracted for some reason instead of trying. It was a great game where both O's had their way with the other team's defense all night long.
But, back to the NFL draft, I would say the Texans should not be selecting RB or VY. Trading down usually pays off better unless it is some absolute perfect match of the teams greatest need matcing the #1 player in the draft. Texans got alot of problems, but they have a strong RB and they seem to want to stick with Carr. They got bigger holes else where to fill.
Bush is nowhere near the best back in college football history.
Redick is nowhere near the best shooter in college basketball history.
I guess it depends on which side of the fence you are on as to what is considered coksucking?
If it's USC, and you like USC, ESPN is giving well-deserved credit for "the greatest team of all-time" with "the greatest player of all-time", even though they only won 1 BCS championship.
If it's Duke, and you don't like Duke or Redick, it's coksucking, and vice versa.
Redick is nowhere near the best shooter in college basketball history.
I guess it depends on which side of the fence you are on as to what is considered coksucking?
If it's USC, and you like USC, ESPN is giving well-deserved credit for "the greatest team of all-time" with "the greatest player of all-time", even though they only won 1 BCS championship.
If it's Duke, and you don't like Duke or Redick, it's coksucking, and vice versa.
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