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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, center, with Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, left, and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. (Vahid

The real news is that already notorious photo: the president of Brazil, our largest ally in Latin America, and the prime minister of Turkey, for more than half a century the Muslim anchor of NATO, raising hands together with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the most virulently anti-American leader in the world.
That picture -- a defiant, triumphant take-that-Uncle-Sam -- is a crushing verdict on the Obama foreign policy. It demonstrates how rising powers, traditional American allies, having watched this administration in action, have decided that there's no cost in lining up with America's enemies and no profit in lining up with a U.S. president given to apologies and appeasement.

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The fruits of weakness
By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, May 21, 2010

It is perfectly obvious that Iran's latest uranium maneuver, brokered by Brazil and Turkey, is a ruse. Iran retains more than enough enriched uranium to make a bomb. And it continues enriching at an accelerated pace and to a greater purity (20 percent). Which is why the French foreign ministry immediately declared that the trumpeted temporary shipping of some Iranian uranium to Turkey will do nothing to halt Iran's nuclear program.

It will, however, make meaningful sanctions more difficult. America's proposed Security Council resolution is already laughably weak -- no blacklisting of Iran's central bank, no sanctions against Iran's oil and gas industry, no nonconsensual inspections on the high seas. Yet Turkey and Brazil -- both current members of the Security Council -- are so opposed to sanctions that they will not even discuss the resolution. And China will now have a new excuse to weaken it further.
But the deeper meaning of the uranium-export stunt is the brazenness with which Brazil and Turkey gave cover to the mullahs' nuclear ambitions and deliberately undermined U.S. efforts to curb Iran's program.
The real news is that already notorious photo: the president of Brazil, our largest ally in Latin America, and the prime minister of Turkey, for more than half a century the Muslim anchor of NATO, raising hands together with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the most virulently anti-American leader in the world.
That picture -- a defiant, triumphant take-that-Uncle-Sam -- is a crushing verdict on the Obama foreign policy. It demonstrates how rising powers, traditional American allies, having watched this administration in action, have decided that there's no cost in lining up with America's enemies and no profit in lining up with a U.S. president given to apologies and appeasement.
They've watched President Obama's humiliating attempts to appease Iran, as every rejected overture is met with abjectly renewed U.S. negotiating offers. American acquiescence reached such a point that the president was late, hesitant and flaccid in expressing even rhetorical support for democracy demonstrators who were being brutally suppressed and whose call for regime change offered the potential for the most significant U.S. strategic advance in the region in 30 years.
They've watched America acquiesce to Russia's re-exerting sway over Eastern Europe, over Ukraine (pressured by Russia last month into extending for 25 years its lease of the Black Sea naval base at Sevastopol) and over Georgia (Russia's de facto annexation of Abkhazia and South Ossetia is no longer an issue under the Obama "reset" policy).
the Arab Levan They've watched our appeasement of Syria, Iran's agent in t -- sending our ambassador back to Syria even as it tightens its grip on Lebanon, supplies Hezbollah with Scuds and intensifies its role as the pivot of the Iran-Hezbollah-Hamas alliance. The price for this ostentatious flouting of the United States and its interests? Ever more eager U.S. "engagement."

They've observed the administration's gratuitous slap at Britain over the Falklands, its contemptuous treatment of Israel, its undercutting of the Czech Republic and Poland, and its indifference to Lebanon and Georgia. And in Latin America, they see not just U.S. passivity as Venezuela's Hugo Ch?vez organizes his anti-American "Bolivarian" coalition while deepening military and commercial ties with Iran and Russia. They saw active U.S. support in Honduras for a pro-Ch?vez would-be dictator seeking unconstitutional powers in defiance of the democratic institutions of that country.
. This is not just an America in decline. This is an America in retreat -- accepting, ratifying and declaring its decline, and inviting rising powers to fill the vacuum
Nor is this retreat by inadvertence. This is retreat by design and, indeed, on principle. It's the perfect fulfillment of Obama's adopted Third World narrative of American misdeeds, disrespect and domination from which he has come to redeem us and the world. Hence his foundational declaration at the U.N. General Assembly last September that "No one nation can or should try to dominate another nation" (guess who's been the dominant nation for the last two decades?) and his dismissal of any "world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another." (NATO? The West?)
Given Obama's policies and principles, Turkey and Brazil are acting rationally. Why not give cover to Ahmadinejad and his nuclear ambitions? As the United States retreats in the face of Iran, China, Russia and Venezuela, why not hedge your bets? There's nothing to fear from Obama, and everything to gain by ingratiating yourself with America's rising adversaries. After all, they actually believe in helping one's friends and punishing one's enemies.
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:142smilie :142smilie

thanks for the laugh

you think anyone in the world controls Iran

more neocon bullchit
 

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Psst Gumby--Hows that dialogue(carrot) coming


Gumby to Iran

Gumby in oct 2009--this is your last chance
Gumby in Dec 2009 this last-last chance

The entire time Iran to Gumby=:fingerc:

Ya know I remember was but a short time ago Hussein (saddam)was thumbing his nose and telling U.S. and U.N to go fck themselves just like Iran. Wonder how Hussein (obama) calls it when they get nuke on his watch.


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seems to me I remember George W and President Cheney not knowing wtf to do about Iran.

They had no clue how to deal with them

I say let them have the fawking bomb and if they use it on Isreal we send 100 of our biggest nukes and make Iran a huge hole in the world .

or worse yet for them, Iran bungles it and it dont go off right.

Then we slam them

I think Obama is handing it very well.

you have no trust in your President DTBlackgumby
 

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You are a hater yourself COD :142smilie

I put a down payment on a new toy.

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yeh I know

I cant get the Taurus Judge gun off my mind.

Asked the wife if I could have one more gun and she just looked at me.
 

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At least she is looking at you :toast: :mj07:

:toast:

We are working hard to relax the VERY STRICT Gun Laws here in the Commune of Kalifornia so I and many others can legally own that beauty of a gun.

Here's my new Girlfriend in .308
 

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You are a hater yourself COD :142smilie

I put a down payment on a new toy.
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here is the differance Illum

I admit I am a hater against hateful illogical right wing or far liberal crazys.

people like DTBlackgumby dont realize they are haters. They think their shit dont stink ever about anything. When the truth is I can smell them from here.
 

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Claims police shooting suspects had extremist 'anti-government' linksBy the CNN Wire Staff
May 22, 2010 6:08 a.m. EDT

Two police officers were shot with an assault weapon and killed in West Memphis, Arkansas.STORY HIGHLIGHTS

Police release names of suspects in police shooting

Two civil rights groups say suspects are part of anti-government movement

Two police officers shot, two wounded
(CNN) -- Two suspects accused of gunning down Arkansas police officers this week may have ties to extremist anti-government groups, two civil rights organizations say.

Jerry R. Kane, 45, and his 16-year-old son Joseph Kane fatally shot two police officers and wounded two others during a wild shootout Thursday, according to Arkansas state police.

The father and son were shot and killed during the battle on the streets of West Memphis, Arkansas.

The Anti-Defamation League said the two suspects belonged to "an extreme right-wing movement that believes that virtually all existing government in the United States is illegitimate and which seeks to restore an idealized, minimalist government that never actually existed."
:scared :SIB

The Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit civil rights organization, also said the two member are part of the "sovereign citizen" movement.

"If Jerry Kane is proven responsible for these tragic murders, it would be a new page in the same old book for the sovereign citizens, who have assaulted or killed a number of law enforcement officials in the past 20 years, especially during traffic stops," the ADL said in a statement.

The Southern Poverty Law Center released Internet footage they say is the elder Kane preaching the sovereign citizen philosophy.

Police in Arkansas have been tight-lipped about a motive in the killings, stating that releasing too many details could hurt their investigation.

The incident began at 11:36 a.m. (12:36 p.m. ET) Thursday, when West Memphis patrolman Bill Evans made a traffic stop on a white minivan traveling eastbound on I-40 , said Bill Sadler, spokesman for the Arkansas state police.

After the vehicle exited the Interstate onto an off-ramp, Sgt. Brandon Paudert arrived on the scene as backup, Sadler said.

"It is our belief that Officer Evans was shoved to the ground by one of the suspects in the minivan and gunfire was directed at both officers," Sadler said.

The suspects then fled, driving east in the minivan, leaving one man dead and the other fatally wounded.

Within minutes, officers from other agencies -- including the Arkansas state police and the Arkansas Fish and Game Commission -- began to converge on the area, looking for the suspects, he said.

About 90 minutes later, a minivan believed to be the one that had been seen leaving the shooting site was spotted in a parking lot of a nearby Wal-Mart, Sadler said.

There, it was approached by Crittenden County Sheriff Dick Busby and Chief Enforcement Officer W.A. Wren, who were traveling in the same vehicle, he said.

Both men were wounded in a gunbattle initiated by the suspects, who were using a long rifle and a handgun, Sadler said.

The gunbattle ended after "a very brave, young wildlife officer in his state truck rammed the suspect vehicle, preventing an exit of the suspects," who were then killed, Sadler said.
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I think that DTBlackgumby would support the police officers being killed as justified for going against a group that believes goverment is not valid.

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Tell us Scott which of Gumby's Grifts did you like best-
-his 2 years of this is your last chance with iran
-his closing Gitmo-
-his reducing troops in 1st 2 years-
-or his retreat-we've lost attitude-surge won't work rhetoric.

--or better yet can you give us example of anything he was right on--except efforts to redistribute the wealth?
 

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Tell us Scott which of Gumby's Grifts did you like best-
-his 2 years of this is your last chance with iran
-his closing Gitmo-
-his reducing troops in 1st 2 years-
-or his retreat-we've lost attitude-surge won't work rhetoric.

--or better yet can you give us example of anything he was right on--except efforts to redistribute the wealth?
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No one knows exactly how to deal with Iran. You are foolish to think anything differant.


Closing Gitmo is something that has to be done. Whats the fawking problem ?
Any prisinors still incarcerated there , I would shoot them in the head and be done with that shit. Maybe even hang a few of them in pig oil.

The surge in Iraq ? Let them fawkers defend their own country now. We should pull back and just assist when absoulutely required.

Reduce troops in Afghanastan ?
We have built it up to where it should have been when George and President Cheney were busy lieing about Iraq.

Obama has been right with the economy

He pulled us out of the depths of depressions that George W put us in on purpose and was laughing as he went out of office.

take the blinders off DTBlackgumby. You are only as big a fool as when you wake up in the morning and start thinking you're neocon right wing dumb ass thoughts.

its anti american

when you moving to China like you said you were

Get out !
 
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Tell us Scott which of Gumby's Grifts did you like best-
-his 2 years of this is your last chance with iran
-his closing Gitmo-
-his reducing troops in 1st 2 years-
-or his retreat-we've lost attitude-surge won't work rhetoric.

--or better yet can you give us example of anything he was right on--except efforts to redistribute the wealth?
Hmmm... I wonder what DTGumby would do about Iran? Let me guess...

Maybe he'd nuke Tehran. Let's see, there are nearly 8 million people in Tehran. What would be an acceptable number of deaths (2, 3, maybe 4 million?) to teach Ahmadinejad a lesson and let him know we're not fooling around?

Or maybe he'd just declare war on Iran and get the U.S. bogged down in another war in Middle East. Nevermind that after 7 years of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, we don't have the money, we don't have the troops and we don't have the equipment (like our troops, most of our military equipment in the Middle East is battle weary and wearing out).

I guess our troops are just gonna have to suck it up and we're just gonna have to keep shoveling money into the black hole of military imperialism. In the end, it'll all be worth it though because all the boogie men (Saddam, Bin Laden, Ahmadinejad, Kim Jong-Il) make DTGumby afraid.

There, there DTGumby. There's nothing to worry about. I'm sure our leaders will do the right thing and kill lots people and spend lots of money so you don't have to be afraid anymore.

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another question asked and then we get silence.

DTBlackgumby really has no answers.

He just likes to throw blame around as long as it suits his neocon right wing agenda.
 

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Hmmm... I wonder what DTGumby would do about Iran? Let me guess...

Maybe he'd nuke Tehran. Let's see, there are nearly 8 million people in Tehran. What would be an acceptable number of deaths (2, 3, maybe 4 million?) to teach Ahmadinejad a lesson and let him know we're not fooling around?

Or maybe he'd just declare war on Iran and get the U.S. bogged down in another war in Middle East. Nevermind that after 7 years of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, we don't have the money, we don't have the troops and we don't have the equipment (like our troops, most of our military equipment in the Middle East is battle weary and wearing out).

I guess our troops are just gonna have to suck it up and we're just gonna have to keep shoveling money into the black hole of military imperialism. In the end, it'll all be worth it though because all the boogie men (Saddam, Bin Laden, Ahmadinejad, Kim Jong-Il) make DTGumby afraid.

There, there DTGumby. There's nothing to worry about. I'm sure our leaders will do the right thing and kill lots people and spend lots of money so you don't have to be afraid anymore.

Trench

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