The Season From Hell

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Hi all,

Well, I took 24 hours off to lick my wounds, but I am back. This has been, without a doubt, my absolute worst NFL season. Scary really. This is a place I have never been. A little background for anyone who is interested. Maybe, some of you can relate.

This is my 9th season of 'capping the NFL. It's the only sport I do well (or at least, I used to). In the previous eight years I have lost money for the season a grand total of once (2002 - lost about $1000). In all the other years since '96 I have been profitable... not always huge profit... but always in the black. I've had everything ranging from my poorest profiting year being about a $500 net gain, to over $30,000 up in 2001 (I won a couple of large contests totaling $15,000, in addition to about $15,000 in winning bets). Typically I have come to expect that I will pocket between $5,000 - $10,000 per NFL season. I've even budgeted for it. Maybe that's no one else's business...but I have felt for a long time I had this sport beaten. Not enough to make a living, but enough to expect a profit and feel relaxed and confident about it.

Anyways, maybe I felt I was immune to losing or I have gotten lazy...or something...I don't know what it is... but SOMETHING has changed, and this year has been a HUGE kick in the nuts for me. Week 1 was the worst single week I have ever had 'capping the sport. But then this week I topped it - by a LOT. And I am pretty much at a loss to explain why this has happened. At one point on Sunday I was 3-2-1. I ended the weekend at 3-11-1. Nine straight losses. I don't think I could toss a coin and have it come up tails 9 times in a row if I tossed that coin for 24 hours straight.

By last night I had gotten over the shock of it, and I was almost in a state of delerium or something. Sitting there laughing at the TV like some crazy fool as consecutive loss #9 (Balt -5?) was unravelling and I knew it didn't have a hope in hell of it coming through. In 4 weeks this year I have had one week with VERY marginal gains (Week 2), one week of average losses (Week 3), and the two worst weeks of my 'capping life. Luckily, my bet last night was for the same amount of all my other bets. I was VERY tempted to go large and chase my way out of it, but stuck with the same bet size I always do. Thank GOD.

I'm wondering if other guys who usually come out ahead of the game are finding this year to be as mind-boggling as I have. The majority of sides I bet are dogs, and the majority of totals I bet are Unders. There have been plenty of dog and Under covers.... so what the hell is up? With a slight majority of games going to the dog, and a full 60% of all games going Under I should be rolling in the dough. I just don't seem to be picking the right dogs and Unders. I look at the standings in the big contest here and I see a LOT of the guys that were Top 25 last year in the bottom 20 or so this year. So I'm guessing I'm not the only one who has been completely baffled by what has gone on. Whatever it is that we have in common (similar thought patterns, methods of capping, whatever), it looks to me like we've all gotten snowed under this year.

Anyone out there relating to this...noticing how this season is different from all others... had all their systems and methods go right out the window?? Anyone out there who usually loses who is just raking in the $$ this season?

Right now I'm trying to figure out what my next step will be. I have certainly had bad weeks in the past, but nothing that remotely compares to the losses I have taken this year. Do I sit out a week or two and observe? Do I stop altogether? Will it all even out in the end? I've never had to consider shutting it down, but at this point I am pretty confused and trying to figure out the best way out.

My condolences to anyone else out there who has lost their shirt so far. Never, ever did I think it could go this wrong.

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Hey, GM.

I haven't had the nerve to venture into my own thread from last week, so I don't (want to!!) know exact numbers....But I'm almost certain that this week was THE worst week I have ever had in any sport. (I've 'only' been doing it seriously for about 4-5 years, but still!).

I fully plan to press on!...I mean, I'm going so badly atm that I could almost be sure that the w'end I didn't bet, my 'leans' would all get up!!

Mind you, being possibly the most impatient man on earth, another crappy week could well see me have a bit of a rest.....
But then again, being the most impatient man on earth, could I wait until hoops?? :rolleyes:

Thinking about going WAY off the mark this week...Looking very closely at Oakland and SD!....Well, a couple of weeks off couldn't hurt could it! ;)
 

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GM, welcome to the club. I have done a couple of things different this year that has helped me remain near 50%. I have broke down the schedule to the following
Division
Conferences
Non-Confrence. I never play a road favorite, but love those non-conf home dogs. Someone with much better record keeping skills than I has this one coming in around 60 to 65 %.
Point Spreads: Love the home dog getting 2.5 points. Not three but 2.5. It is a mindf*** but usually brings home the dough.
Pool: I started a pool this year with 10 other avg. Joe's. Looking for the consensus plays. It has helped keep me off a couple of popular plays. Takes some time but worth the price.
Stay focused: I now read the injury reports and player stuff daily. Did not do this in the past and it has helped tremendously. Always looking for the small article mentioning the offensive lineman. For example Jags, loose left tackle big time hit. However San Diego loses starting center. Two critical positions yet not much print.
Finally Stats: I wait till after the first 4 weeks to begin handicapping with stats. I have found this gives a pretty good perspective of what to expect the b.o.y.
Don't Chase: Just another 16 happy weeks to go.

Enjoy your write-ups.

JHR
 

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ughhhhhhhh..........bad season so far & I usually do OK, meaning I find a way to finish in the black 3 out of every 4 years. I like unders (and see that they are running about 60% this year) but am reluctant to pound them because of the new rules enforcements plus it seems like there are challenges all over the place this year, further slowing the clock.
I don't know, it seems like I'm not having so bad a year, but
am down about 18 units in the pros. However, I am up the same 18 units in colleges.
GM.........I have always considered you one of the better cappers on the site (kinda the sleeper type)with some good insight. Hang in there & stick to your principles & don't try to get it back all at once. It's a long season & it is still early.
GL................THE HITMAN
 

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I was right there with you with my season starting in the toilet. I did give into temptation and chased a little last Monday. Fortunately I picked the right team for once and got back in black with Chiefs ML + a parlay with ML and over. Not a smart idea however, as a loss would have left my account at nil. Parity has made this league hard to cap. I couldn't have imagined the Packers getting beat in Lambeau by the Bears and Giants at the start of this season or the Chargers beating (an admittedly injured) Titans team. Hang in there GM...you will rebound.
 

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I was down about half my bankroll by the end of Sunday and saved my season by letting most of what I had left ride on KC +6 (not something I'd recomend to anyone as a smart thing to do).Now that the bankroll is back to where I started I'm allmost shell-shocked to pull the trigger on on much of anything for a while.You just have to be more disiplined and pick your spots more wiseley I guess and play less games and when you do play them make the units wagered the same amount on every game
 

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GM, Being a system player I experienced the same thing losing 6 of 7 last week making me 11-17 on the year.

Just gonna stick to the gameplan though another bad week will see me reducing my unit size at the least.

Good luck to us all in Week 5. We need it.
 

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GM,
I've said for years that you can't handicap the pros and I still believe that although I continue to try. It sounds like you have had success in the past. Stick to you gameplan and manage your money. This could be one of the years that the "bear" gets you. Hang tough and if you decide to take a week or two off from the pros do NOT even look at the matchups. The ball will bounce your way again but the pros are brutal.
 

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GM,
Posting this for no other reason than I love your posts and have always read your write ups. I've always been a pretty close to even bettor on football. My worst year was -700, and my best was the year Baltimore won it all where I was up 1800 and laid it all on them. I generally bet between 25-50 per game with the very occasional 100 in there if Im rolling. Last week was my best week while others seemed to crash. Why I dont know. Here were my plays.... :clap:

Pit-Cincy over 38 1/2----50---WIn
Houston +2 1/2-----------50---WIn
Sd +3-------------------------50---WIn
TB +3-------------------------100---Push

2 team teaser--------------25---Win
Phi -3
Houston +8 1/2

3 teamer---------------------25---Win
Houston
Philly
KC

Ne-Buf under 36-----------50---Lose
St louis -3 1/2---------------100---Win
Kc money line----------------50---Win
Kc +6---------------------------50---Win
Balt-KC over 41--------------25---Win

Total of +465 which is a great week for me. Like I said just hoping you might see what someone who is currently winning and winning more than usual is betting. Dont know if it will help or not. Hang in there I KNOW you will turn it around.
GL
 
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You could do a number of things.You could cap the games privately without betting on them 'til things return to normal.You could keep going and ride out the storm if theres any bankroll left.You could stop all together.Really glad to hear that you didn't "unload" on Monday Night,that only makes everything worse,EVEN IF YOU WIN,because then it fools you into making this horrible mistake a habit.The best handicapping book I've read is How Professional Gamblers Beat the Pro Football Pointspread by J.R.Miller.He would say in a ten year succession of numbers the size of what the amount of plays you've made that you are bound to have a large group of losses bunched up in there somewhere.Perhaps if you haven't read it already you might gain something from doing so.Congrats on one thing,you are super honest.Everyone who plays this sport gaming thing has experienced a losing streak.
 
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GM,
I've seen you around for a few years but have never gotten involved in one of your threads.From an overall veiw I'm really wondering if the change in compitition has changed.NFL being the most popular sport has (as everyone knows) the most squarest action.Are we the squares now?We're all looking for a live dog and under the total.I'm really thinking that the line is now a reflection of what used to be the sharper players.
Just a thought.
 

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I dont know, I bet one under one over 4 dogs and 2 favs. Its hard to say although I favor getting points I hate betting unders but always play my best under and my best over every week.
 

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Hey guys, thanks for all the responses. Nice to see some people out there are winning (bastards.... :D). Glad to see you're hitting those parlays and teasers Agent, but I know that is not a route I will go. I'm not a believer in par's and tease's at all. But if they work for you...more power to ya.

No, I won't go "all in". I just can't do it. I had one experience years ago where I went very, very large on a baseball game trying to recoup my losses (back when I still bet that $*@*$ sport). I did win the bet in the end - thanks to the Astros scoring something like 4 runs with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th - but I damn near had a heart attack listening to it over the 'net, and swore I would never put myself in that position again.

If I have to take a loss, I have to. I set up an initial bankroll (though I didn't deposit the full amount...I've never had to). But I had planned to budget X dollars if need be. So now my accounts are pretty tight and I've got to decide if I expose the remainder of my bankroll, or I just shut it down and say to hell with it, rather than compounding things. I tell ya, no amount of money management is going to save me when I'm picking 39 frickin' % !! I'm not a real believer in being "due" (I've always thought that was a flawed idea).... but dammit, I'm due! :D Seriously, I can't see how I can go on picking at this rate. And the confidence is really shot when you work very hard on it, as I did last week, and then just see bet after bet after bet go down. After a while you don't know if you can trust your own judgement or not anymore and then you start doing stupid, nonsensical things. What was I doing taking a 5? point favorite on Monday? I absolutely HATE laying more than 3 on ANY game unless I have seriously compelling reasons to do so. But...I wasn't thinking straight at that point I guess. I know better.

I'm going pretty light this weekend. I do NOT want to handicap the games and then sit out, only to see everything win...I couldn't stand to see that. So it's either go light, or don't watch the games at all.

Bluelight - I believe you CAN beat the pros. I've been doing it almost every year for years now. The thing is I think the NFL is different than every other sport, including CFB and CFL (they may be football, but they are not the NFL). And I think that's why I've never done well at any sport other than the NFL. Seems to me it has it's own unique mindset. I bet the NBA or CFL occasionally, and I have to pretty much throw out all that I know and 'cap those games completely differently... and it never feels right.

Houston Gambler - Interesting thought, that was. There have got to be a lot fewer bad lines than in the past, just due to the fact there are so many more people doing this, there's SO much information out there, and bad lines are going to be hammered before people like you or I ever get a chance to see them. I've never really believed that the "average" guy ever would learn. You could tell them to take the dogs til you were blue in the face, and they just weren't going to see it. But now, maybe, the message has finally gotten through to enough people.

Edludes - Yes, I've read pretty much everything JR Miller has written on his site...but not his books. This guy seems to stir up a lot of controversy. I think the guy really has some good ideas, and he certainly understands mathematics, probability, etc. But I have also heard he's had multiple losing seasons for his customers. Basically my read on him was "learn his theories, but avoid his actual picks". LOL

Sorry to anyone else I didn't mention by name. No slight intended...but this post could go on forever. I am never short on things to say when it comes to sports betting. :) All comments were appreciated.
 
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well I'll say it:

season's not over...long long way to go....and oh yeah.....I suck at the NFL.....think I'm down like 8 billion dollars!! Oh, and I am prostituting myself to Alaskan crab fisherman.......but hey, remember it's still early!
 

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gm....i have struggled 1st 4-weeks as well...i usually am a slow starteer, but never this bad.
havent put togother a positive week yet in nfl.
im sure itll turn our way.

heres my take.....i know 4-local books....all have lost big money so far this yr.... 2-of them told me they had the worst week ever last week....these guys have been in bussiness 20+ yrs....these guys are friends, they have no reason to bullshit me....i know all bookies claim theyre getting killed.
one of the books is a very good friend of mine and i see hes sheets and he got hammered last week.
he says, his worst square players are even winning and winning big....

gm, keep cappping....this will turn our way and in huge way my friend....the books will get all their losses back and plenty more. we will win right along with them....im sure of it.
stick it out, theres alot time left.

gluck all, burgh..
 

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Agree with STEEL here, my guy almost always is 'pulliing' for me to have a good week, b/c if Im winning, then most of the rest arent, so to speak.

Last week was my worst NFL sunday this young season, and thats with plays on the Giants and Steelers. Ugh.

Cut your units in half and stabalize a winning % over the next two weeks. Watch the games, go over the final boxes, pbp's and figure out why youre winning/losing each one. You will turn it around.
 

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I have been telling friends "I feel like I do not have a clue this year in the NFL or college.My post record here at MJ's is 11-11 not horrible but considering after week #1, I was 5-1 things have gone south since.Hopefully light is at the end of the tunnel yesterday I didn't post my college games but I actually went 6-2.
I am sticking to the theory that I am never a super handicapper when I go 7-1 in one day and I am not that bad a Capper when I go 1-7.It is a marathon not a sprint.Believe in what you're doing,try to stay positive.You post some great stuff.
 

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As i stated last week in my thread this is the worst season ive had in a while. I also am friends with a couple locals and have watched some games with them this year. Theyve been getting hammered around here. lucky for them ive been gettting hammered. this will change hang in there.
 

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GM-Absolutely right about MR Miller.I am not saying you should buy his picks,he hasn't been the same since his brother died,but you won't regret investing in that book.There is a method he gives for forecasting NFL scores that is very helpful to me,among many other pointers.I'm sure things will turn around.GL either way
 
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