The state of gun violence in the US, explained in 18 charts
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Of course not. The Republicans aren't into facts because they get in the way of what they are trying to do.
VOX is a LIBERAL PIECE OF SHIT SITE.
One doesn't have to watch any of their shit to KNOW what it's all about.
JMHO
FWIW
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One doesn't have to watch any of their shit to KNOW what it's all about.
JMHO
FWIW
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Facts aren't your thing. No problem, we understand.
http://www.alternet.org/media/science-fox-news-why-its-viewers-are-most-misinformed
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/17/fox-news-viewers-are-the-_n_798146.html (with Fox's rebuttal)
Ok, Christ, I watched the first two charts, which I'm pretty sure are typical of the rest in this video.
First chart listed "Mother Jones" as a source of data. That's like listing Fox News as a source of data. Embarrassing.
the other source of data listed on that chart was the study last year by David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center.
David Hemenway states:
1- "Most shootings of four or more people are usually in homes and other private settings, and are related to family violence. These do not seem to have been increasing. But mass public shootings have become more common."
Well, that doesn't help Mother Jones argument that all these guns is increasing shootings in recent years, when their guy says it isn't increasing in one very important area. But Mother Jones and Vox skew it to focus only on the one that is increasing.
2- "I don?t know if anyone knows why mass shootings have increased in the U.S. Some of the increase may be copycat killings due to the massive news coverage of both the shootings and the shooter."
The forensic psychiatrist Park Dietz spoke on this phenomenon, 2009 BBC interview:
We?ve had 20 years of mass murders throughout which I have repeatedly told CNN and our other media, if you don?t want to propagate more mass murders, don?t start the story with sirens blaring. Don?t have photographs of the killer. Don?t make this 24/7 coverage. Do everything you can not to make the body count the lead story, not to make the killer some kind of anti-hero. Do localize the story to the affected community and make it as boring as possible in every other market. Because every time we have intense saturation coverage of a mass murder, we expect to see one or two more within a week.
Now, I have no doubt that if you significantly reduced the amount of guns in the US, you'd get less killings.
But given the ubiquity of guns, ease of smuggling, and the die hard 2nd Amendment yahoos, the only possible change in US would be rather marginal, and I've never seen anyone making a decent argument that a marginal decrease would affect the murder rate much. But it might the suicide rate. Which is addressed next in the Vox chart in this. Except they don't try to make that very decent argument, they...
This second chart was such a howler I laughed out loud!
US at the top of suicides by country - you never see this.
Ok, let's see how they managed this one.
Oh, instead of the usual comparisons of US vs European, or group US with similar countries by infrastructure development, or Gross National Income per capita, or educational attainment - they used countries at the top of the Human Development Index....Have you ever heard of it?....it's an index that shows the human potential development, adjusted for inequality. How far you can go, or personally achieve in a country, if there were no inequality.
But it is the one, and the only one, chart you could put up that has US on the top, this HDI statistic.
It is deceptive because most folks glancing at it would be surprised to learn that Iceland, Finland, Belgium, France, Japan and South Korea all have higher suicide rates than the US. But they do. And most folks don't know how the HDI, or it's peculiarities....
Well...at the risk io pissing in the soup of the fact deniers-
But...there is a little good news too - in a hundred years or so, our rate of gun killings may be down near the rest of the civilized world.
But...there is a little good news too - in a hundred years or so, our rate of gun killings may be down near the rest of the civilized world.
