The ultimate indictment of Fox News

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"Ugly" Zell Miller Reminiscent of Buchanan


Zell Miller's speech reminded ABC and CNN reporters of Pat Buchanan's 1992 address -- and they didn't mean it as a compliment. CNN's Bill Schneider contended that "I've never heard such an angry speech." Joe Klein of Time magazine declared on CNN: "I don't think I've seen anything as angry or as ugly:

some headlines to ponder...

wednesday morning editions....


• Zell Miller “Angry,” “Harsh” and “Ugly,” Reminiscent of Buchanan
• Miller Tells Matthews to “Shut Up,” Wishes to Arrange a Duel
• Zell Miller’s Segregationist Past Suddenly Relevant to Matthews
• CBS Publicizes “Cheney & Halliburton Made Killing in Iraq” Sign
• Gregory Tags Cheney “Dark Figure,” Charges He Must Change Policy
• Bush’s Visit to Firefighters Has “Kind of Hokey Exploitive Feel”
• CBS Lays Out Case that Bush’s Anti-Terrorism Policies a Failure
• CBS and ABC Stress How GOP Trying to Disguise True Agenda
• Brokaw: GOP Platform Alienates Women, Convention Skips Bad News
• After Tribute to Reagan, PBS’s Lehrer Blames Deficit on Tax Cuts
Wednesday Afternoon Editions

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• Networks Rougher on Lynne Cheney than Elizabeth Edwards
• Wondering If Bush-Backing Zell Miller Is Really a Democrat
• Washington Post Shows How NBC Nightly News Skews Its News
• NBC’s Today Hosts GOP Critics; No Anti-Democrats Five Weeks Ago
• CBS’s Smith Asks Ex-President Bush About Loony Left Theory
• During Both Conventions, Leftist Moore Shows Up on NBC
• ABC Reporter Still Fretting Over “No Girlie Men” Buttons

Wednesday Morning Editions:


• Brokaw Rues Missing Bad News, Shriver Shows “Clenched Teeth”
• CNN: Bush Loss Means GOP “Too Far Right,” Rue Moderate Hesitancy
• MSNBC Sees Conflict Between “Compassion” and Gay Marriage Ban
• NBC Blames Conservatives for Alienating Log Cabin Republicans
• Brokaw Tells Moderate: “You Have No Place in This Convention”
• ABC: Bush “Surrogates” Spreading False Charges Against Kerry
• ABC’s Snow Suggests Anti-“Girlie Men” Button Will Offend Some
• CBS Frets About How GOP Stars Overwhelm Democratic Spin
• Hosts of ABC’s The View Gang Up on Giuliani for Backing Bush...and more!


Executive Summary

Over the next four months, the media establishment will play a central role in informing the public about the candidates and the issues. As the countdown to Election Day begins, it is important to remember the journalists who will help establish the campaign agenda are not an all-American mix of Democrats, Republicans and independents, but an elite group whose views veer sharply to the left.

Surveys over the past 25 years have consistently found that journalists are more liberal than rest of America. This MRC Special Report summarizes the relevant data on journalist attitudes, as well as polling showing how the American public’s recognition of the media’s liberal bias has grown over the years:

Journalists Vote for Liberals: Between 1964 and 1992, Republicans won the White House five times compared with three Democratic victories. But if only journalists’ ballots were counted, the Democrats would have won every time.



Journalists Say They Are Liberal: Surveys from 1978 to 2004 show that journalists are far more likely to say they are liberal than conservative, and are far more liberal than the public at large.



Journalists Reject Conservative Positions: None of the surveys have found that news organizations are populated by independent thinkers who mix liberal and conservative positions. Most journalists offer reflexively liberal answers to practically every question a pollster can imagine.



The Public Recognizes the Bias: Since 1985, the percentage of Americans who perceive a liberal bias has doubled from 22 percent to 45 percent, nearly half the adult population. Even a plurality of Democrats now say the press is liberal.
 

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Fear and Terror you guys to see thru the smoke. I hope.
 

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BEAM ME UP SCOTTY!
Kdogg21 said:
and you know what's funny..half of those headlines are sad but true...


This is why you can't see bias anywhere but Fox, because you use your slanted personal views as the guide...

But at least you admit it here.
We have a winner!
 

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Once again you morons spout off about the great American lie that is the liberal media bias. It must be easy knowing that anytime you get credit for something, you deserve it, but anything critical of you isn't deserved - it's just those f*cking liberals in the media again.

Everything written or broadcasted will always have some sort of slant to it; that's just human nature. But the constant harping on the liberal media, esp. by DTB and Gardenweasel, is just a joke.

These are the political headlines RIGHT NOW. (There may be less headlines right now than normal due to the hurricane that is supposed to hit Florida).

from CNN
? Bush speech to cap convention
? Protesters disrupt events:
Day 3: "A Safer World, a Hopeful America"

From ABC
-John Kerry attacks the president on war in Iraq during speech to veterans.
-Nightline: Vice President Dick Cheney's big night at the convention.
-Vice President Cheney goes on the offensive.

from NBC
-A 'visionary' speech In his address to the GOP convention, the president will highlight his plans for a second term
MORE FROM THE GOP CONVENTION
? Curry: Cheney's hits and misses
? Democrats blast GOP tone

from CBS
? Bush To Tout His Record
? Talk Radio Loves GOP Convention
? Building Bush's Big Speech - Recent History Suggests President Will Hit Familiar Points
? Cheney, Miller Attack Kerry

I tell ya... the bias is just oozing from these...
 

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ironlock said:
This is why you can't see bias anywhere but Fox, because you use your slanted personal views as the guide...

But at least you admit it here.
We have a winner!

This has to be the funniest post ever made here at Madjacks.

Eddie
 

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The reality is that our republican and right wing friends have successfully utilized the tactic of the best defense is an offense. No matter how ridiculous the position, they arrogantly defend it with an I don't care attitude.

To wit:

The media is liberal.
We invade Iraq because that country is a threat to the USA.
Lawyers cause doctors to quit practicing medicine.
Bush ducks Viet Nam yet has Kerry on the defensive about his war record.

These guys are good. They are exceptionally good at convinicing the less intellectual members of this society (the vast majority) that they are the real Americans draped in the flag.

No gay marriages, no restrictions on business, no accountability for wrongdoing, lower taxes for the wealthy, destruction of the middle class, destruction of personal freedoms, destruction of the Constitution, alienating our allies, deaths of tens of thousands, permitting criminals (Bin Laden) to escape justice, using fear to win votes. This is a partial list.

Despite the foregoing, Bush has people convinced he is the man for the job and will most likely win re-election. He is good. Maybe not as dumb as I thought.

The barbarians are not at the gate. There inside.

Eddie
 

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speaking of gay marriages.....we have another Jesse Jackson on our hands here in Illinois....



Keyes' gay slam roils GOP

September 2, 2004

BY ABDON M. PALLASCH Staff Reporter Advertisement


NEW YORK -- Illinois Republican Chairman Judy Baar Topinka said Wednesday her party's nominee for U.S. Senate, Alan Keyes, should apologize for his "idiotic" comment vice presidential daughter Mary Cheney and all homosexuals are "selfish hedonists."

But Keyes refused to back down Wednesday, even as Vice President Dick Cheney addressed the Republican National Convention.

"In a homosexual relationship, there is nothing implied except the self-fulfillment, contentment and satisfaction of the parties involved in the relationship," said Keyes, who holds a Ph.D from Harvard University. "That means it is a self-centered, self-fulfilling, selfish relationship that seeks to use the organs intended for procreation for purposes of pleasure. The word pleasure in Greek is hedone and we get the word hedonism from that word."

Keyes emphasized it was a reporter, not he, who brought up the name of Mary Cheney.

"You have intervened in order to try to personalize the discussion of an issue that I did not personalize," Keyes told reporters at an Illinois delegation caucus. "The people asking me the question did so and if that's inappropriate, blame the media. Don't blame me."

In an interview with CNN, Mary Cheney's sister, Elizabeth, responded to Keyes' remarks by saying, "I'm not going to dignify it with a comment."

Focusing on abortion, gays

While conservatives won the battle to get language into the official party platform backing an amendment to outlaw gay marriage, speakers at the convention -- their speeches cleared with party officials -- have stayed away from the hot-button issue. Party leaders do not want to alienate the small number of undecided voters in key swing states that will decide the election.

Illinois Republican leaders likewise have urged Keyes to move from abortion and gay marriage to economic issues.

"I told him, 'You've got to start focusing on things that unite Republicans and not on things that divide Republicans,' " said Cook County GOP Chair Gary Skoein.

U.S. Rep. Judy Biggert (R-Ill.) also criticized Keyes' initial comment on Sirius OutQ satellite radio and said she, like U.S. Rep. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.), needed to know more before deciding whether she would support Keyes.

After days of criticism that he had not addressed the Illinois delegates, Keyes finally made his speech Wednesday morning, hijacking the podium from DuPage County Board Chairman Robert Schillerstrom, who had only asked for a round of applause for Keyes. Realizing Keyes intended to speak, Schillerstrom admonished him, futilely, to "Please make it very brief."

Building up to his trademark high-decibel fever pitch, Keyes shouted, "We shall deal with the challenge that is being mounted today to the family structure throughout our country: Gay marriage activists who are demanding that we should take marriage off the foundation of procreation, child rearing, responsibility to the future, that is the true heart of marriage and place it on a basis of selfishness, pleasure-seeking and self-fulfillment."

Some delegates clapped enthusiastically. Other rolled their eyes and clapped silently. Topinka stayed in another room during his speech.

After his eight-minute speech, Keyes was asked if heterosexual couples who don't or can't have children are hedonists.

"The heterosexual relationship is haunted by the possibility of the child, which means you have to commit yourself somewhere to your head to the possibility of a lifelong commitment that involves not only selfish pleasure but sometimes sacrifice."

'A new low'



As he moved to a new place to take reporters' questions, his spokeswoman suggested he had taken enough questions. He disagreed, telling her, "This is a teaching moment."

Keyes said he would be just as blunt with his own daughter as he has been in response to questions about Cheney's: "If my own daughter were a homosexual or lesbian, I would love my daughter, but I would tell her she was in sin," he said.

Keyes' Democratic opponent, state Sen. Barack Obama, addressed the issue after a speech at the Illinois AFL-CIO convention in Rosemont. "I have strong disagreements with Vice President Cheney on a whole host of policy issues, but I respect the love he has for his daughter, and I think that it's never appropriate to make the sort of comments that have been made," Obama said. "I think it's going to be up to the Republican Party to figure out whether they reflect an inclusive and generous spirit, or whether they want to reflect some of the bitterness we've been hearing lately."

Christine Iverson, a Republican Party spokeswoman, said the former talk show host's comments were "not worthy of the dignity of a response.''

The Log Cabin Republicans, a gay and lesbian organization, denounced Keyes' remark.

"In a political career defined by failures, this is a new low for Alan Keyes," executive director Patrick Guerriero said in a statement Wednesday. "Attacking politicians' children is beyond the pale, even for an extremist like Alan Keyes."

Contributing: Chris Fusco, AP
 

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ironlock,

The item about Fox News' ratings for the Democratic Convention placing 6th came from the same Yahoo! News article that reported Fox News beating the broadcast networks for viewers on the Tuesday of the Republican Convention. That 6th place finish during the Democratic Convention was widely reported at the time by a number of sources as the first week in ages that MSNBC and CNN actually beat Fox News. Only O'Reilly was winning his time slot during the Democratic Convention.
 

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DTB & SixFive,

I think you guys and I see the same things, we just have different views on how to solve the problems. To SixFive, I'd say Fox is further right than "moderate". In a way that's splitting hairs, though. I can't argue with whoever was ripping Brokaw in this thread. My parents are as liberal as can be and they've loved this guy forever.

To DTB, I like the O'Reilly column you linked to. The problem I have with it is that he ignores the fact that people have different starting points in life. People are greatly influenced by their environment. In concise terms; nurture will always outweigh nature in determining how we live our lives. It's easy to tell people the "truth" (as O'Reilly sees it) about life, but it's hard for a person who grows up in or lives in a difficult environment to understand it.

I thought the Bono interview on O'Reilly's show was enlightening for a number of reasons. Obviously learning about the AIDS problem in Africa was part of it. Another part was seeing O'Reilly react to an educated, insghtful liberal. Bono's answer to O'Reilly's standard criticism of, "these 'compassionate' programs end up wasting money because corrupt officials steal from them," was, "so what?" Making positive change in the world is a difficult journey. Just because some people take advantage of your good will doesn't mean that you should abandon those that you are trying to help. Just because teacher's unions take advantage of the system, doesn't mean you should cut funding for the students that many of them try to help. Just because people irresponsibly get pregnant doesn't mean you should stand idle while a family spirals into pverty. And just because unhealthy food and alcohol send so many people into poor health doesn't mean they should be left without health care while living in the best country in the world.
 

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There is no perfect world and the good and bad both steal from it what they can. Start with non profit churches. They do ok for them selfs. I remember the haul Jim Baker made on all those suckers. Farwell if they ever get into his books they might find another. Good and Bad alike take what they can get.
 
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