The Worst Football Coach In The Universe

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The Worst Football Coach in the Universe: Introducing Notre Dame's Charlie Weis.

By Jonathan Chait

Posted Thursday, Oct. 25, 2007, at 2:51 PM ET

"Charlie Weis has returned Notre Dame to relevancy. Just two years ago, as Notre Dame spiraled toward mediocrity under Ty Willingham, a shot at a national title seemed improbable. But the schemes and the discipline Weis has installed have revived past glories. The only question on the Irish offense comes on the line. But considering the way Weis turned castoff linemen into solid starters with the New England Patriots, that should not be a huge concern."?New York Times, Aug. 27, 2006

In the entire history of American sports hype, has there ever been any fraud more grossly fraudulent than Notre Dame football coach Charlie Weis?

Weis' Fighting Irish now stand at 1-7. This record is only the faintest indicator of just how awful Notre Dame is. They have lost nine of their last 10 games, by an average of 24 points. None has been close. While Notre Dame has suffered very few injuries, three of its opponents have had to play the Irish without their starting quarterbacks. Two of those teams, USC and Michigan, nonetheless beat Notre Dame by a larger margin than either has beaten any other opponent so far this year. Notre Dame's lone win came against UCLA, which had been forced to use its third-string quarterback, a walk-on. In that game, Notre Dame compiled just 140 yards of offense, but won with the help of seven Bruin turnovers, five of them hand-delivered courtesy of the hapless walk-on signal-caller.

Just how bad is Notre Dame? Of the 119 teams in Division I-A, ND is 119th in total offense, 119th in rushing offense, 112th in passing offense, and 118th in scoring. If Notre Dame had doubled its scoring output, it would still rank 108th. If it doubled its rushing output (currently 34 yards a game), it would barely eke out Duke for 118th place.

You get the point. I should stop now.

OK, one more. Notre Dame is averaging 1.09 yards per rush this year. The NCAA statistical archive goes back only to 1999. The worst yards per carry recorded in that period belongs to a 2001 University of Arizona squad that gained 1.46 yards per attempt. So, the worst rushing team recorded by the NCAA in the last nine years was still about one-third better than Notre Dame.

This is not merely bad. This is ineptitude on a staggering, world-historical scale. Such a performance would be prima facie evidence for firing the coach even at a doormat program like Indiana. At a school like Notre Dame, well ? it's simply impossible to describe how awful this performance is. It's true that Notre Dame has suffered a dip in its talent level, attributable to poor recruiting by Weis' predecessor Tyrone Willingham. But if you go by recruiting rankings, Charlie Weis still has as much or more talent on hand than most of the opponents who have been beating him soundly.

So, Weis is obviously not a great coach?no great coach has ever underperformed so grossly?and he may well be a terrible one. So, why was he ever hailed as a genius in the first place?

The giant edifice of fraud that is Weis' reputation is actually a series of smaller frauds piled on top of each other. The foundational myth is that he was a brilliant offensive coordinator. Weis came from the New England Patriots, who had just won a Super Bowl. Every player and coach associated with a Super Bowl winner is usually subjected to a certain level of hype, and Weis is no exception. But Weis was actually quite ordinary. During his eight seasons as a coordinator, six of his teams finished in the bottom half of the league in total offense. Patriots quarterback Tom Brady has graciously shared credit for his success with Weis, even though the Patriots offense has been dramatically better?seventh in the league, on average?since Weis left.

The myth grew after Weis was appointed at Notre Dame and started proclaiming his own brilliance. He told his players, "Every game you will have a decided schematic advantage." After struggling to salvage his first recruiting class, he announced to the press, "Now it's time for the X's and O's. Let's see who has the advantage now."

Having primed the national media to receive him as a conquering hero, Weis enjoyed a tidal wave of publicity in 2005, his first year at Notre Dame. His crowning achievement was a narrow loss at home to a USC team then thought, erroneously, to be among the greatest ever. (The 2005 Trojans, who lost to Vince Young and Texas in the national championship game, had great skill position talent but a weak, injury-riddled defense.)

This first season was seen as the start of a new dynasty. In truth, Notre Dame was bound to improve, given the natural maturation of a couple of excellent Willingham recruiting classes. But Weis' first two teams weren't really that good. The 2005 and 2006 Notre Dame teams had a total of one win over an opponent that finished in the top 25, and they were administered several beat-down losses.

Coming into this year, Notre Dame was still picked to finish in the top 40. Blue-Gray Sky, a Notre Dame blog, polled its nine contributors before the year began, and the average predicted record was slightly better than 9-3. It looks like Weis will fall a wee bit short of that. The difference between that predicted record and Notre Dame's actual record is a good measure of the difference between Weis' reputation as a coach and his actual ability.

Being a head coach in college involves very different skills?motivating kids, teaching basic skills?than being a coordinator in the NFL. Even good NFL coordinators, like Cam Cameron and Dave Wannstedt, have struggled as college head coaches. Maybe Weis did sometimes turn castoff linemen into solid starters in the NFL, but at Notre Dame, he can't turn blue-chip prospects into passable players.

But don't worry, Notre Dame fans. In a few years, the Irish will return to glory again, when Weis' recruits get to play for a coach who isn't horrible.
 

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Even a diehard ND fan has to be shocked at all of this...........Gerry Faust had his teams play more competitive than this bunch..........

The really bad nightmare for irish fans is that its not going to be much better in years to come.....I dont see any promising players on the field for the future........
 

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Weis vs. Willingham: The numbers might surprise you

By Jon Wilner

Monday, October 22nd, 2007 at 10:40 pm in Notre Dame.

When I saw the final score of the Notre Dame-USC game, something about it caught my eye. It wasn?t that USC demolished the Irish. The score itself ? 38-0 ? looked familiar.

So I did some checking and found that not only did Notre Dame lose to Michigan by that same 38-0 score last month, it also lost to Michigan 38-0 under Tyrone Willingham.

That got me thinking: How does Charlie Weis? performance compare to Willingham?s?

I looked at their records in South Bend through 33 games, how each fared against Notre Dame?s biggest rivals (Michigan and USC) and against ranked opponents, and how many blowout losses they each suffered.

In my estimation, Weis? numbers are no better than Willingham?s and quite possibly worse.

He has that 34-31 loss to USC on his resume. (Has any coach ever gotten more mileage out of a loss?) But Willingham did better against Michigan and significantly better against ranked opponents.

***Record through 33 games

Willingham: 20-13
Weis: 20-13

***Record vs USC

Willingham: 0-3
Weis: 0-3

***Point differential vs USC

Willingham: -93
Weis: -61

***Record vs. Michigan

Willingham: 2-1
Weis: 1-2

***Point differential vs. Michigan

Willingham: -28
Weis: -57

***Record vs. ranked opponents

Willingham: 7-8
Weis: 4-8 with no ranked opponents left
(Numbers based on rankings listed in the UND media guide for 2002-2006)

***Losses by 20 points or more

Willingham: 8 in 36 games
Weis: 7 in 33 games

***Losses by 30 points or more

Willingham: 5 in 36 games
Weis: 3 in 33 games

In addition, this year Weis has overseen Notre Dame?s:

* Worst opening-day loss ever (33-3 to Georgia Tech)

* Worst start ever (0-5)

* Worst loss to USC (38-0)

* Worst home loss in 51 year (38-0 to USC)

Oh, and don?t forget the seven-game losing streak and those five consecutive 20-point losses, both of which date to last season.

Willingham was fired for poor performance and because, in the larger sense, his third-year mark of 6-5 didn?t represent enough progress.

Let?s say Notre Dame goes 2-2 down the stretch ? not at all unrealistic. In that case, Weis would have the same number of losses as Willingham, and one more win.

And the best Weis can do in this, his third year, is 5-7.

Any chance he?ll get fired?

We all know the answer to that.
 

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He's not going to get fired because he's white . . . or maybe because back to back BCS games gets a coach a little leeway or maybe because he has the #1 recruiting class in the nation despite being 1-7 or maybe it's because he hasn't publicly stated that it's tough to sell a recruit on the uniqueness of South Bend or maybe it's because Frosh and Sophs have been responsible for 80% of the yards this year.
 

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It's been a really sad season for a great kid - TE John Carlson, who is from our home town. Pre-season all-American, unreal run blocker, great hands big, fast, and an A student. He stayed for his senior season because he is such a good, loyal kid and because he certainly thought a top final season would project him into early draft day success. This season is so horrible, and he is so dramatically underutilized now that I fear his stock will drop.

I'm very hopeful the Vikings or Chiefs (learn from Gonzo) take a shot at him. They will be rewarded.

Weiss simply looks lost to me. And maybe the Athletic Director will Weiss up and try to scale back that killer schedule a tad. Great to play top schools, but take a week off occasionally. EVERY other team in the country does.
 

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Great to play top schools, but take a week off occasionally. EVERY other team in the country does.


Things should get a bit easier next 4 weeks:

Navy
AF
Duke
Stan


I am predicting 2-2 to close out the year. Given the arrogant nature of C. Weiss, I would prefer to see 0-4:scared
 

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Fact is Weis is trying to win with ty's pathetic players. the o-line Ty recruited couldn't keep a team of cheerleaders from a qb. In 2009 Weis' players will be seniors and The Fighting Irish will be #1. :SIB
I know all the jealous haters out there don't want to hear it but its true!!!!!

I don't remember Ty having recruiting class in the top 100.. Weis' class next year is ranked #1
http://notredame.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?school=55
 
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Final 3OT
Navy (5-4) 46
Notre Dame (1-8) 44



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I just looked again, YUP, Navy still beat em!!

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46-44!!!!

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I don't think Weis should get all the discredit. Give some to Brady Quinn, certainly one of the most overrated QBs in history. He was flat scared in his bowl game last year, which was a shame, because ND could have beaten LSU.
 

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As a ND fan, I love Weis... The funny thing is Weis is the best recruiter since Gerry Faust and I think we all can agree that it's much more difficult to recruit now than back in the 80's...

Weis did well with Willingham's veteran players when he was first hired, but he struggled with young players this year. The big question now is can he develop talent on the college level. I guess we will see in 2008.

I love the fact everyone who hates ND kills Weis... If he's such a bad coach, then you should love it... The funny thing, Weis never lost to friggin' Louisana-Monroe... What a joke.
 

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As a ND fan, I love Weis... The funny thing is Weis is the best recruiter since Gerry Faust and I think we all can agree that it's much more difficult to recruit now than back in the 80's...

Weis did well with Willingham's veteran players when he was first hired, but he struggled with young players this year. The big question now is can he develop talent on the college level. I guess we will see in 2008.

I love the fact everyone who hates ND kills Weis... If he's such a bad coach, then you should love it... The funny thing, Weis never lost to friggin' Louisana-Monroe... What a joke.

Wow, how far back did you have to go to dig up this 6 week old post? :shrug:
 
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