Thinking of buying a new home? do it before Jan 14, 2014

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I have a realtor friend who has 20+ years experience.

Had not seen him at the YMCA in six weeks.

I asked him yesterday where he has been?
He is working 24-7 selling homes NOW...."Making hay while he can"

He said "After Jan 14th, next to no one will be able to buy a home."

New mortgage laws will be enforced...

Here is jest of it..the really bad one is "Debt to Income Ratio, Ability to pay the Mortgage"


Entire article here...http://www.thecreditsolutionprogram.com/how-new-mortgage-rules-will-affect-homeowners/

















Under the new 2014 mortgage rules, lenders are assumed to provide what the CFPB calls a ?qualified mortgage.?

By definition, lenders must: Limit points and fees to no more than 3% of the loan amount, not offer risky loans with terms that extend beyond 30 years, promote ?teaser rates? that are interest only, or are based on similar risky terms like negative amoritization schedules that eventually lead to significantly higher monthly payments.

Though having a down payment and positive credit history will still be a key aspect to securing the historically low mortgage interest rates advertised, beginning in January of next year under the new mortgage rules, your debt to income ratio is the deciding factor as to whether you?ll be approved for a mortgage or refinance.

By law, the new mortgage rules require that lenders ensure that you are financially able to make your mortgage payments and it?s all based on keeping your housing costs reasonable in relation to your income, and other debt obligations.

Under the new ?Ability-to-Pay Rule,? borrowers cannot exceed a 43% debt to income ratio, which is your total monthly debt divided by your total monthly gross (before tax) income.

For a person or family with an $80,000 a year salary, monthly debt shouldn?t exceed about $2,800. Further, borrowers must prove financial standing, with current paycheck stubs, credit history, employment status, bank statements, and proof of other assets.
 

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So, from what you're saying....people will have to buy what they can afford?


That would be a shame if that was the policy over the last 25 years.
 

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I have a realtor friend who has 20+ years experience.

Had not seen him at the YMCA in six weeks.

I asked him yesterday where he has been?
He is working 24-7 selling homes NOW...."Making hay while he can"

He said "After Jan 14th, next to no one will be able to buy a home."

New mortgage laws will be enforced...

Here is jest of it..the really bad one is "Debt to Income Ratio, Ability to pay the Mortgage"


Entire article here...http://www.thecreditsolutionprogram.com/how-new-mortgage-rules-will-affect-homeowners/

















Under the new 2014 mortgage rules, lenders are assumed to provide what the CFPB calls a ?qualified mortgage.?

By definition, lenders must: Limit points and fees to no more than 3% of the loan amount, not offer risky loans with terms that extend beyond 30 years, promote ?teaser rates? that are interest only, or are based on similar risky terms like negative amoritization schedules that eventually lead to significantly higher monthly payments.

Though having a down payment and positive credit history will still be a key aspect to securing the historically low mortgage interest rates advertised, beginning in January of next year under the new mortgage rules, your debt to income ratio is the deciding factor as to whether you?ll be approved for a mortgage or refinance.

By law, the new mortgage rules require that lenders ensure that you are financially able to make your mortgage payments and it?s all based on keeping your housing costs reasonable in relation to your income, and other debt obligations.

Under the new ?Ability-to-Pay Rule,? borrowers cannot exceed a 43% debt to income ratio, which is your total monthly debt divided by your total monthly gross (before tax) income.

For a person or family with an $80,000 a year salary, monthly debt shouldn?t exceed about $2,800. Further, borrowers must prove financial standing, with current paycheck stubs, credit history, employment status, bank statements, and proof of other assets.

Sounds reasonable to me.
 

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It is very reasonable...but too late

It is very reasonable...but too late

Glad everyone here is a totally responsible citizen..



Just wonder who is going to pick up all the foreclosures to be dumped?

What will happen to property values, when hardly anyone qualifies for the mortgage?

Going to be very interesting, come 2014.
 

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the hell you say!...no more wink-wink, nudge-nudge loans?....lending institutions will now demand proof of earnings?....whoa!...what an innovative idea!!...
 

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Just wonder who is going to pick up all the foreclosures to be dumped?

What will happen to property values, when hardly anyone qualifies for the mortgage?

Going to be very interesting, come 2014.

Years ago the debt to income ratio was in the low 30% area. This just sounds like a way the banks figured out how to get higher interest rates.

And I was paying 11% back in the 70's for a home loan.

Homes are selling again, the prices are going back up, builders are building, and now they're going to pull the plug?
 

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the hell you say!...no more wink-wink, nudge-nudge loans?....lending institutions will now demand proof of earnings?....whoa!...what an innovative idea!!...

:lol:
 

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I have a realtor friend who has 20+ years experience.



Under the new ?Ability-to-Pay Rule,? borrowers cannot exceed a 43% debt to income ratio, which is your total monthly debt divided by your total monthly gross (before tax) income.

For a person or family with an $80,000 a year salary, monthly debt shouldn?t exceed about $2,800. Further, borrowers must prove financial standing, with current paycheck stubs, credit history, employment status, bank statements, and proof of other assets.

This pretty much eliminates the majority of middle class Americans from buying a home. Sounds great for the housing recovery...or lack thereof thus far. The current level of home ownership in this country is 65%. We're already back to 1980 levels!
 

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This is good if the goal is to reduce failed mortgages, but the conspiracy theorist in me thinks the long term goal is to reduce the rate of home ownership in the country, so that everyone from middle class down to the poor will be renting from the rich. Forever.
 

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Just wonder who is going to pick up all the foreclosures to be dumped?

What will happen to property values, when hardly anyone qualifies for the mortgage?

Going to be very interesting, come 2014.

This is good if the goal is to reduce failed mortgages, but the conspiracy theorist in me thinks the long term goal is to reduce the rate of home ownership in the country, so that everyone from middle class down to the poor will be renting from the rich. Forever.

Pretty sure that's what Dead Money is getting at.
 

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This is good if the goal is to reduce failed mortgages, but the conspiracy theorist in me thinks the long term goal is to reduce the rate of home ownership in the country, so that everyone from middle class down to the poor will be renting from the rich. Forever.

:facepalm:
 

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i`m actually trying to give the gov`t credit for doing the right thing...this time....


second time the gov`t has intervened...this time to prevent lenders from doing what the government pressured them to do over a ten-year period, in order to avoid another collapse....

at least we learned from our mistakes...

bravo....:0074


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This is good if the goal is to reduce failed mortgages, but the conspiracy theorist in me thinks the long term goal is to reduce the rate of home ownership in the country, so that everyone from middle class down to the poor will be renting from the rich. Forever.

Not really conspiracy theory if it's the plan layed out by the elites and central planners. Middle class being squeezed out. Wages, jobs, home ownership. Get ready for a shit storm coming our way.
 

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i`m actually trying to give the gov`t credit for doing the right thing...this time....

Me too. Sorta.
But in the grand scheme of things if the end result, decades down the line is much lower rates of home ownership, well I think there are some business interests that will be A-OK with that.

I honestly believe that government should get out of the mortgage business, and banks should be able make any sort of loans they want. So long as the American public doesn't have to bail those banks out when their poorly conceived mortgages fail. But that gets into the politics of it all, and I don't want to be the one that gets this thread moved. :0008
 

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This is good if the goal is to reduce failed mortgages, but the conspiracy theorist in me thinks the long term goal is to reduce the rate of home ownership in the country, so that everyone from middle class down to the poor will be renting from the rich. Forever.



Well, my father told me about 30 years ago: "Get the fuck outta my house!"


He also said, "Son, family homes are going to be like family farms some day in this country......if you aren't born into one, you will never own one."


He's been getting closer to right every year.
 

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i`m actually trying to give the gov`t credit for doing the right thing...this time....

Your joking right. Do the right thing? The government can do nothing right. From one extreme to another with the housing loans once this is enacted. Bad business.

:SIB
 

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Well, my father told me about 30 years ago: "Get the fuck outta my house!"


He also said, "Son, family homes are going to be like family farms some day in this country......if you aren't born into one, you will never own one."


He's been getting closer to right every year.




Interesting......
 
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