Who else is watching this? I feel like I'm going to fall asleep. Just rhetoric, rhetoric, rhetoric. Time to watch the Sox/Yanks instead.
This debate sucks
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It's so sad that in a country as large as ours that these two bozo's are the best we could come up with! I don't know how anyone in their right mind could vote for Bush (I voted for him last time and I readily admit I am insane) but has this guy answered one question that has been asked of him tonight? Every time he is asked something he seems to go to education which is not one of his strong suits or else about Kerry being a liberal. Attacking Kerry for being a liberal is too funny as Bush has spent our cash at a faster pace than any liberal that I can recall (only Dem I recall is Clinton) as president. Kerry's plans are far fetched and while they would be great for the country more than likely the yare unattainable. All I can say is lets hope Jesse Ventura runs in 2008 if these clown's are the best we can come up with.
Didnt Kerry look like Dopey from Snow White. he looked like he had not slept for a month. Bush looked like he had just snorted a 8-ball of Coke before the debate as his facial expressions made him look like a moron.
Well looks like another win for Kerry as he really laid out the damaging kitchen table fodder against Bush, health care, take home pay, middle class paying the brunt of taxes, and I think Bush really looked bad when asked what he would tell someone whom lost their job to outsourcing. His answer of education made very little sense, sort of made him come off as not caring, while there is nothing wrong with education what is this person to do to feed their family, pay their mortgage etc...Kerry was again weak on terror but he did hit some points about our borders being worse off now then before Bush took office. Bush did get some good points driving home how liberal Kerry was but you had to love Kerry's comment on Bush lecturing on fiscal responsibility like Tony Sorprano lecturing him on crime laws. Well ABC News, MSNBC and CBS all have Kerry winning but my scorecard is even Kerry won on the bread and butter issues and Bush on terror and taxation.
You guys are so right on!! For the non-americans participating in these moronic discussions, there is a world-wide perception that americans are stupid. perception??
Kerry's remark about him marrying up was a gaff if you ask me.
Then Kerry kissed Laura Bush on the cheek in greeting which I
think was inappropriate. George W watched and was saying to
himself I am not going to kiss that Heinz ketchup.
Boring debate.
The american public knows so little about what really goes on in our goverment its pathetic. They speak in circles and a language that no one can understand but them and their closest friends.
Money, greed, and power. They are not accountable to anyone once elected. They can say anything and how does the average american verify who is telling the truth. Its so complicated only the mensa members can follow along.
Does George W have any incentive to pass Health Insurance for all americans after he is elected ? Nope. And it won't happen.
I just hope the election is with integrity so the people of the world
will understand what democracy stands for.
Then Kerry kissed Laura Bush on the cheek in greeting which I
think was inappropriate. George W watched and was saying to
himself I am not going to kiss that Heinz ketchup.
Boring debate.
The american public knows so little about what really goes on in our goverment its pathetic. They speak in circles and a language that no one can understand but them and their closest friends.
Money, greed, and power. They are not accountable to anyone once elected. They can say anything and how does the average american verify who is telling the truth. Its so complicated only the mensa members can follow along.
Does George W have any incentive to pass Health Insurance for all americans after he is elected ? Nope. And it won't happen.
I just hope the election is with integrity so the people of the world
will understand what democracy stands for.
Scott,
I completely agree with you, personally after three debates I see really little difference between either party just a bunch of bull$hit with no soloutions. As far as Bush having a plan for healthcare well you must of missed his answer it is EDUCATION!
I completely agree with you, personally after three debates I see really little difference between either party just a bunch of bull$hit with no soloutions. As far as Bush having a plan for healthcare well you must of missed his answer it is EDUCATION!
KERRY EDWARDS SIGN
KERRY EDWARDS SIGN
HOW DID YOU GET THAT KERRY EDWARD SIGN UNDER YOUR NAME?
THANKS
BEACHBOY
KERRY EDWARDS SIGN
HOW DID YOU GET THAT KERRY EDWARD SIGN UNDER YOUR NAME?
THANKS
BEACHBOY
The american public knows so little about what really goes on in our goverment its pathetic
SCOTT U NAILED IT.
I LOVE SEEING THOSE LOSERS HOLDING SIGNS. FIGHTING EACH OTHER FOR TV COVERAGE. SAD SAD PEOPLE.
SCOTT U NAILED IT.
I LOVE SEEING THOSE LOSERS HOLDING SIGNS. FIGHTING EACH OTHER FOR TV COVERAGE. SAD SAD PEOPLE.
BEACHBOY said:
I saved it to my desktop off the www.johnkerry.com website, and emailed Jack to see if he'd put it up for me. However, with only 16 posts, I don't think you can get a custom avatar. If I'm not mistaken, there is a post requirement.
i just hope the government can provide me with all my needs and wants
the rich are not paying their fair share either..Master Capper and John Kerry hit it right on the button....
a guy making 2 Million/ year pays about 500,000$ in taxes / year (thats with generous deductions....he will be lucky to get it down to that)
a guy making 50$ K / year pays about 5000$ and less if he deducts wisely
a guy making 2 Million working for 30 years pays the equivalent of THREE THOUSAND WORKING YEARS of this middle class income....
THREE THOUSAND!!!!!
and Master Capper and John Kerry have the nerve to say that he is not paying enough.....LMAO...BULLXXXX!!!
Lets rape him of more of his $$ so he has less to invest, donate towards charity, and pay his workers......
and give it to the government for some real wise spending!!! LMAO
The foolishness of liberal thinking is such an abomination
the rich are not paying their fair share either..Master Capper and John Kerry hit it right on the button....
a guy making 2 Million/ year pays about 500,000$ in taxes / year (thats with generous deductions....he will be lucky to get it down to that)
a guy making 50$ K / year pays about 5000$ and less if he deducts wisely
a guy making 2 Million working for 30 years pays the equivalent of THREE THOUSAND WORKING YEARS of this middle class income....
THREE THOUSAND!!!!!
and Master Capper and John Kerry have the nerve to say that he is not paying enough.....LMAO...BULLXXXX!!!
Lets rape him of more of his $$ so he has less to invest, donate towards charity, and pay his workers......
and give it to the government for some real wise spending!!! LMAO
The foolishness of liberal thinking is such an abomination
to me it looks like Bush has no plans for jobs for the economy. Education, great thats nice and all, but that still isn't gonna get you a job if there is none around and your letting people overseas take it.
BBC,
Education was Bush's answer for al lthe problems.
Dr. Freeze,
Please show me where I said that the rich should pay more taxes? I can feel your frustration with Bush's sad performance in all of the debates as one would have to wonder if this man has any plan for the next four years becuase if he does he sure did not lay them out for the american people. Funny you attack me about tax and spend but people like you and Bush are the true spenders as no other President in my lifetime has destroyed the budget with unneccasary spending sort of makes William Clinton look frugal!
Education was Bush's answer for al lthe problems.
Dr. Freeze,
Please show me where I said that the rich should pay more taxes? I can feel your frustration with Bush's sad performance in all of the debates as one would have to wonder if this man has any plan for the next four years becuase if he does he sure did not lay them out for the american people. Funny you attack me about tax and spend but people like you and Bush are the true spenders as no other President in my lifetime has destroyed the budget with unneccasary spending sort of makes William Clinton look frugal!
Why am I a spender? I think we should cut ALL social security and let people save their own money.
I think we should cut all spending on welfare and let people get on their own two feet and go to charities which hold them accountable if they need money.
YOU are the spender and YOU said this:
"Well looks like another win for Kerry as he really laid out the damaging kitchen table fodder against Bush, health care, take home pay, middle class paying the brunt of taxes"
about taxes....
THE MIDDLE CLASS DOES NOT PAY THE BRUNT OF THE TAXES!!
GET THAT INTO YOUR THICK HEAD. THEY HARDLY PAY ANYTHING IN TAXES.
I dont understand how anyone could be so deceived or be able to get up there on a podium and make such claims again and again with no accountability.
I think we should cut all spending on welfare and let people get on their own two feet and go to charities which hold them accountable if they need money.
YOU are the spender and YOU said this:
"Well looks like another win for Kerry as he really laid out the damaging kitchen table fodder against Bush, health care, take home pay, middle class paying the brunt of taxes"
about taxes....
THE MIDDLE CLASS DOES NOT PAY THE BRUNT OF THE TAXES!!
GET THAT INTO YOUR THICK HEAD. THEY HARDLY PAY ANYTHING IN TAXES.
I dont understand how anyone could be so deceived or be able to get up there on a podium and make such claims again and again with no accountability.
Well if the middle is not paying thern take it form others that got it. Whats the problem. Get your money from wherever you can. But dont run the country in the ground just so someone can say I now have 1 million Ha Ha instead of only 999998. Do you really think he missed that 2 grand.
The only thing I remember about the debate is Kerry talking about the lesbian daughter of VP Chaney.
Debates are always boring.
Debates are always boring.
Yup good point. And he's getting chit for it to. Question on choice. As if she per Bush has a choice to be gay or not. I wonder when Bush desided witch way he wanted to go. The other question I remember was one that never got answered. At least by Bush. Mr. Bush what are we going to do about jobs. Well were going to educate people was his answer.
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Dr Freeze,
Get it through your thick skull that what I said is that Kerry played to the middle class on issues that are decisive to them such as health care which is a huge issue for people that are not making big $$ or have no coverage, take home pay which has dropped since Bush took office according to Kerry and the middle class paying a higher % of their take home pay to taxes according to Kerry. I did not say that I agree with what he said but he does score points with people in the middle class for talking about diner table issues that have a direct effect on their everyday lives. Bush had his opportunity and each time he evaded the questions and launched into a dissertation on education which is not his strongest suit as the No Child Left Behind Program is a mess due to lack of funding which may or may not be his fault as these guys spin so much its hard to tell where the blame lies. Even a staunch myopic Republican like yourself would have to admit when Bush was served a softball question of "what do you tell the Americans that have lost their jobs due to outsourcing", he completely struck out scoring points with the middle class. He came off as cold and having no compassion when he went on about education, while there is no doubt that education is a vital cog but is John Smith age forty years old with three kids and a spouse suppose to go to a community college for two years after losing his $16 a hour job and everything will work out? How is his family going to eat, what about his mortgage, credit cards, college tuition? Do you think most Americans in times like this with a terrible economy have built up a nest egg that they can afford to take two years off to go full time to a community college and still make it with a family? Don't get me started on ACCOUNTABILITY as this administration has been the most unaccountable administration in my lifetime it's always someone else to blame for their failures. I don't think Kerry is the answer but I know Bush is not the answer thats why I support neither for election they both have no clear cut fresh ideas just the same old schemes that do not work!
Get it through your thick skull that what I said is that Kerry played to the middle class on issues that are decisive to them such as health care which is a huge issue for people that are not making big $$ or have no coverage, take home pay which has dropped since Bush took office according to Kerry and the middle class paying a higher % of their take home pay to taxes according to Kerry. I did not say that I agree with what he said but he does score points with people in the middle class for talking about diner table issues that have a direct effect on their everyday lives. Bush had his opportunity and each time he evaded the questions and launched into a dissertation on education which is not his strongest suit as the No Child Left Behind Program is a mess due to lack of funding which may or may not be his fault as these guys spin so much its hard to tell where the blame lies. Even a staunch myopic Republican like yourself would have to admit when Bush was served a softball question of "what do you tell the Americans that have lost their jobs due to outsourcing", he completely struck out scoring points with the middle class. He came off as cold and having no compassion when he went on about education, while there is no doubt that education is a vital cog but is John Smith age forty years old with three kids and a spouse suppose to go to a community college for two years after losing his $16 a hour job and everything will work out? How is his family going to eat, what about his mortgage, credit cards, college tuition? Do you think most Americans in times like this with a terrible economy have built up a nest egg that they can afford to take two years off to go full time to a community college and still make it with a family? Don't get me started on ACCOUNTABILITY as this administration has been the most unaccountable administration in my lifetime it's always someone else to blame for their failures. I don't think Kerry is the answer but I know Bush is not the answer thats why I support neither for election they both have no clear cut fresh ideas just the same old schemes that do not work!
