This is just wrong violating rights of school graduates

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Native American Feather Sparks Graduation Debate: Schools' Tough Rules for Grads


This year, graduation has become a battleground for some school officials and students.

With schools tightening restrictions on who gets to walk, seniors are fighting for their rights in the last hours of their high school careers.

Take 17-year-old Chelsey Ramer. Her private school, Escambia Academy, is holding the Alabama grad's diploma and transcripts until she pays a $1,000 fine?all because she hung a lone eagle feather alongside her cap?s tassel during her May 23 commencement ceremony.
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Other recent incidents seem just as extreme: In Tennessee, honors student Austin Mendoza was banned from his graduation ceremony after he missed a mandatory rehearsal because he had to go to work to help pay for college.

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Texas straight-A senior Lauren Green, meanwhile, has been barred from taking part in her upcoming June 7 ceremony for allegedly drinking at her prom; she claimed the accusation wasn?t true and filed a lawsuit against the school, which was dismissed.

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And in New Mexico, a transgender student was essentially pushed out of his commencement ceremony by being told he had to wear a white robe, for girls, instead of a black robe, for boys, at the private St. Pius X school. As a result, the student, Damian Garcia, chose to skip the event. ?I?m fully respecting this and myself by not walking and/or attending the ceremony at all,? he said in a Facebook post.

?When it comes to students expressing their First Amendment rights, disciplining students by not allowing them to graduate is unacceptable,?

Gabe Rottman, legislative counsel for the ACLU, told Yahoo! Shine, adding that his office has seen an uptick in aggressive discipline in schools lately.

?Not only is that punishment disproportionate to the crime, but the schools are missing out on an opportunity to teach students the value of freedom of expression.?


Having strict policies is a trend that?s been building for a while, though, as 2012 also brought a rash of pushed-out graduates?including Justin Denney, in Maine, whose superintendent sent him back to his seat with no diploma after he impulsively bowed and blew a kiss to his family.

"There was no misbehavior. Showboating is not misbehavior," his mother, Mary Denney, had told WMTV News 8. "A bow, a kiss to your mom is not misbehavior. There was no need of my son not getting his diploma."


Also last year, in Cincinnati, high school senior Anthony Cornist was denied a diploma after his family?s ?excessive? cheers apparently disrupted the graduation ceremony at Mt. Healthy High.

"I will be holding your diploma in the main office," read a letter from principal Marlon Styles, Jr.,

"due to the excessive cheering your guests displayed during the roll call."

He then demanded 20 hours of community service from Cornist, who told the news station, ?I did nothing wrong except walk across the stage.?

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And then there was Kaitlin Nootbaar, the valedictorian of Oklahoma?s Prague High School, who dared include the word ?hell? in her speech. As a result, the school held back her diploma and demanded an apology. ?She earned that diploma. She completed all the state curriculum,? her father, David Nootbaar told KFOR-TV news. ?In four years she has never made a B. She got straight A?s and had a 4.0 the whole way through.?

Attorney Jason Bach, whose Education Litigation Group represents students in Las Vegas, Chicago and Austin, attributes this sort of zero-tolerance discipline, which has been increasing in recent years, to "institutional arrogance." Creating rules without thinking through how they will apply to individual situations, he told Shine, provides an easy out for administrators.

"It's convenient for the schools," he said, who "won't have to make judgment calls if they have a rule they can apply brainlessly."

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Dawson's Landing Mo. June, 3, 2013

David "puddinhead" Wilson was denied his diploma from Dawson's Landing High School after administrators discovered Wilson was collecting fingerprints of high school faculty members and running unauthorized investigations into their backgrounds. David's full scholarship to the prestigious Mark Twain School of Law has been rescinded pending further investigation.
 

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I vaguely remember all sorts of drama and intrigue in the 4 years I was in high school. So and so got caught drinking and was off the team, so and so did this and won't get to do that.

Who knew that kinda stuff would become nation-wide news just a generation later. :sadwave:
 

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As I get older, turned 63, (yeh I know, old-fuk) it appears that the pendulum has swung far much towards winking an eye at the young element that flaunts basic Societal Rules...

I am glad some brave institutions take a stand.
What legal "rights" has a pimpled 17 year HS student earned when told to obey his teaching mentors?


Here is todays "outrage" http://news.yahoo.com/100-students-ejected-nyc-atlanta-flight-210505331.html



Most of the current high school graduates are going to be hamburger flippers or military fodder, they might as well get used to walking a straight line early in life.
A college degree is not a guarantee of anything in future employment when there are next to no real jobs.
 

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Scrapman.....graduation and the ceremony is a principals toughest job....I could write a book about all my years as a principal and the ceremonies.....all schools are different...but I always treated it as the greatest recognition of achievement...a " right of passage"....respect the dignity of the ceremony....we had a code of conduct...that included dress code,behavior,etc...in some cases districts go to far in not allowing students to "walk".Every principal in the country remembers the Justin Denny kid up in Maine...we all need to use common sense...their were many of my students who I didn't allow to walk.....they graduated and got their degree but not that night...and for many reasons...but not for over due books and things like that...
After 23 years at one school I left and became a asst principal at another...the HS had a very informal graduation ceremony..it was one of the worst nights of my life...felt worse then losing 3 state basketball finals...the low of my 38 years in education that night...no dress code,kids wearing shorts under their robes,beach balls,noisemakers,and horns throughout the ceremony..fire crackers going off...and we were honoring two World War II men who never got their diploma because they went overseas....I wasn't on stage with the principal and all the board members...I was chasing down beach balls as everyone was laughing....but as I chased down the beach balls I kept saying to myself..." this will never happen again"...because that was the tradition at this school all those years...long story short but I had it out with my principal that night in his office...and everything changed...the following year....no principal in NY state had better graduation ceremonies then me....students and parents loved it..

.. told this story here many years ago...It's titled "Juan Samuel and graduation" Way back being a diehard Philly fan I bought about 30,000 Juan Samuel baseball cards...I thought he was going to be the next Willie Mays....spent over $400 on his cards buying in bulk....well Juan never got close to willie and all those cards were worth about 3 cents..his rookie card 5 cents....how do I get rid of them....My school would take 200 at risk kids to a Valley in upstate for the weekend and work on respecting each other and many other things...we played games,slept in cottages did all sorts of peer leadership things...as the school buses came to pick us up i gave each student a Juan S card and told them " this is a get out of jail card for a minor offense in school....
4 years later I'm walking to the parking lot after school and I see a senior crying and upset..he told me guidance said I can't take part in the graduation ceremony tomorrow because I don't have $40 for my lost chemistry book and owe some library books...I was about to tell him " don't worry,your walking" when he opened his wallet and took out a 4 yr old Juan Samuel card and asked me, Mr. Box can I still use this...I said "yes you can..your walking as I took the card"...the following afternoon my secretaries and guidance are putting all the diplomas in order...I took his diploma out and inserted back Juan's cards...that night at graduation I gave him and another 350 diplomas out...when all the names have been read I looked over at the senior class and he had raised diploma with the Juan card in the other hand....no one on stage knew but myself what he was doing....he kept that card for 4 years...I cried telling people that story for many years..I'm tearing up now...
 

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I didnt attend my college graduation ceremony. I was expelled from high school with a couple of weeks left before finals, so was in attendance, but only to watch my friends graduate. I didnt graduate with my 8th grade class because I had I attended 8th grade at my high school, which is common in Nola. The only graduation I've ever experienced is kindergarten, and I can't remember that one
 

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I didnt attend my college graduation ceremony. I was expelled from high school with a couple of weeks left before finals, so was in attendance, but only to watch my friends graduate. I didnt graduate with my 8th grade class because I had I attended 8th grade at my high school, which is common in Nola. The only graduation I've ever experienced is kindergarten, and I can't remember that one



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I walked for my bachelors degree and high school degree, I wore khaki pants and long sleeve white button down with a tie to both...
 

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Prior to my HS graduation (many years ago), one of my classmates was told he couldn't walk due to owing a school fee of $50 or so. The principal said "let's see what we can work out" and they went out to his car. The classmate popped the trunk, the principal took the spare tire and the deal was struck. Problem solved.
 

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When I was a principal, one of my teachers and I were working with a student trying to just get him through school. For some reason, he really liked the metal podium in the teacher's classroom. We told him that he could have it if he graduated. When the ceremony was over, he went down to the classroom and grabbed it. Our last memory of him was running across the school lawn in his cap and gown carrying that podium and his diploma.
 
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When I was a principal, one of my teachers and I were working with a student trying to just get him through school. For some reason, he really liked the metal podium in the teacher's classroom. We told him that he could have it if he graduated. When the ceremony was over, he went down to the classroom and grabbed it. Our last memory of him was running across the school lawn in his cap and gown carrying that podium and his diploma.

Motivation and praise light fires under peoples behinds. I bet you were a terrific educator!
 

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WELL about thier being no real jobs my son has had several REAL jobs since 2007

he now is training manergerial position with budget rent a car. The one he was working at wanted him to stay there offered him all kinds of perks and stuff trying to scare him off the new position by saying that there's no guarantee of moving up !

He is liked everywhere he has worked and each job pays him average of $40,000 a year!

So as far as Real jobs out there i have to say that it's what these kids are willing to work at after graduation!
 
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