this Recession: cause and cure

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The severity and depth of this recession wasn't caused by the financial crisis, or the housing market.

The housing bubble started bursting in 2006, banks somewhat later, but real GDP rose almost continuously thru middle of 2008. It's after that demand started sharply falling across a wide sprectrum of industries.

As economist Scott Sumner wrote: "The prevailing view was that the financial system was the fundamental problem and falling demand was a symptom. I never understood this argument, as modern macro [economic] theory says falling AD [aggregate demand] is a symptom of monetary policy that isn?t expansive enough. Now perhaps things are getting bad enough that people are beginning to understand that it does no good to bail water out of a boat if it is coming in even faster through a hole in the hull."

Sure enough, monetary economists that monitor the Federal Reserve were getting alarmed in 2008 at the contraction of the money supply that was taking place.


Looks to me like the Fed was belately responding to criticism that their "easy credit" policy (targeting nominal GDP at 5% instead of 3% or so--NGDP is GDP plus inflation) was fueling the housing boom, and they responded like they have alot in the past--slammed on the brakes too late and too fast. This caused big drop in AG and slammed the housing and banking sectors, already in crisis, in a big way.

The Fed was also trying out some new and untested ways of using monetary policy to affect the credit markets at this time too. James Hamilton, a very mainstream macroeconomist, wrote about this in his popular blog.

I'm not saying the problems in housing and banking aren't relevant. In hindsight, politicians of both parties fixing and pushing entities so unqualified buyers could obtain mortgages was dumb (but that doesn't explain why the smartest guys from ivy league schools running the biggest investment firms thought it was brilliant to pour hundreds of billion dollars into these mortgages). Large problems in sectors like that can cause GDP and price changes, though historically not big ones. But they can't affect the NGDP--that's entirely the creation of the Fed.

That nominal GDP and nominal prices falling to the negative levels by 2008 wasn't anything a rational mortgage investor would have predicted in 2006. Plus, even if rapidly expanding the money now it does't help boost a rise in real GDP soon--the rising nominal prices will at least help the balance sheet of the banks in a big way, instead of killing them.


So yes, I think this recession, or mild depression, is mostly (tho not all) the result of bumbling Federal Reserve policies: tight money caused the NGDP to plumment, stabbing the housing and finance sectors at almost the worst possible time. The Federal Reserve has done this before. Even Ben Bernanke, a renowned academic scholar on the Fed, admits that the Federal Reserve caused the Great Depression.


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As I've said before, we won't know for years the full story of this crisis and it's causes. But examining the evidence across a wide range of opinions, I think this explanation is the one that will hold. Though it is a very minority opinion! Even so, some economists might not agree that tight money is what turned this housing/finance caused slowdown, or mild recession, into a depression--but many of those economists do see the need for monetary stimulus. The monetary economist Scott Sumner (from whom I've stolen alot for my post here!) argues for unconventional monetary stimulus to be used in a big way now. Even liberal economist Paul Krugman has recently called for it (tho he still puts old-fashioned Keynesian fiscal stimulus first on this list)

The Federal Reserve has increased the monetary base by gobs in recent months, but looking at inflation and it's long term expectations (that is, the CPI and TIPS- 10 yr TIPS today is at implied 1.40% inflation, up 40 bps recent weeks) increases in MB ain't moving things much. Plus, some other usual routes for them to increase money supply are closed due to 0% interest rate. Hence the call for unconventional monetary stimulus. For those folks worried about hyperinflation, Weimar or even Zimbabwe style, Sumner had a good post on that.

It's only after this monetary stimulus, and wringing all the resulting AG increase we can get from it, that bank's balance sheets will improve, that banks can get lots of folks to loan funds to--and we can do some effective fixes in the banking and housing sectors.
 

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it`s quite simple,dude...the deficit is ALL bush's fault and obama is going to "cut it in half."...

/keep repeating until you get nauseated...
 

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the deficit is ALL bush's fault and obama is going to "cut it in half."...the deficit is ALL bush's fault and obama is going to "cut it in half."...the deficit is ALL bush's fault and obama is going to "cut it in half."...the deficit is ALL bush's fault and obama is going to "cut it in half."...the deficit is ALL bush's fault and obama is going to "cut it in half."...the deficit is ALL bush's fault and obama is going to "cut it in half."...the deficit is ALL bush's fault and obama is going to "cut it in half."...the deficit is ALL bush's fault and obama is going to "cut it in half."...the deficit is ALL bush's fault and obama is going to "cut it in half."...the deficit is ALL bush's fault and obama is going to "cut it in half."...
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I think its working :00hour
 

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Funny how no one addmits it,s cause in part was greed. And how fast we forget a tax policy that didn,t come close to covering the budget. Or lack of one. And our wonderful banks giving money away like candy.
 

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it`s quite simple,dude...the deficit is ALL bush's fault and obama is going to "cut it in half."...

/keep repeating until you get nauseated...


Good read TR. Thanks for posting.

GW,
I think you mean debt, not deficit. I won't bother to explain the difference to you. You backed a guy who TRIPLED the debt and DOUBLED the size of government and had no problem with it. Good for you.
 

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. You backed a guy who TRIPLED the debt and DOUBLED the size of government and had no problem with it. Good for you.
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gw

why didnt this ever bother you ?

were you oblivious of what was going on ?
 

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Nov 1, 2010 Update

Nov 1, 2010 Update

Update!

lookee here, the Fed is finally coming around! 2 fukkin' years too late!

Federal Reserve Statement from Oct 12:

"With short-term nominal interest rates constrained by the zero bound, a decline in short-term inflation expectations increases short term real interest rates (that is, the difference between nominal interest rates and expected inflation), thereby damping aggregate demand. Conversely, in such circumstances, an increase in inflation expectations lowers short-term real interest rates, stimulating the economy. Participants noted a number of possible strategies for affecting short-term inflation expectations, including providing more detailed information about the rates of inflation the Committee considered consistent with its dual mandate, targeting a path for the price level rather than the rate of inflation, and targeting a path for the level of nominal GDP."

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since I posted the missive which started this tread, many more economists have been coming around to this position. It is no longer a tiny minority, but a nicely growing one.

Here's a good post on inflation and NGDP targeting, with lots of good links explaining it.

The Federal Reserve is meeting these next few days, an announcement is expected Wednesday to engange in some more quantitative easing. Too late and I hope I'm wrong in thinking it will be too little...
 

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Good read TR. Thanks for posting.

GW,
I think you mean debt, not deficit. I won't bother to explain the difference to you. You backed a guy who TRIPLED the debt and DOUBLED the size of government and had no problem with it. Good for you.

Jabbers GW didn't vote for Obama--

Thanks for article Terry

It is scarey just just how fragile this economy is crank up printing machine to enable us to borrow our own money at 0 rates .

Fed Will Probably Start $500 Billion of Bond Buys, Survey Shows


The Federal Reserve is likely to start a fresh round of unorthodox stimulus tomorrow by announcing a plan to purchase at least $500 billion of long-term securities, according to economists surveyed by Bloomberg News.
Policy makers meeting today and tomorrow will restart a program of securities purchases to spur growth, reduce unemployment and increase inflation, said 53 of 56 economists surveyed last week. Twenty-nine estimated the Fed will pledge to buy $500 billion or more, while another seven predicted $50 billion to $100 billion in monthly purchases without a specified total. The remainder said the Fed would buy up to $500 billion or didn?t quantify their forecast.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...ce-500-billion-of-purchases-survey-shows.html

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on flip side of coin we have China-India-Australia-Canada and others are raising interest rates to cool off growth and inflation-
Australia's unexpected rate hike.

India raises rates too.


while we--

QE2 expected to total $500-$750B. A survey conducted by Blue Chip Financial Forecasts of leading economists showed 47.9% expect the Fed to buy between $500B and $750B of government bonds in the plan likely to be announced tomorrow. An overwhelming 93% say the market impact is largely priced in. Critics say financial gains from QE2 are just ?fool?s gold? to spur consumers into spending more when their net savings rate is already negative. Thus, QE postpones ?the necessary rebalancing of the U.S. economy.?
 
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