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I read this on another forum....

:facepalm:

this is the kind of metrosexual p.c. bullshit that is turning our children into whimpering pussies....and i don`t believe for one second that the majority of people buy this horseshit...

slowly but surely our progressive school system is indoctrinating our kids into this mindset ...a mindset where the ridiculous doctrine and demands of the academic elite(the extreme minority) outweigh the realistic life experience of the majority....

/spit...
 
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AAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!! I couldn't remember what it was - I remember hulk beating that guy down.

:142smilie

I was at the WWF event in Evansville, IN when the Ultimate Warrior fought Sgt. Slaughter after Sgt. Slaughter defected over to the Saudis and tag teamed with Iron Sheik.

What's strange about looking this up is that the youtube videos of this are from a much larger event. I guess they try out themes in smaller venues before launching them to the big events?

This was in '91.
 

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Screw the lil bully. He deserved everything he received and more. I do think it is fair for the tormented fat kid to receive a punishment due to the severity of his reaction, but they should "throw the book" at the bully and the bully's friends, who watched and recorded this premeditated incident.
 

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Screw the lil bully. He deserved everything he received and more. I do think it is fair for the tormented fat kid to receive a punishment due to the severity of his reaction, but they should "throw the book" at the bully and the bully's friends, who watched and recorded this premeditated incident.

why is that?...wasn`t proportionate?....getting punched in the face doesn`t warrant self defense?....

how was he supposed to get the kid to stop?....a harshly worded letter?...
 

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why is that?...wasn`t proportionate?....getting punched in the face doesn`t warrant self defense?....

how was he supposed to get the kid to stop?....a harshly worded letter?...

I did not say anything of the sort. The reality of the situation is that when a fight occurs both parties are generally punished. Noot that there were many, but both parties were punished in every fight I was involved in at school growing up. My point is that the fat kid should receive a far lesser punishment than the bully and his cronies. You can make this into one of your PC rants, but in the end your argument is flawed from where I sit.
 

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I did not say anything of the sort. The reality of the situation is that when a fight occurs both parties are generally punished. Noot that there were many, but both parties were punished in every fight I was involved in at school growing up. My point is that the fat kid should receive a far lesser punishment than the bully and his cronies. You can make this into one of your PC rants, but in the end your argument is flawed from where I sit.

well,why is that?...given that theres physical evidence that the kid did nothing more than defend himself...equal punishment can`t be justified by anyone with two neurons to rub together...

this wasn`t a disagreement...it was an assault... a premeditated assault that was being filmed...

this kid didn`t kick the assailant in the face a few times when he was down(which is what i would have done)...he just wanted to be left alone...

this is the perfect example of the p.c. bullshit i was referring to...everything is morally equivalent....

well,it`s not..

i wonder how much of a beating the school honchos would have preferred this kid to take before defending himself?...

it`s the bizarro world...insanity...

sheesh....
 
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well,why is that?...given that theres physical evidence that the kid did nothing more than defend himself...

this wasn`t a disagreement...it was an assault... a premeditated assault that was being filmed...

this kid didn`t kick the assailant in the face a few times when he was down(which is what i would have done)...he just wanted to be left alone...

this is the perfect example of the p.c. bullshit i was referring to...everything is morally equivalent....

well,it`s not..

i wonder how much of a beating the school honchos would have preferred this kid to take before defending himself?...

it`s the bizarro world...insanity...

sheesh....




I am totally on the side of the fat kid. I cheered him on, and initially I even felt he did not deserve a punishment. Then, I realized that the provoker and provokee were both punished in every school fight I have witnessed or been involved in. I still feel that the bully and his peeps deserve a heavier sentence. Maybe a week suspension to a day for fattie. Violence in self-defense is still violence. I think that is a lesson that serves our youth well, and a lesson that I feel has defintely served me well.


FWIW, my wife thinks I am a wacko because I taught my children from pre-K on that not defending yourself is not an option. My 5yo knows that I will punish him if I find out he was physically assaulted without fighting back.
 

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Screw the lil bully. He deserved everything he received and more. I do think it is fair for the tormented fat kid to receive a punishment due to the severity of his reaction, but they should "throw the book" at the bully and the bully's friends, who watched and recorded this premeditated incident.

you said..."I do think it is fair for the tormented fat kid to receive a punishment due to the severity of his reaction"....

what would you have had him do?...he probably can`t fight(and that`s probably the very reason he was singled out)....

i`m curious...
 

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HAHHAHAHA

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Looks like we are not the only ones fascinated by this video...
It seems he has a website dedicated to him as well as a facebook fan page. Someone has even started a college fund for him..

http://www.caseyheynes.com//

this just speaks volumes about our educational system....what`s the message?..."it`s better to possibly be hospitalized than to stand up and protect yourself from a humiliating and potentially dangerous beatdown?"......

conflict resolution is a very tricky issue when you find yourself getting repeatedly punched in the face...you don`t have a whole lot of time to consider your options...

i`m getting a headache and i have to hit the road...

peace,my brothas...:thumb:
 

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you said..."I do think it is fair for the tormented fat kid to receive a punishment due to the severity of his reaction"....

what would you have had him do?...he probably can`t fight(and that`s probably the very reason he was singled out)....

i`m curious...

I am glad he handled the way he did, and as his father I would applaud his reaction. Just saying that he deserves punishment, though hopefully a lesser punishment than the bullies, just like everyone else who participates in a schoolyard fight.

When I taught my young kids to fight back, I did so knowing that they will likely be punished for their actions. My dad is at my house this morning. He says that both parties were normally punished in schoolyard fights in his day. Was that not the case in your time? I am curious....
 

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beat ya to it:SIB

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Poor kid
 
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Poor kid

After that interview this kid is gonna have more pussy than he can handle.......:0074
 

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Of course the "non-bully" should receive some kind of punishment. Otherwise you'd have fights going on all the time - and much of the time administrators/teachers are coming into the situation without knowing exactly what happened - and often wouldn't get the true story from either party or those around the fight. I am happy he did what he did, but honestly, do any of us know the history of these two? Do we know if the big kid had been in any other fights? Maybe so - I welcome the info, would be interesting to know.

Sorry, Wease - trying to blame this on the educational elite is weak, IMO, but not unexpected. I think Cie is dead on the money here. I mean the big kid did something really dangerous in response, and broke the other kids ankle - after not receiving all that much serious punishment. What if he'd lost his balance and dropped the kid and broke his neck instead? To let his re-action go with nothing doesn't make sense. I'd be quite pleased if he was my son and did it, don't get me wrong. But you can't let that go on in a school with no reprimand.
 

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The ankle wasn't broken. The 12 year old was fine.

And if you watched one of the 5 interviews the kid (and family) have done you'd know he'd been picked on for many years.
 
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