just watch the post game conference for The Bengals ,Head coach Marvin lewis was so out of it spirit down in the dumps,Terrell owens says i have no excuses or explanations maybe im just bad luck but all i know is that were flat out terrible ,who know when might finish 2-14, this team is down and out and now there playing on a short week on the road against the jets. Leaning on the Jets just a lil worried about the 8 1/2 since they gave up a 17 point lead pretty quickly last week,But i think if buffalo can blow the bengals the jets should be fine
thoughts on Cinci vs jets feel free to add
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Good teams find a way to win..and certainly Jets have taken advantage of every break to reach the record they have...
But man o man this Jets team is just not that good yet..Can they be..certainly I believe they can
But this team is 3 gifts from an average record ..
Somebody is going to get their chops busted by this Jets team when they take that dump again and nobody hands them toilet paper for the mess they make..
All three of New York?s games this month have gone down to the wire even though those opponents have a combined 9-21 record.
line is +9 now..
that courtesy TD at the end of the game when Jets are up 15 can make a great day of Thanksgiving fixin's taste like crappola real quick..
good luck whatever way ..
But man o man this Jets team is just not that good yet..Can they be..certainly I believe they can
But this team is 3 gifts from an average record ..
Somebody is going to get their chops busted by this Jets team when they take that dump again and nobody hands them toilet paper for the mess they make..
All three of New York?s games this month have gone down to the wire even though those opponents have a combined 9-21 record.
line is +9 now..
that courtesy TD at the end of the game when Jets are up 15 can make a great day of Thanksgiving fixin's taste like crappola real quick..
good luck whatever way ..
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i think you make a good point about the jets old school and i was worried about the backdoor cover in this game as well.and the jets definitely been fortunate to come away with several of there wins this season,so i cant see putting much on this game,but if you listen to the post game conference it really sounds like this bengal team has given up
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i think you make a good point about the jets old school and i was worried about the backdoor cover in this game as well.and the jets definitely been fortunate to come away with several of there wins this season,so i cant see putting much on this game,but if you listen to the post game conference it really sounds like this bengal team has given up
Breaking down The Collapse
If the New York Jets had lost the game to Houston, blowing a 16-point lead, it would've been the second-biggest fourth-quarter collapse for a home game in team history. In 1960, the Jets -- known as the Titans -- blew a 17-point lead to the Boston Patriots.
So it would've been a historic meltdown. After breaking down the tape, here's how the unthinkable almost happened:
THE FUMBLE
Things started getting out of control when Shonn Greene fumbled with 9:23 left in the game, the Jets seemingly in control with a 13-point lead. Greene blamed it on a miscommunication and a bad exchange. In reality, there were a few forces at work here. Yes, it was an awkward exchange between him and Mark Sanchez, but Greene did have possession of the ball. It wasn't like he was bobbling it as he went into the line. He also was undermined by bad blocking on a well-designed run blitz by the Texans.
LG Matt Slauson, who admittedly had a rough day, let DE Mark Anderson beat him cleanly. Anderson knifed into the backfield and made the initial hit on Greene. LB Brian Cushing came free on a stunt and stripped the ball. C Nick Mangold, looking lost, didn't block anyone.
THE DEFENSIVE COLLAPSE
Defensively, the fourth quarter was one of the lowpoints of the Rex Ryan era. They surrendered two touchdowns in a span of seven minutes, looking utterly confused. Quite frankly, it was alarming, because on a few plays, there seemed to be players that had no idea what they were doing.
? On Joel Dreesen's 43-yard touchdown, right after the Greene fumble, the Jets rushed five players, including safeties Jim Leonhard and Eric Smith. In most situations -- i.e. man-to-man coverage -- Leonhard or Smith would be responsible for the tight end. Pass rusher Jason Taylor dropped into coverage in what appeared to be a zone blitz. He should've tried to jam Dreesen at the line, but Dreesen had a free release. Taylor let him go, staying in his short zone.
At that point, CB Antonio Cromartie was covering Dreesen and WR Troy Walter, who were running side-by-side in a stacked look. Walter cut inside, and Cromartie followed him, leaving Dreesen wide open. After the game, Leonhard said it was Taylor's job to cover Dreesen. It may have been poor execution, but it also was an ill-conceived play. Why was Taylor, supposedly one of their best pass rushers, dropping into coverage?
? Matt Schaub's 35-yard pass to David Anderson. This was ugly on many levels. The Jets rushed four, overloading the Texans' left side. The entire defense was sucked in by a play fake to the left, and Schaub rolled right. Half the defense stopped, looking confused. It looked like they were playing three different defensive calls. Cromartie, loafing, should've chased Schaub. Instead, CB Darrelle Revis left his man -- Anderson -- and pursued Schaub. That was a no-no. It left Anderson wide open.
? Schaub's 20-yard pass to Andre Johnson. Once again, the Jets bit hard on a play fake and Schaub rolled right. (Gee, you think teams are going to go to school on that tendency?) Johnson, covered by Revis, was on the left of the formation. Revis played an inside technique, but Johnson broke to the outside and Revis couldn't recover in time. Yes, even the great ones make mistakes. In this case, Revis made two big ones in a row.
? Schaub's 4-yard pass to Arian Foster. This came right after the Johnson play, which came after the Anderson play -- arguably the worst three-play defensive sequence of the Ryan era. Once again, the Jets got sucked in on a play fake. OLB Bryan Thomas got caught cheating inside to play the run, allowing Foster to get open in the flat. Three plays later, Foster scored on a 1-yard run to give the Texans a 24-23 lead.
Counting the Dreesen touchdown, the Jets surrendered 116 yards on eight plays, resulting in two touchdowns.
This is not a Super Bowl defense.
If the New York Jets had lost the game to Houston, blowing a 16-point lead, it would've been the second-biggest fourth-quarter collapse for a home game in team history. In 1960, the Jets -- known as the Titans -- blew a 17-point lead to the Boston Patriots.
So it would've been a historic meltdown. After breaking down the tape, here's how the unthinkable almost happened:
THE FUMBLE
Things started getting out of control when Shonn Greene fumbled with 9:23 left in the game, the Jets seemingly in control with a 13-point lead. Greene blamed it on a miscommunication and a bad exchange. In reality, there were a few forces at work here. Yes, it was an awkward exchange between him and Mark Sanchez, but Greene did have possession of the ball. It wasn't like he was bobbling it as he went into the line. He also was undermined by bad blocking on a well-designed run blitz by the Texans.
LG Matt Slauson, who admittedly had a rough day, let DE Mark Anderson beat him cleanly. Anderson knifed into the backfield and made the initial hit on Greene. LB Brian Cushing came free on a stunt and stripped the ball. C Nick Mangold, looking lost, didn't block anyone.
THE DEFENSIVE COLLAPSE
Defensively, the fourth quarter was one of the lowpoints of the Rex Ryan era. They surrendered two touchdowns in a span of seven minutes, looking utterly confused. Quite frankly, it was alarming, because on a few plays, there seemed to be players that had no idea what they were doing.
? On Joel Dreesen's 43-yard touchdown, right after the Greene fumble, the Jets rushed five players, including safeties Jim Leonhard and Eric Smith. In most situations -- i.e. man-to-man coverage -- Leonhard or Smith would be responsible for the tight end. Pass rusher Jason Taylor dropped into coverage in what appeared to be a zone blitz. He should've tried to jam Dreesen at the line, but Dreesen had a free release. Taylor let him go, staying in his short zone.
At that point, CB Antonio Cromartie was covering Dreesen and WR Troy Walter, who were running side-by-side in a stacked look. Walter cut inside, and Cromartie followed him, leaving Dreesen wide open. After the game, Leonhard said it was Taylor's job to cover Dreesen. It may have been poor execution, but it also was an ill-conceived play. Why was Taylor, supposedly one of their best pass rushers, dropping into coverage?
? Matt Schaub's 35-yard pass to David Anderson. This was ugly on many levels. The Jets rushed four, overloading the Texans' left side. The entire defense was sucked in by a play fake to the left, and Schaub rolled right. Half the defense stopped, looking confused. It looked like they were playing three different defensive calls. Cromartie, loafing, should've chased Schaub. Instead, CB Darrelle Revis left his man -- Anderson -- and pursued Schaub. That was a no-no. It left Anderson wide open.
? Schaub's 20-yard pass to Andre Johnson. Once again, the Jets bit hard on a play fake and Schaub rolled right. (Gee, you think teams are going to go to school on that tendency?) Johnson, covered by Revis, was on the left of the formation. Revis played an inside technique, but Johnson broke to the outside and Revis couldn't recover in time. Yes, even the great ones make mistakes. In this case, Revis made two big ones in a row.
? Schaub's 4-yard pass to Arian Foster. This came right after the Johnson play, which came after the Anderson play -- arguably the worst three-play defensive sequence of the Ryan era. Once again, the Jets got sucked in on a play fake. OLB Bryan Thomas got caught cheating inside to play the run, allowing Foster to get open in the flat. Three plays later, Foster scored on a 1-yard run to give the Texans a 24-23 lead.
Counting the Dreesen touchdown, the Jets surrendered 116 yards on eight plays, resulting in two touchdowns.
This is not a Super Bowl defense.
The Bengals need to man up Thursday night..They were badly beaten in the final week of the regular season by the Jets last year and again the following week in the WC round of the playoffs. If they happen to lose a third straight game to NYJ, well...:facepalm:
Well said IE and OS.
This Jets team is not a good 8-2 team period. Defensively and with Sanchez at QB they are average at best right now. Potential is there, yes. But not right now...
That being said, Cincy has a history the past few weeks of playing well early then crapping all over themselves in the 4th qtr. 10 1/2 is alot of pts, but I can't pull the trigger either way right now.
This Jets team is not a good 8-2 team period. Defensively and with Sanchez at QB they are average at best right now. Potential is there, yes. But not right now...
That being said, Cincy has a history the past few weeks of playing well early then crapping all over themselves in the 4th qtr. 10 1/2 is alot of pts, but I can't pull the trigger either way right now.
How low can you go?
How low can you go?
When a team gets as low as the Bengals. they have nothing to lose. They can play carefree and vicious. They can "go for it". Why not? They are gonna lose anyway! The fear of losing is gone. If this were week 15 or 16, the Bengals might be ready to quit and pack it in.
When a team has nothing to lose- THEY ARE DANGEROUS!!!
USE CAUTION WHEN CAPPING THIS ONE......
also....Gotta be a "let down week" for the Jets. Following 3 last minute "horseshoe" wins, they have 2 BIG divisional games next, then the Steelers. Might be looking at this as a week off.
How low can you go?
When a team gets as low as the Bengals. they have nothing to lose. They can play carefree and vicious. They can "go for it". Why not? They are gonna lose anyway! The fear of losing is gone. If this were week 15 or 16, the Bengals might be ready to quit and pack it in.
When a team has nothing to lose- THEY ARE DANGEROUS!!!
USE CAUTION WHEN CAPPING THIS ONE......
also....Gotta be a "let down week" for the Jets. Following 3 last minute "horseshoe" wins, they have 2 BIG divisional games next, then the Steelers. Might be looking at this as a week off.
