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my bad TTM$:shrug:
thought I saw csu -13:confused:
but good luck with nc state:D
hope they whoop ass:D
 

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i'm gonna have to make a trip up north to split your noggin. :eek: :nono: LOL

Since this wouldn't be a good place to discuss which hotel (and yes taoist....TTM knows what i mean....LOL) .....guess i'd be safer just saying best of luck on both your plays AND your exams :D
 

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Hey Mr. Thursday, What do you think about the OVER 55 in NCSt/Clemson game???


Any lean on BYU/Colo St??
 

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I wouldn't touch that total with a 10 foot pole, it could go either way, but I am no pro in totals

In regards to the BYU-CSU game, my numbers have it rght around 13, but if I had a gun to my head I would play CSU

GL to you AMIGO


How is the weather there? My parents have a place in Puerto Vallarta, your lucky to have such beautiful weather all year round

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Puerto Vallarta, mmmmm..... what a place, Good beach and almost all the year is sunny and a little hot, right here I lived near (relatively) of Texas, and the weather is a little crazy, but yes the crazy for me is somedays whe have a hot weather and another days a little of rain and cold, mm.. not a big deal, the winter is note yet here, I think your ass is cold right no, or not??



hoho

WEll by the way of the art of make money or lose all do you have!! I think is a good game to go over, the past years that was the tendency and Clemson is struggling on their D, while NCSt should go out to kill them because they was a little scared the last game (what a faking game joke)!!

later

javier :D
 

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Ninth-ranked North Carolina State seeks its first 9-0 start when it visits Atlantic Coast Conference rival Clemson on Thursday night.
The Wolfpack (8-0, 3-0 ACC) will be making their first appearance of the season on national television and figures to be facing a fired-up crowd in "Death Valley," which is never an easy place for visiting teams.

"They'll be 82,000 (fans) and probably 80,000 of them will be for Clemson," Wolfpack coach Chuck Amato said. "There's gonna be a lot of noise and it'll be our job to take the noise away."

Struggling through an up-and-down campaign, Clemson (4-3, 2-2) would like nothing better than to end North Carolina State's run at history. Four times since 1989 the Tigers have handed the Wolfpack their first loss of the season, most recenly in 1991, when North Carolina State started 6-0.

Lowly Duke almost did the trick last week, giving the Wolfpack all they could handle before falling short, 24-22. North Carolina State nearly squandered a 17-0 lead and did not put away the game until Philip Rivers tossed a 53-yard touchdown pass to Jerricho Cotchery with 2:53 remaining.

The score gave the Wolfpack a 24-15 lead, making a Duke touchdown in the final minute meaningless.

Thursday's contest could be the biggest for North Carolina State since 1979, when a 16-13 victory at Clemson helped it win its last ACC title.

In 1967, current coach Chuck Amato was a senior linebacker on North Carolina State's "White Shoes Defense" squad that started 8-0 before losing to unranked Penn State. The following week, its hopes for an conference title ended in a 14-6 loss at Clemson, and the Wolfpack settled for a second-place tie in the ACC.

Should North Carolina State prevail Thursday, it will stay on course toward a possible showdown with Florida State to decide the ACC title in the regular season finale on November 23.

Clemson held on for a 31-23 victory over Wake Forest last week as Deamon Deacons running back Chris Barclay fumbled out of the end zone with less than two minutes remaining. Barclay coughed up the ball at the one following a 17-yard gain with 1:15 remaining.

Bernard Rambert rushed for a pair of touchdowns in the second half as the Tigers rallied from a 23-14 deficit late in the third quarter. Clemson, which entered the game as the ACC's top-ranked defense, forced five turnovers.

Clemson has won two straight against North Carolina State, including a 45-37 victory last season, and leads the all-time series, 44-25-1
 

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NC State Overall Team Statistics (as of Oct 19, 2002)
All games

TEAM STATISTICS ST OPP
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SCORING....................... 330 157
Points Per Game............. 41.2 19.6
FIRST DOWNS................... 169 148
Rushing..................... 72 70
Passing..................... 85 66
Penalty..................... 12 12
RUSHING YARDAGE............... 1262 1026
Yards gained rushing........ 1414 1421
Yards lost rushing.......... 152 395
Rushing Attempts............ 311 315
Average Per Rush............ 4.1 3.3
Average Per Game............ 157.8 128.2
TDs Rushing................. 23 9
PASSING YARDAGE............... 2103 1458
Att-Comp-Int................ 225-142-6 253-122-9
Average Per Pass............ 9.3 5.8
Average Per Catch........... 14.8 12.0
Average Per Game............ 262.9 182.2
TDs Passing................. 16 10
TOTAL OFFENSE................. 3365 2484
Total Plays................. 536 568
Average Per Play............ 6.3 4.4
Average Per Game............ 420.6 310.5
KICK RETURNS: #-YARDS......... 26-622 40-816
PUNT RETURNS: #-YARDS......... 18-190 16-146
INT RETURNS: #-YARDS.......... 9-62 6-99
KICK RETURN AVERAGE........... 23.9 20.4
PUNT RETURN AVERAGE........... 10.6 9.1
INT RETURN AVERAGE............ 6.9 16.5
FUMBLES-LOST.................. 15-7 22-10
PENALTIES-YARDS............... 55-501 59-494
Average Per Game............ 62.6 61.8
PUNTS-YARDS................... 32-1182 44-1505
Average Per Punt............ 36.9 34.2
Net punt average............ 32.4 29.9
TIME OF POSSESSION/GAME....... 30:15 29:45
3RD-DOWN CONVERSIONS.......... 53/104 37/123
3rd-Down Pct................ 51% 30%
4TH-DOWN CONVERSIONS.......... 2/4 10/20
4th-Down Pct................ 50% 50%
SACKS BY-YARDS................ 34-241 5-25
MISC YARDS.................... 78 0
TOUCHDOWNS SCORED............. 46 20
FIELD GOALS-ATTEMPTS.......... 5-9 7-13
PAT-ATTEMPTS.................. 39-44 16-18
ATTENDANCE.................... 243340 125727
Games/Avg Per Game.......... 5/48668 3/41909

SCORE BY QUARTERS 1st 2nd 3rd 4th OT Total
-------------------- --- --- --- --- --- ---
NC State............ 108 68 96 52 6 - 330
Opponents........... 19 32 44 59 3 - 157
 
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TTM, hopefully this will help you with your weather concerns for the NC State game. It should refresh about once every hour. Good Luck with your play.

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My bad, here is the correct one.
 
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Tha's cool if you need to know what's happing for the NC State FAIR!!!

But the game is in South Carolina.
 

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"Tha's cool if you need to know what's happing for the NC State FAIR!!! But the game is in South Carolina."

HA HA HA HA:lol:
 

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...guess i'd be safer just saying best of luck on both your plays AND your exams :D

...thanks for the well wishes, annie. ;)


TTM $$$, i didn't know where to respond since you have taunted me in numerous threads in this forum. :moon: LOL

...yes, i'm on the tigers at home tonight +3 (SIA) and on the $$-line +110. the thursday night record falls tonight in "death valley." :eek:


...hope the exams went well, anthony. :D
 

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Taunted? You know its all in fun..... but remember the powers of the MOJO

If the line moves up to NC ST -3.5, I will grab clemson for 1 unit. I think NC ST wins it on a late FG.

Also know Chad if Clemson covers, I will be the first one here to congratulate you on your victory my southern friend....;)
 

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- After facing their first real scare from an unlikely source, the 12th-ranked and undefeated North Carolina State Wolfpack get right back to work, as they travel to Death Valley to take on Clemson in a Thursday night tilt in the 22nd-Annual Textile Bowl.

Chuck Amato's Wolfpack are currently enjoying the best start in the school's 111-year history (actually tied with the 1967 squad) and reached the 8-0 mark with a hard-fought 24-22 win over upstart Duke last weekend. NC State (3-0 in the conference) is one of only two undefeated teams left in ACC play, trailing only 11th-ranked Florida State (4-0) in the league standings.

Clemson on the other hand is fighting to get back in the race, as the Tigers are 2-2 in ACC action. Tommy Bowden's team brought an end to a two-game skid with a 31-23 win over Wake Forest last time out.

This series took on the Textile Bowl title in 1981, the year NCSU won the national title. Since then, Clemson boasts a 15-6 advantage. Overall, this series dates back to 1899, with the Tigers leading, 44-25-1. Last season, Clemson posted a 45-37 win in Raleigh. Since 1989, Clemson has enjoyed the spoiler role against NC State, bringing an end to four perfect Wolfpack seasons over that time.

All-American candidate Philip Rivers threw for a season-high 364 yards and two TDs, but it wasn't enough to keep Duke at arm's length, as the Wolfpack had to fight tooth and nail to the finish in a close game against the Blue Devils.

Rivers had a pair of 100-yard receivers in the game, as Jerricho Cotchery and Sterling Hicks made the most of their opportunities. Cotchery, the team's leading receiver to date, finished with six catches, for 174 yards and one TD.

Now that NC State got its scare last week, the team hopes to get back to its dominating ways on Thursday. The offense has been superb for the Wolfpack this season, as Rivers has thrown his name in the Heisman race with his performance thus far. The nation's leading passer in terms of efficiency (170.82 rating), Rivers has completed almost 69 percent of his passes, for 2,015 yards and 16 TDs.

Rivers benefits from a full arsenal in the receiving corps, as three receivers have 25 or more catches. Cotchery leads the way in receptions (29) and receiving yards (650), and has scored four TDs. Hicks is next in line (27 receptions, 380 yards, two TDs), but Bryan Peterson (25 receptions, 448 yards) has been the touchdown maker thus far, with a team-best six scoring catches.

The passing attack has opened up a once-mediocre rushing attack. This year's ground game has erupted thanks to the running exploits of freshman sensation T.A. McLendon. The youngster currently leads the team in rushing (635 yards), and the conference in TDs (12). He is averaging 4.8 yards per carry and ranks fourth in the conference with an average of 81.3 ypg.

The NC State defense has been equally impressive thus far, as the unit leads the ACC in total defense (310.5 ypg) and ranks third in average points allowed (19.6 ppg). The pass defense has been stifling, ranking second in the ACC at just 182.2 ypg. Throwing the ball against the unit is almost impossible, as the unit leads the conference in sacks with 36, while forcing 19 turnovers.

Linebacker Dantonio Burnette is the heart-and-soul of the defense right in the middle. He has been all over the field this season, amassing a team-high 62 tackles. Despite missing a game with a thumb injury, Burnette still leads the conference in TFLs (15) and sacks (eight).

Sophomore safety Andre Maddox is next in line in terms of tackles (60) and is aided in the secondary by All-American candidate Terrence Holt at the other safety position. Holt has 55 tackles on the season, with one sack and two interceptions. Sophomore cornerback Marcus Hudson (22 tackles) has recorded a team-high three INTs.

Burnette is the leader amongst the linebackers, but he is not alone in making plays. Freddie Aughtry-Lindsay, Pat Thomas and Oliver Hoyte provide plenty of big plays as well, with 58, 53 and 40 tackles, respectively. Defensive ends Shawn Price (19 tackles and seven TFLs) and George Anderson (35 tackles and seven TFLs) create the most pressure along the line, as they are tied for second on the team with five sacks each.

The days of Woody Dantzler moving the ball up and down the field for Tommy Bowden are certainly over, as a once-prolific offense has taken a couple of steps back this season. The Tigers rank dead-last in the conference in total offense (355.0 ypg), while ranking sixth in the league in scoring (27.7 ppg).

The ground game is a bit of a concern in Death Valley this season, as the team is generating just 3.6 yards per carry and 131.6 ypg (seventh in the league).

Numerous injuries have plagued the rushing attack this season, as Yusef Kelly has been forced into action with both Bernard Rambert and Chad Jasmin missing significant time with injuries. Kelly has been solid for the most part, netting 4.1 yards per carry, but Clemson has not stuck with the run this season, as Kelly has just 96 carries on the year.

Quarterback Willie Simmons had the unenviable task of replacing an All- American (Dantzler) under center. To his credit, Simmons has been solid, completing nearly 60 percent of his passes (.588), for 1,404 yards and six TDs. However, Simmons has an identical number of interceptions.

Big targets downfield are plentiful in this offense, with Kevin Youngblood (35 receptions, for 285 yards and one TD), J.J. McKelvey (29 receptions, for 409 yards and two TDs) and Derrick Hamilton (29 receptions, for 278 yards and one TD) all are 6-4 or taller.

After underachieving with some serious talent on defense the last few years, it has been refreshing that Clemson has actually overachieved in 2002. The Tigers rank second in the conference in total defense (316.6 ypg). The team has been susceptible to the run (seventh in the league at 152.4 ypg), but is extremely solid against the pass (leads the league at 164.1 ypg). Opponents are averaging just 23.3 points per game against Clemson and keeping this contest in the low 20s could be the key to a Tiger victory.

It all starts in the linebacking corps, with John Leake and Rodney Thomas leading the way. Leake and Thomas are two of the most productive LBs in the nation, and currently rank second and third in the ACC in tackles, with 86 and 84 stops, respectively.

Playmakers up front include tackles Donnell Washington (42 tackles, three TFLs), Bryant McNeal 40 tackles, team-high seven TFLs, team-high five sacks) and Nick Eason (38 tackles, five TFLs, four sacks), while safety Eric Meekins (58 tackles) and cornerbacks Brian Mance (40 tackles, team-high four INTs) and Justin Miller (29 tackles, three INTs) highlight the secondary play.

The Wolfpack had their wake-up call last week and almost blew an opportunity at a showdown with Florida State in the season-finale -- a game that could decide the ACC title. Clemson has looked solid in every game this season, but the three big ones (Georgia, Florida State and Virginia) have all been losses.

This game can only be categorized as a "big one" for both teams. Unfortunately for the Tigers, the trend has been set.
 

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...now how is that mojo going to help your wolfpack when she's all the way up in nc and the game is in death valley? LMAO. :D [/B]

I hope for NC ST's sake she hopped on the bus for the ride down....
:D

Are you at home now? If you are I will call!

Let me know
 

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...you better hope she "hopped on the bus for the ride down" because she might decide to transfer after the whoopin' the tigers lay on your wolfpack tonight. :eek:

...just about to walk out the door. i was home for lunch and have to head back to work...then tax class tonight. :(

...drop me an e-mail and i'll get back to you after classes tonight...around 11 CST.
 
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