Toledo vs. Marshall......opinions welcomed here

hellah10

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Opening Line: Marshall -4.5 (60o/u)

Well everybody knows where I stand with this game.....Dont think they can stop our running game.
 

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I'm with ya on The Rockets, I hate Marshall like you hate BG. I want to see these Marshall jerks get it laid to 'em and I think Toledo will do it this year if they don't have the same refs that did the Miami game:thefinger

Go Rockets:Yep: dance1 :thumb: :clap:
 

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Marshall up to -6 :eek:

Last few games the line has moved against Toledo and the line movement lost

Toledo/NIU: from +4 to PK
Toledo/BG: from -3.5 to -1.5
Toledo/CMU: from -14 to -12

yada yada yada...

I havent played this yet just licking my chops for 7, then hitting that ML

Although Iam gonna kick myself for not middling.

Can't wait to see this Money Line

Last year Marshall couldnt tackle...and they lost the only person on that team that COULD tackle (Max Yates)....how are they gonna stop our running game? or just our offense in whole...
 

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I haven't seen Toledo much this year but I've seen Marshall quite a few times, including Saturday's bludgeoning of a "packed it in" Ball State team. Leftwich could barely move. You would have thought Ball State would of continued to blitz and get to him sooner or later but Marshall reduced their lineman splits to decrease on penetration up the middle, and let Leftwich constantly throw to his check off people and short routes, and those guys made plays (kind of like Oakland). Hill is a capable backup but I have never seen him get pressured. Capable or not, he's no Byron Leftwich.

I think it will come down to this. Toledo has got to tackle. Byron will continue to get used to the pain but his shin is screwed up. They'll have to get to him from the outside, which will put a lot of pressure on Toledo's linebackers. Knowing Toledo as you do Hellah, you should have a pretty good gauge if the Rockets' strenghth on D matches up to what needs to be done to contain Marshall's O. Another tidbit, is I think Watts is hurt more than everyone is saying. He went down in the Miami game, came back and did the same this weekend. One thing for sure, he's a gamer and has equal the heart of Leftwich. He's their definite go to guy on in the red zone. However, if he's banged up, it will affect his perfomance.

Marshall did fairly well against Merriweather who I believe is a much bigger, power sized back than Toledo's backs. I also know that Toledo's quarterback is much better than what Ball State has. Especially, when it comes to making mistakes. That will be very important as I do think Toledo will have to throw the ball to prevent drives from bogging down. Toledo will move the ball, that's a given.

That said, the only intangible is how "up" Toledo will be for Marshall. I know, I know...it's the MAC Championship. However, Toledo has been balls to the wall now for a few weeks and last weeks game meant so much. If they come out flat, Marshall will have 21 on them before they know what hit them.

Of course, that didn't seem to matter last year.

I'm like you, I hope the number goes up to 7. If Toledo comes to play, it should be a tight game throughout, maybe OT.



:drinky:
 

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Both belong to bush league MAC...How can you cap these teams....neither play defense. Rinky Dink schools from a rinky dink conference.

Hellah..the above is for the clown remarks about my alma mater

:D :thefinger
 

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Wilson said:
Hellah..the above is for the clown remarks about my alma mater

:D :thefinger

I care less for your alma mater......if ya want to talk smack go here...

http://pub104.ezboard.com/ftheherdgrapevineherdfootball

Going back to what this thread really matters....I`ll have my write-up on this game. I honestly think last years Herd team was better then this years. And Unicorn your right....Watts' shoulder has bothered him all year and will continue to bother him...but he does fight and battle. Plus another X factor is Marshall did lose Curtis Jones for the season earlier in the season.

So you got a beat up Leftwich, Watts, and Defense. Defense sucks in the first place....just cant see them stopping our running game or screens...
 
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Wilson

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Nope...Can't/won't talk smack with rinky dink fans of rinky dink schools of rinky dink conferences....

C'mon, MAC football is parallel to watching 5A football in Texas...maybe 4A? True fact...those clowns from WVU of the best football conference in the nation have never lost to a school from the rinky dink MAC................ever.

FWIW..Go Mudhens...I mean Rockets...err, is it Slippery Rock Rockets or Toledo Rockets..same level...whatever.
 

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C'mon, MAC football is parallel to watching 5A football in Texas...maybe 4A?

Tell that to Glen Mason, Joe Pa, or even Joe Tiller....

If we are 5A....then whats C-USA?!?!?!
 

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I don't want to ruin your thread...my last smartass remark...




If we are 5A....then whats C-USA?!?!?!


A small step up...only because I don't remember anyone from the MAC beating the likes of Fla St (Louisville)
 

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Definitely Toledo. One of these days a MAC official won't be so intimidated by the Marshall crowd and will call the game correctly. Last Saturday, BSU was ahead early in the game with Marshall facing a 3rd and long when a bogus pass interference completely changed the momentum of the game. I'm assuming this game's at Marshall and am shocked by the line. On a neutral field I have Toledo 3 better than Marshall.
 

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that shit needs to get to 7 dammit

that shit needs to get to 7 dammit

Bowmans
12/02 09:43 ET - Marshall -5.5
12/02 12:19 ET - Marshall -4.0 -115
12/02 19:27 ET - Marshall -4.0

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12/01 20:47 ET - Marshall -5.5 -106
12/02 11:28 ET - Marshall -4.5 -110
12/02 12:41 ET - Marshall -4 -110
12/02 12:48 ET - Marshall -4.5 -109
12/02 19:26 ET - Marshall -4
12/02 20:00 ET - Marshall -4.5

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12/02 11:23 ET - Marshall -5
12/02 11:23 ET - Marshall -4.5
12/02 12:15 ET - Marshall -4
12/02 12:16 ET - Marshall -3.5
12/02 12:31 ET - Marshall -4

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12/02 11:43 ET - Marshall -4.5
12/02 12:18 ET - Marshall -4
12/02 12:41 ET - Marshall -4.5

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12/02 15:35 ET - Marshall -5.0
 

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