trent richardson
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Bridge over troubled water right here in Jax. Cmon down Teddy.
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Guys its the Browns, where careers go end. One will never be good in Cleveland, one of the worst franchises in all of sports. TR has to be loving life now. Oh, neither Jax or Cleveland has a stronghold on the #1 pick, dont count out Pittsburgh.
I have to disagree Nobody would give a first rounder for Richardson.
Name the last RB that was traded for a first round pick.
The Browns were going nowhere with him so the new staff wants to build it their own way so they got the best they could for an injury prone rb who has already had two surgeries on his legs, broken ribs, injured calf, and shoulder issues.
They want a franchise qb and this move will give them power if need be to package picks to move up to get one and if not they still can use the pick on a player that will fit their need better than Trich
I agree with Cleveland's assessment, but I think you are wrong on Richardson. I'd say most if not all would trade a 1st round pick for a proven last year's 3rd overall pick. After all, what percentage of 1st rounders pan out?
The only reason I see what they are doing is they want to trade up for a qb. I thought they were gonna surprise some people this year, not anymore, I think they have the 2-3 pick locked in.
So basically they traded TRich to suck more, because he is a proven first rounder at $1.321 million.
i totally see this from both perspectives...
cleve now has 2 -1's, a 2, 2- 3's and 2 -4's next year...
they already have a solid,young defense....they can bring in quite a few talented guys to fill their qb/rb and wide receiver holes....
it takes maney to sign all that new, high level talent and it`s entirely possible that richardson would have gone free agent before they started turning the corner...
they free`d up some big money and are set to turn the offense around via next season`s draft....
if richardson isn`t chronically injured and a complainer( as some browns boards have indicated),then being with luck and the rest of that offense will help him immediately....
could turn out to be a smart move all the way around....we won`t know about the browns for awhile,but,i`d love to have that kind of flexibility going into the 2014 draft....
cleve now has 2 -1's, a 2, 2- 3's and 2 -4's next year...
they already have a solid,young defense....they can bring in quite a few talented guys to fill their qb/rb and wide receiver holes....
it takes maney to sign all that new, high level talent and it`s entirely possible that richardson would have gone free agent before they started turning the corner...
they free`d up some big money and are set to turn the offense around via next season`s draft....
if richardson isn`t chronically injured and a complainer( as some browns boards have indicated),then being with luck and the rest of that offense will help him immediately....
could turn out to be a smart move all the way around....we won`t know about the browns for awhile,but,i`d love to have that kind of flexibility going into the 2014 draft....
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2 playoff appearances in 20 seasons..
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The Browns
2 playoff appearances in 20 seasons..
in a league that averages 5 new playoff teams a season
But they already had all those picks, it's just the 2nd 1st round pick we are talking about. They basically trade TRich for the RB they are going to draft in the first round. I don't see the money argument either since his salaries will be $1.321 million in 2013, $2.252 million in 2014, and $3.184 million in 2015.
I do see and have read he about potential personality issues and I believe it was the coach who said he was "not a fit for the Browns offense"
You are spot on!! Browns are F'n idiots!!! They are going to get a top QB in the draft anyway since their record will suck and will have a top 5 pick or lower. They traded Trent for a 20th or so pick in 1st round next year. It is total BS that he doesn't "fit" in a offensive system. T-Rich is fast, has power and catches the ball out of the backfield...a true 3 down back. You build an offense around this guy not away from him. I read these articles on ESPN Insider and everywhere else with so called "experts" .......please....half these "experts" no shit about football! Now Cleveland has a further divided locker room, lots of head scratching and no trust in ownership if you are a player. Guys like Thomas who have been there are "tired" of going thru the circus every year of new QB's, coaches, Managers. Now you "F" with their minds even more and a lot of players lost a friend/teammate in Richardson. T-Rich is also a good guy- does his job and doesn't cause problems. Any of you who think Cleveland did okay.......please...it was shit on many levels....and make the Browns management, coaching staff a laughing stock for their fans, players on team and those who are just NFL fans.
I had someone say this to me yesterday and I used the analogy of putting Derek Jeter on the Royals or Pirates for his nearly 20 year career. My point you would never now DJ exisited. But instead he plays his career with an All Star team around him and gets pitches to hit. The Brwons suck, so now TR gets to play an easier division from against the run persepective and teams cant stack the line with Luck playing QB. Homerun for Colts, possibly many years to come with a stud QB and RB to build around.
Actually, the Browns already paid TRich his 13.3 million dollar signing bonus which is spread over the life of the contract. Now that he is no longer on the team, that payment obligation is accelerated to be paid by 2014 not 2015, his only option year. Cleveland will take a salary cap hit of just under 7 Million for him next year. So they are not going to be trading up in the draft. If anything, they will trade away the second or third pick to stockpile picks or, if they were smart, for Kirk Cousins. I would guess that they will stockpile draft picks and you will not see an advancement in the draft due to the salary cap.
Exactly!! :0008 :0008
Colts offense was pass oriented so now they cant stack the box with 8 because Luck will throw and without stacking the box...which opposing Defenses did against CLE....will create more running lanes opportunity for Indy
Interesting point bout salary cap...a topic I personally have never been able to grasp
What has he proved so far? The Browns over valued him last year in the draft when it was well known they wanted Luck or Griffin, they panicked and made a mistake.
Name another running back in the last 10 years that was not only traded but for a #1. You dont give up #1 picks for rb's. You can get rb's later in the draft that can have the same if not better production. It has been proven year after year.
Name the 1st round rb's drafted the last 5 years...Ill bet going back 5 years you might have 5 that are starters now.
If you think the browns were going to be improved then your mind shouldnt have changed with this trade.
Marshawn Lynch brought a 4th rounder
Marshall Faulk brought a 2nd and a 5th.
Two good articles that might shed some light on why the browns did what they did.
http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2...son-seemed-to-be-disengaged-high-maintenance/
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...ick-for-trent-richardson-nobrainer-for-browns
and imo,could be a homerun for the browns...going nowhere this year..and by some reports,not crazy about richardson`s attitude....
they dump some of the salary of a player that the front office and fans weren`t particularly enamored with...have a great salary cap situation shaping up for next year with oodles of draft choices to restock that offense(already a solid defense)......
not many teams win consistently with a great running back and a shitty qb...those days appear to be over(witness minny...and for the record,i doubt that richardson becomes a peterson)...but,teams with a really solid qb and a pedestrian ground game can and do win(we see it year in and year out..indy being the last and most obvious example)....
as i said,i think the browns see this as an opportunity to go all in next year...purge who they want purged and to start over...
i like the move all the way around...the problem is the fact that the "post ravens move/new browns" front office couldn`t get laid in a brothel with a fistfull of $100 bills...they could well f-ck this up also(granted,it`s a new front office so who knows,maybe the curse will be broken),,,,
still,they are set up to succeed if they play their cards right...
i like the move for both teams...
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Again, they only gained about 2.62 million in cap space as the signing bonus that they already paid still goes against the Browns salary cap. They didn't free up any significant room until 2015.
I read those links, good reads, but after reading them, I guess it all boils down to if you think TRich is any good. To me he has proven he can be an adequate starting RB with potential to be really good at a cheap price because most of his money is from his signing bonus. If they think they can get that with a 20th 1st round pick or a 2nd or 3rd round one, well that's their prerogative. I wouldn't have made the deal and after reading the following, I don't see how it doesn't make sense for the Colts.
"The Colts get Richardson at $6,602,671 for practically three full seasons. To put Richardson?s cost to the Colts in perspective, Shonn Green signed a three-year, $10 million deal (including $4.5 million in guarantees) with the Tennessee Titans to serve as Chris Johnson?s backup. Richardson is counting $1,165,901, which is 15 weeks of his 2013 base salary, on Indianapolis? cap this year. He counts on the cap at $2,252,708 and $3,184,062 in 2014 and 2015, respectively. Since Richardson?s guarantees don?t contain offsets, the Colts can?t recoup any of the salary owed to him from his next contract if they release him. The Colts have $2.07 million of cap room this year after the trade."
"The Colts get Richardson at $6,602,671 for practically three full seasons. To put Richardson?s cost to the Colts in perspective, Shonn Green signed a three-year, $10 million deal (including $4.5 million in guarantees) with the Tennessee Titans to serve as Chris Johnson?s backup. Richardson is counting $1,165,901, which is 15 weeks of his 2013 base salary, on Indianapolis? cap this year. He counts on the cap at $2,252,708 and $3,184,062 in 2014 and 2015, respectively. Since Richardson?s guarantees don?t contain offsets, the Colts can?t recoup any of the salary owed to him from his next contract if they release him. The Colts have $2.07 million of cap room this year after the trade."
yes,they`re carrying some dead money.....but they`re still in a decent cap situation with all those picks looming in 2014 .....and it`s obvious that the front office had issues with richardson....
they have a new coach and gm who must have eyeballed the situation extensively....carrying some dead money was apparently worth it to them to jettison this guy....
we`ll know sooner rather than later that this move was solid for for the colts...only way it doesn`t improve their offense is if richardson becomes chronically injured...the browns draft next year will be an indicator as to whether they can start to turn the corner...
should be interesting...
anybody know if richardson is playing this week for the colts?
ok...got it...they`re showing this game locally here in b`more at 4 pm...anxious to see richardson as a colt...
http://fansided.com/2013/09/19/indi...son-will-play-san-francisco-49ers-week-three/
Yes but the browns was at BAMA T A&M game scouting Manzel,that is a wasted pick, he will be another Flutie in my opinion
Also he seems to be nice guy a girl in my town was Bama fan he came down last year took her to her prom,she had cancer and was her wish
Also he seems to be nice guy a girl in my town was Bama fan he came down last year took her to her prom,she had cancer and was her wish
