Trump in Chicago last night
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Yep. The Trumpster has been stirring the race and religion pot for all he's worth, and it's boiling over. and the Trumpster is going to get scalded.
He's the 21st Century reincarnation of George Wallace. :mj07:
You are hands down the most bigoted racist on this site. If someone does not believe like you you could care less about their freedom of speech rights.
Trump has a right to give the speech but the George Soros Move On protesters along w liberal TV left wingers blamed Trump for trying to speak in a diverse setting. Guess what? He and his supporters have a right to speak.
Fuck you and everything you stand for. I know many WW 2 vets and I assure you they fought for something different than what you believe in.
I was not going to vote for Trump but now I am.
Trump in 2016.
Hillary in jail in 2016.
Black lives matters but Al Jolson faces do not.
You may be the dumbest person on the face of the earth.
He has the exact same level of right to be heard as the protestors you buffoon. If he wants to pay for a private room and sell tickets to only his little retarded followers such as yourself, he can have at it.
He has no right to public audience. It's freedom of speech not freedom of having to listen.
You then go on to speak for WW2 veterans and their mindset, as if you are an authority on anything. Take a look at some of the videos out of Chicago and you'll see plenty of ex- military protesting the combover racist.
The dumbest part of your nonsensical blather was actually inferring Trump wants to speak to a diverse crowd. Just as long as that diversity doesn't include Muslims, Hispanics, immigrants, blacks, or dissenters. My God you're a stupid, stupid, stupid man. I'm amazed how you easily you misrepresent yourself. All you can do is cry now though, Drumpf won't be giving any speeches in Chicago and the Constitution just smiled a little
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As usual lowell has a reading comprehension problem.
Did I say somewhere that Trump has no right to speak? Nope.
What I did say is that Trump is a race-baiting reincarnation of George Wallace.
George Soros? Who's he? Is he running for something? I've never heard a word he has said.
But I have heard Trump and his race baiting, religious intolerance. He's a piece of shit.
You know some WWII vets? Whoopee. Is there anyone who doesn't? My father and three uncles were WWII vets, and they wouldn't have wiped their asses with Donald Trump. They were American patriots. Trump is a self aggrandizing promoter of Donald Trump and hatred.
Now crawl back under your rock.
The protestors are trying to shut down his right to free speech. They want to disrupt with organization. Not just protest. So that is alright by you? Yea Trump needs to cool the rhetoric. Getting way out of hand.
You are as dumb as trump. He does not who David Duke is and you do not know who Soros is.
Two peas in a pod you and Trump. Ask Bernie who he is. He can tell you.
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MoveOn isn't a Nazi organization. Nazis were right wing. If you are going to insult them call them Marxist instead.
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Yes I'm fine with it. The first amendment is written to protect citizens from the government and the press from government. The government cannot interfere with lawful and peaceful assembly or protests. Trump has no more right to be heard than the protestors. As a matter of fact, the only cost amendment rights that were violated were those the police pepper sprayed or arrested for protesting. Trump made the decision not to speak, nobody else. Police never said it was unsafefor him to speak. He was not told to call off the side show.
Congress has spent hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars attacking only one candidate and the GOP continues to funnel money into the effort to lopside an election against Hillary Clinton. That's a clear misappropriation of funds, but you're okay with that?
Trump keeps saying he's going to rid the world of ISIS, yet everything he wants to do is an emulation of their organization. Radical Islam wants to rid it's borders of Christians, he wants to rid his of Muslims. He calls for violence against those that disagree with his views, just like ISIS.
He has no plan and no policy, only to scream false promises of a non- existent utopia, sound familiar?
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Wrong. Hitler was on the right. I've read quite a bit. There were elements in the party that leaned left and supported socialist revolution, Strasser brothers, Rohm and parts of the SA. But they were purged in The Night Of The Long Knives and from that point on it was 100% Right wing. Hitler, Goering and Himmler were never ever leftist. Jesus pay attention when you read stuff.
David Duke is a piece of shit, ex Grand Wizard of the KKK, an organization which promotes hatred against anyone who is non Aryan, and which has lynched and otherwise killed innocent people because of their race.
George Soros is a private citizen who has neither committed nor condoned acts of violence nor any other crime. So why do you compare Duke to Soros?
Maybe it's because you're a racist who secretly admires folks like David Duke and Don Black.
Or maybe it's because you don't like what Soros does with his own money. You're free to do the same, contribute a few hundred million to Trump, Cruz, Rubio, whoever.
And you can do that just as soon as you get as smart as Soros. Which will be......never.
David Duke is a piece of shit, ex Grand Wizard of the KKK, an organization which promotes hatred against anyone who is non Aryan, and which has lynched and otherwise killed innocent people because of their race.
George Soros is a private citizen who has neither committed nor condoned acts of violence nor any other crime. So why do you compare Duke to Soros?
Maybe it's because you're a racist who secretly admires folks like David Duke and Don Black.
Or maybe it's because you don't like what Soros does with his own money. You're free to do the same, contribute a few hundred million to Trump, Cruz, Rubio, whoever.
And you can do that just as soon as you get as smart as Soros. Which will be......never.
Your comprehension is fading with old age Duff. I did not compare the two. I simply stated the obvious related to you knowing who Soros is. Soros does condone violence or he would not be supporting groups who are connected to race baiting that create violence within public demonstrations. I do not admire David Duke.
That is just stupid.
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Perhaps there really is more to the comparison of Hitler to Trump than what is assumed.
"We are socialists ...." Debunked
"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler, Quoted in John Toland, "Adolf Hitler", p224.
Put into Google Hitler and socialist, and you're bound to come up with various websites with the above quote. Because of the way in which it get's used, i regard it as hitler's "There is no such thing as society" moment. What i mean is, A quote which is Always taken out of context to further a false point.
So what is the context you may ask? I provide the answer below.
It was to only try and wean some of the working class support over to him that he made references like he did to socialism. And that never really worked, the Nazis always had the least support from the working class. In that particular section of the book Toland is discussing Hitler's use of propaganda and his oratory style. He starts out by stating that the Berlin Nazi party (or Gau) was in disarray at this time and Goebbels was sent to straighten out the situation. He found that "The thousand party members under his jurisdiction were opposed on the streets by overwhelming numbers of Communists and Social Democrats." The course of action they decided on was to do everything they could to pick fights and to basically 'Red Bait' the Leftists in order to enflame violence, and to use propaganda to confuse the masses to try and weaken the real Left. "Goebbles decided it was now time to broaden the base of membership and to do that he had to attract the attention of the jaded public, "Berlin needs its sensations as a fish needs water", he (Goebbels) wrote" (ibid p223) So the best way they decided to inflame the situation was for violent action "SA troops deliberately sought out physical combat with the Reds," (Ibid p224) and for Hitler to give a speech on May Day. And not only that, but to give speeches in meeting halls that were taken over from the Communists. ""Making noise" he (Hitler) once said, "is an effective means of opposition"" (Ibid p224) And that is the true light that the quote must be taken as, making noise to provoke. False propaganda meant to inflame. Fights were started and the Newspapers proclaimed that there was this little known party, as it was not very large in Berlin at the time, fighting the Communists and Socialists. "The publicity was meant to be derogatory but in the next few days 2600 applications for membership were received," (Ibid p224) So this all served their purpose. And Toland, immediately after using the quote, and in the very next sentence of the same paragraph states, "This was followed by a long dissertation on Lebensraum, in Hitler's continuing effort to pound this concept into the membership. Sixty-two million Germans he said, were crowded into an area only 450,000 kilometers square. "This is a ridiculous figure when one considers the size of other nations in the world today." There were two solutions: either decrease he population by "chasing our best human material out of Germany" or "bring the soil into consonance with the population, even if it must be done by war. This is the natural way which Providence has prescribed." (Ibid p225)
Notice a couple of things here, first that he only uses one line calling himself a socialist and this is meant to inflame the Socialists and the rest of the Left, just get publicity and to confuse those that may not know the reality behind their party. The latter of which Hitler makes clear in his detailed policy of Lebensraum which has nothing to do with socialism. So not only does he merely state without any justification that he is a socialist, he makes it clear that his policy is not a socialist one but a racial and colonial one. So Hitler does not at all expound on the socialist statement, but he goes into detail on Lebensraum, which makes it clear that there is no real socialism behind his 'socialist' statement but there is to his expansionary and racist policies. "Again and again he hammered at race and the fact that Germany's future lay in the conquest of eastern territories. Over and over he preached his pseudo-Darwinist sermon of nature's way: conquest of the weak by the strong." (Ibid p226) As an honest reading of Toland would indicate; something that those that use this quote like Ray has obviously not done, but had probably only acquired it from a cheap Web search, probably from a Heritage institute or Glen Beck site; The mentioning of 'Socialist' was only propaganda. It is part of a larger section by Toland treating that subject and the attempt by the Nazi to develop support while weakening the other parties. Except for the racial policy and expansion, Hitler, when the party was first building its support, would say anything, no matter how disingenuous, to try and be attractive to every segment of the political society.
"The Nazis continued to be a catch-all party of social protest, with particularly strong support from the middle classes, and the relatively weak support from in the traditional industrial working class" Richard J Evans, "The Coming of the Third Reich" p295
Peace!
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