Trumpcare....

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WASHINGTON ― If this was The Art of the Deal in action, then Donald Trump needs to write a new book.

In his first, and therefore crucial, foray into presidential negotiating, the prince of New York real estate failed miserably because he was dealing with a world and a way of doing things he never faced when he was buying and building.

In Washington, legislating, and leading the country as president, require more than simply bullying people or buying them off with borrowed cash. As a result, Trump had to postpone a vote Friday on the GOP health care plan he tried to bully through Congress, after it became clear that the legislation could not secure enough votes.

As a harbinger of the future, the situation could not have been more devastating.

?At the end of the day, this isn?t a dictatorship,? Trump?s press secretary, Sean Spicer, said as the bill was sliding to oblivion. He sounded resigned to the reality of legislating in a democracy. Whether his boss agrees ? and learns ? is the key question.

Among other things, President Trump has to learn that in Washington, you can?t simply build your own design. You have to build what other people want. Your job is to find consensus and entice others ? many others ― into thinking that your vision is theirs. Projects get ?built? here more with rewards than threats. It is not a brutal game of ?the last man standing.? It?s ?we?re all in this together,? even when the ?we? is just your own party.

This first crash-and-burn effort at legislating is not a good sign. Presidencies often are defined, for better or worse, by their first big legislative move. Like first impressions in everyday life, they count bigly, and they establish political dynamics that can last.

And with the rise and aging of the baby boomers, those defining initial moves often have tended in recent decades to focus on health care and pensions. The inter-generational battle is inferred, but explosive.
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Trump thought the shit was going to be easy speazy.


So now he says, he should have tackled Tax Cuts first.

watch that also go down the tubes of disapproval.

what happened to the cutting thru the partisan shit and doing deals.

after all the neo cons didnt treat Obama his way for 8 yrs. They gave him everything he wanted.

Ryan and Trump make a good pair .
 

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For 7 years those morons have been trying to repeal ACA. Once they get control, what do they do? Crawl into a corner. It's easy to criticize and bitch, it's tough to actually do something. Republicans are showing what a joke they are.
 

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For 7 years those morons have been trying to repeal ACA. Once they get control, what do they do? Crawl into a corner. It's easy to criticize and bitch, it's tough to actually do something. Republicans are showing what a joke they are.

It was the democrats that caused them to pull the bill with no support by the nazi left. I say fuck em and ram it through, nuclear option but thats me. Stop playing nice with democrats they don't play nice when they have the power. Republicans playing nice, I am starting to resent the establishment GOP, bunch of pussies.

easiest way to fix the health care system is to require Congress to use the same healthcare that us common folk use, it would be fixed within a day, probably within hours. Those bastards have their own healthcare system separate from the peons like us.
 

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It was the democrats that caused them to pull the bill with no support by the nazi left. I say fuck em and ram it through, nuclear option but thats me. Stop playing nice with democrats they don't play nice when they have the power. Republicans playing nice, I am starting to resent the establishment GOP, bunch of pussies.

easiest way to fix the health care system is to require Congress to use the same healthcare that us common folk use, it would be fixed within a day, probably within hours. Those bastards have their own healthcare system separate from the peons like us.

That is straight bullshit. They do not need the dems to pass anything.

It was republicans that would not sign the bill.

Alternative facts are lies.
 

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That is straight bullshit. They do not need the dems to pass anything.

It was republicans that would not sign the bill.

Alternative facts are lies.

This is true, but the last part of hedgie's post actually makes some sense. Go figure!

"easiest way to fix the health care system is to require Congress to use the same healthcare that us common folk use, it would be fixed within a day, probably within hours. Those bastards have their own healthcare system separate from the peons like us."

Peace! :)
 

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"easiest way to fix the health care system is to require Congress to use the same healthcare that us common folk use, it would be fixed within a day, probably within hours. Those bastards have their own healthcare system separate from the peons like us."

LOL!

They're not interested in "fixing" anything! As far as they're concerned, nothing needs "fixing". How could it be? Nothing needs repaired. They're interested in garnering and protecting the best of everything for themselves, family members and friends and making sure no one else has access to anything they have (A three year old knows this crap!).
They also have a plan to ensure the "have nots" remain wanting and powerless and they have the help of law enforcement (local, state and federal) plus the courts to do their bidding.
The real "powers that be" are both anonymous and invisible. They are highly intelligent, eloquent in speech, well dressed, well fed, and socially gracious. They have no need of conversation. They simply nod and slowly smile to show their approval.
This is not right versus wrong. This is good versus evil. And so it goes with the Rulers of Darkness. This is a well-polished plan of deception, intimidation and oppression the likes of which most of us could never even possibiy imagine. Some might say, It is evil at a very high degree.

Their never-ending project is expanding their sphere of influence and control. Imo, this is why Madjacks post is troubling.

Republicans vs. Democrats? LOL X 1,000,000

"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you," ~ 2 Corinthians 6:17

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It was the democrats that caused them to pull the bill with no support by the nazi left. I say fuck em and ram it through, nuclear option but thats me. Stop playing nice with democrats they don't play nice when they have the power. Republicans playing nice, I am starting to resent the establishment GOP, bunch of pussies.

easiest way to fix the health care system is to require Congress to use the same healthcare that us common folk use, it would be fixed within a day, probably within hours. Those bastards have their own healthcare system separate from the peons like us.

They didn't need the Democrats!!! You had it right when you called the GOP a bunch of pussies. When will you and your right wing buddies realize the GOP is all talk and no action?
 

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That is straight bullshit. They do not need the dems to pass anything.

It was republicans that would not sign the bill.

Alternative facts are lies.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...bill-failure-says-obamacare-is-imploding.html

President Trump said Friday the White House ?learned a lot about loyalty and the vote-getting process? following the dramatic failure of a Republican-backed bill that would have made good on a campaign promise to repeal and replace ObamaCare.


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Trump said House Republicans were 10 to 15 votes shy of getting the bill passed and blamed the defeat on Democrats. House Speaker Paul Ryan pulled the bill minutes before a vote was to take place as it became apparent there was not enough support for passage. Democrats were united against it, and a conservative bloc of Republicans were unmoved by 11th-hour negotiations.

?We had no Democratic support,? Trump said from the Oval Office. ?They weren?t going to give us a single vote.?

The president added that the ?best thing we can do, politically speaking, is let ObamaCare explode. It?s exploding right now? Almost all states have big problems.?

Trump claimed he never said he would ?repeal and replace [ObamaCare] within 64 days,? though he repeatedly promised during the campaign he?d do it on Day One.

Ryan, R-Wis., withdrew the legislation after Trump called and asked him to halt debate without a vote.

?We came really close today but we came up short,? Ryan said. He added that Friday?s developments were ?not the end of the story? though he immediately pivoted to other items on the GOP agenda, including tax reform.

?We have big, ambitious plans to improve people?s lives,? he said.

Ryan made the walk to the White House shortly after noon to tell the president he lacked the votes to push the bill through. Friday marks the seventh anniversary of the signing of the Affordable Care Act by former President Barack Obama.

The GOP bill would have replaced ObamaCare, which mandated that almost every American have health insurance.

?This was a rejection of the repeal of the Affordable Care Act,? Democratic National Committee chair Tom Perez said in a written statement. ?In the words of my friend Joe Biden: This is a BFD.?

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., called the failed GOP health care bill a ?victory for the American people.?

Republicans have spent seven years campaigning against Obama's signature health care law, and cast dozens of votes to repeal it in full or in part. But when they finally got the chance to pass a repeal bill that actually had a chance to get signed, they couldn't pull it off.

What happens next is unclear, but the path ahead on other priorities, such as overhauling the tax code, could grow more daunting.

The development came on the afternoon of a day when the bill, which had been delayed a day earlier, was supposed to come to a vote, come what may. President Trump's top aides had told Ryan to call a vote - and possibly call the bluff of balky Republicans in the House Freedom Caucus.

But instead of picking up support as Friday wore on, the bill went the other direction, with some key lawmakers coming out in opposition.

Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen, R-N.J., chairman of the powerful Appropriations Committee, said the bill would raise costs unacceptably on his constituents. Rep. Barbara Comstock of Virginia, a key moderate Republican, and GOP Rep. David Joyce of Ohio also announced "no" votes.

The defections raised the possibility that the bill would not only lose on the floor, but lose big.

In the face of that evidence, and despite insistences from White House officials and Ryan that Friday was the day to vote, leadership pulled back from the brink.

The GOP bill would have eliminated the Obama statute's unpopular fines on people who do not obtain coverage and would also have removed the often-generous subsidies for those who purchase insurance.

Republican tax credits would have been based on age, not income like Obama's, and the tax boosts Obama imposed on higher-earning people and health care companies would have been repealed. The bill would have ended Obama's Medicaid expansion and trimmed future federal financing for the federal-state program, letting states impose work requirements on some of the 70 million beneficiaries.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said the Republican bill would have resulted in 24 million additional uninsured people in a decade and lead to higher out-of-pocket medical costs for many lower-income and people just shy of age 65 when they would become eligible for Medicare. The bill would have blocked federal payments for a year to Planned Parenthood.

Democrats were uniformly opposed. "This bill is pure greed, and real people will suffer and die from it," said Rep. Pramila Jayapal of Washington state.

Fox News' Chad Pergram, John Roberts, Jennifer Bowman and The Associated Press contributed to this report.



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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...bill-failure-says-obamacare-is-imploding.html

President Trump said Friday the White House ?learned a lot about loyalty and the vote-getting process? following the dramatic failure of a Republican-backed bill that would have made good on a campaign promise to repeal and replace ObamaCare.


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Trump said House Republicans were 10 to 15 votes shy of getting the bill passed and blamed the defeat on Democrats. House Speaker Paul Ryan pulled the bill minutes before a vote was to take place as it became apparent there was not enough support for passage. Democrats were united against it, and a conservative bloc of Republicans were unmoved by 11th-hour negotiations.

?We had no Democratic support,? Trump said from the Oval Office. ?They weren?t going to give us a single vote.?

The president added that the ?best thing we can do, politically speaking, is let ObamaCare explode. It?s exploding right now? Almost all states have big problems.?

Trump claimed he never said he would ?repeal and replace [ObamaCare] within 64 days,? though he repeatedly promised during the campaign he?d do it on Day One.

Ryan, R-Wis., withdrew the legislation after Trump called and asked him to halt debate without a vote.

?We came really close today but we came up short,? Ryan said. He added that Friday?s developments were ?not the end of the story? though he immediately pivoted to other items on the GOP agenda, including tax reform.

?We have big, ambitious plans to improve people?s lives,? he said.

Ryan made the walk to the White House shortly after noon to tell the president he lacked the votes to push the bill through. Friday marks the seventh anniversary of the signing of the Affordable Care Act by former President Barack Obama.

The GOP bill would have replaced ObamaCare, which mandated that almost every American have health insurance.

?This was a rejection of the repeal of the Affordable Care Act,? Democratic National Committee chair Tom Perez said in a written statement. ?In the words of my friend Joe Biden: This is a BFD.?

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., called the failed GOP health care bill a ?victory for the American people.?

Republicans have spent seven years campaigning against Obama's signature health care law, and cast dozens of votes to repeal it in full or in part. But when they finally got the chance to pass a repeal bill that actually had a chance to get signed, they couldn't pull it off.

What happens next is unclear, but the path ahead on other priorities, such as overhauling the tax code, could grow more daunting.

The development came on the afternoon of a day when the bill, which had been delayed a day earlier, was supposed to come to a vote, come what may. President Trump's top aides had told Ryan to call a vote - and possibly call the bluff of balky Republicans in the House Freedom Caucus.

But instead of picking up support as Friday wore on, the bill went the other direction, with some key lawmakers coming out in opposition.

Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen, R-N.J., chairman of the powerful Appropriations Committee, said the bill would raise costs unacceptably on his constituents. Rep. Barbara Comstock of Virginia, a key moderate Republican, and GOP Rep. David Joyce of Ohio also announced "no" votes.

The defections raised the possibility that the bill would not only lose on the floor, but lose big.

In the face of that evidence, and despite insistences from White House officials and Ryan that Friday was the day to vote, leadership pulled back from the brink.

The GOP bill would have eliminated the Obama statute's unpopular fines on people who do not obtain coverage and would also have removed the often-generous subsidies for those who purchase insurance.

Republican tax credits would have been based on age, not income like Obama's, and the tax boosts Obama imposed on higher-earning people and health care companies would have been repealed. The bill would have ended Obama's Medicaid expansion and trimmed future federal financing for the federal-state program, letting states impose work requirements on some of the 70 million beneficiaries.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said the Republican bill would have resulted in 24 million additional uninsured people in a decade and lead to higher out-of-pocket medical costs for many lower-income and people just shy of age 65 when they would become eligible for Medicare. The bill would have blocked federal payments for a year to Planned Parenthood.

Democrats were uniformly opposed. "This bill is pure greed, and real people will suffer and die from it," said Rep. Pramila Jayapal of Washington state.

Fox News' Chad Pergram, John Roberts, Jennifer Bowman and The Associated Press contributed to this report.



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Never ever take any responsibility.

Obama was able to get his health care passed without one vote from the other side, how come Trump can't get it done?
 
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