Tuesday NBA - Mission to fade the HEAT
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I also think Jack fits TOR better at the PG spot. Calderon doesn't play any fucking defense.
I'd be suprised if the line was that low. I'd expect something in the 6.5-7 range.
I'd be suprised if the line was that low. I'd expect something in the 6.5-7 range.
Toronto has won 7 of the last 8 vs Miami.
The last 3 in Miami too.
Miami has never been higher than -5 in the last 10 games in Miami.
Last 4 :
11/20/09 TOR 120 - MIA 113 TOR -3
03/06/09 TOR 102 - MIA 108 MIA -1.0
11/19/08 MIA 95 - TOR 101 TOR 2.5
11/16/08 TOR 107 - MIA 96 TOR -3
With as bad as Miami has been last 8 (0-8 ATS)
Hell this game might even be anywhere from -3 to -1 based on history.
The last 3 in Miami too.
Miami has never been higher than -5 in the last 10 games in Miami.
Last 4 :
11/20/09 TOR 120 - MIA 113 TOR -3
03/06/09 TOR 102 - MIA 108 MIA -1.0
11/19/08 MIA 95 - TOR 101 TOR 2.5
11/16/08 TOR 107 - MIA 96 TOR -3
With as bad as Miami has been last 8 (0-8 ATS)
Hell this game might even be anywhere from -3 to -1 based on history.
Wade's Silence
Wade's Silence
A day after the Heat absorbed its worst beating of the season, guard Dwyane Wade still wasn't on speaking terms with his teammates.
``Nah,'' Wade said Monday when asked if he had any words at practice after he took a listen-only stance in the locker room following Sunday's 28-point home loss to Memphis. ``It was all Coach [Erik Spoelstra] speaking. I let Coach come in and do his job.''
Wade isn't ignoring his teammates. He just doesn't feel the need to stand before them and deliver a fiery speech for motivation. He has done it before. It's all about action now.
An hour after the frustration, embarrassment and sting of the Heat's worst loss of the season had set in Sunday, Wade told reporters that everyone on the roster should go home, spend time looking in the mirror and take a deep inventory of themselves.
When he got to practice Monday, the reflection of his team still didn't quite come into focus.
PERFORMANCE FIRST
Wade no longer considers the practice courts at AmericanAirlines Arena as any sort of proving ground. Those workouts can be deceiving.
As far as Wade is concerned, there is only one way for the Heat to show that Sunday's meltdown against Memphis was an aberration. And that's by bouncing back like Sunday's game never happened when Miami (11-11) plays Tuesday night.
The Toronto Raptors (11-15) visit AmericanAirlines Arena as the third opponent in a span of six consecutive home games for Miami. But instead of taking advantage of this stretch, the Heat has had more problems at home recently than Tiger Woods. So anything accomplished in Monday's lengthy film review and on-court work means little to Wade until it all resonates when the effort counts.
``You won't be able to tell until the game,'' Wade said when asked if the team showed any sign of resilience at Monday's practice. ``We practice great as of late, and played two dud games. It's just going to take getting into the game and see. I know how this team can be when we're all playing together. But I also know how bad we can be when we don't.''
The problem is, coach Erik Spoelstra doesn't know which one of those Heat teams he will see any given night.
The same group that was one of the NBA's stingiest defensive teams through a 7-2 start has been trampled upon the past three weeks. The Heat has lost nine of its past 13 games and has allowed 100 or more points in six consecutive games, its longest such streak since the 2004-05 season.
Whereas that stretch five years ago came during the high-scoring prosperity of a 14-game win streak, the Heat's current stretch is all about porous defensive performances. To get things turned around, Spoelstra tossed another set of numbers at his team during Monday's meetings.
CAMP LESSONS
``It's really all about 76 days,'' Spoelstra said of the team's first gathering to start training camp. ``It was 76 days ago when we met downstairs about our standards for the team and what we were going to emphasize. We need to get back to the purity of that, our commitment.''
Miami ended one such commitment Monday when it released seldom-used forward Shavlik Randolph to create a roster spot that could be used to address other needs.
But Spoelstra also insisted that team can jump-start its season from within despite a void of athleticism, Daequan Cook's ongoing shooting slump, inconsistent play from second-year point guard Mario Chalmers and a lack of steady production at small forward. There have been signs of progress. But Wade's heavier burden has caused him to fall off the pace of last season's production that made him an MVP candidate.
``We have enough, we've done enough, we've proven enough to each other,'' Spoelstra said of his confidence in the roster while not ruling out changes to the starting lineup. ``We have guys who can step up, who have stepped up.''
Starting center Jermaine O'Neal, one of the veterans who spoke up in the team meeting that followed Sunday's loss, said it's far too early to panic. But he also added that it's way too soon for the team to have had so many soul-searching conversations.
``Every team goes through challenges, but we didn't think it was going to be quite this early,'' O'Neal said. ``Guys are really talking about it. But we should be having multiple conversations like this so early. It's just going to take work. Losing can be contagious. You don't want to compromise your season by getting used to losing.''
Wade's Silence
A day after the Heat absorbed its worst beating of the season, guard Dwyane Wade still wasn't on speaking terms with his teammates.
``Nah,'' Wade said Monday when asked if he had any words at practice after he took a listen-only stance in the locker room following Sunday's 28-point home loss to Memphis. ``It was all Coach [Erik Spoelstra] speaking. I let Coach come in and do his job.''
Wade isn't ignoring his teammates. He just doesn't feel the need to stand before them and deliver a fiery speech for motivation. He has done it before. It's all about action now.
An hour after the frustration, embarrassment and sting of the Heat's worst loss of the season had set in Sunday, Wade told reporters that everyone on the roster should go home, spend time looking in the mirror and take a deep inventory of themselves.
When he got to practice Monday, the reflection of his team still didn't quite come into focus.
PERFORMANCE FIRST
Wade no longer considers the practice courts at AmericanAirlines Arena as any sort of proving ground. Those workouts can be deceiving.
As far as Wade is concerned, there is only one way for the Heat to show that Sunday's meltdown against Memphis was an aberration. And that's by bouncing back like Sunday's game never happened when Miami (11-11) plays Tuesday night.
The Toronto Raptors (11-15) visit AmericanAirlines Arena as the third opponent in a span of six consecutive home games for Miami. But instead of taking advantage of this stretch, the Heat has had more problems at home recently than Tiger Woods. So anything accomplished in Monday's lengthy film review and on-court work means little to Wade until it all resonates when the effort counts.
``You won't be able to tell until the game,'' Wade said when asked if the team showed any sign of resilience at Monday's practice. ``We practice great as of late, and played two dud games. It's just going to take getting into the game and see. I know how this team can be when we're all playing together. But I also know how bad we can be when we don't.''
The problem is, coach Erik Spoelstra doesn't know which one of those Heat teams he will see any given night.
The same group that was one of the NBA's stingiest defensive teams through a 7-2 start has been trampled upon the past three weeks. The Heat has lost nine of its past 13 games and has allowed 100 or more points in six consecutive games, its longest such streak since the 2004-05 season.
Whereas that stretch five years ago came during the high-scoring prosperity of a 14-game win streak, the Heat's current stretch is all about porous defensive performances. To get things turned around, Spoelstra tossed another set of numbers at his team during Monday's meetings.
CAMP LESSONS
``It's really all about 76 days,'' Spoelstra said of the team's first gathering to start training camp. ``It was 76 days ago when we met downstairs about our standards for the team and what we were going to emphasize. We need to get back to the purity of that, our commitment.''
Miami ended one such commitment Monday when it released seldom-used forward Shavlik Randolph to create a roster spot that could be used to address other needs.
But Spoelstra also insisted that team can jump-start its season from within despite a void of athleticism, Daequan Cook's ongoing shooting slump, inconsistent play from second-year point guard Mario Chalmers and a lack of steady production at small forward. There have been signs of progress. But Wade's heavier burden has caused him to fall off the pace of last season's production that made him an MVP candidate.
``We have enough, we've done enough, we've proven enough to each other,'' Spoelstra said of his confidence in the roster while not ruling out changes to the starting lineup. ``We have guys who can step up, who have stepped up.''
Starting center Jermaine O'Neal, one of the veterans who spoke up in the team meeting that followed Sunday's loss, said it's far too early to panic. But he also added that it's way too soon for the team to have had so many soul-searching conversations.
``Every team goes through challenges, but we didn't think it was going to be quite this early,'' O'Neal said. ``Guys are really talking about it. But we should be having multiple conversations like this so early. It's just going to take work. Losing can be contagious. You don't want to compromise your season by getting used to losing.''
Heat forward Quentin Richardson (hamstring) is questionable; Raptors point guard Jose Calderon (hip) is out.
You got your wish -6. This is an overinflated line Miami is never going to cover this.
Line now -7. Wonder why all the love for Miami after 0-8 ATS streak and 2-6 SU last 8. Toronto's history vs Miami. I am assuming the books are expecting WADE to go for 50 and break out tonight. I dont see it.
Interesting trend : Raptors are 8-0 SU when the hold opponents to under 100.
While that looks unlikely based on history and the lack of defense by the Raptors. The Heat has looked like shit at home it has been almost 3 weeks since they went over 100 and that was 102 on 11/22. Strange last year home court was huge this year they seemed to have excelled on the road.
Interesting trend : Raptors are 8-0 SU when the hold opponents to under 100.
While that looks unlikely based on history and the lack of defense by the Raptors. The Heat has looked like shit at home it has been almost 3 weeks since they went over 100 and that was 102 on 11/22. Strange last year home court was huge this year they seemed to have excelled on the road.
You are correct. BUT so did the Memphis line fw days ago. This team is bad no very bad. Until they show me something I need to continue fading them. BOL.
Adding Teaser for fun
Adding Teaser for fun
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Toronto Raptors
Spread +14 for Game
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Los Angeles Lakers
Spread -3 for Game
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San Antonio Spurs
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Adding Teaser for fun
election #1
12/15/2009 7:35 PM - (EST)
Basketball NBA Game
Wager Type:Teaser Bask7-Foot10 Combo
Toronto Raptors
Spread +14 for Game
Selection #2
12/15/2009 8:05 PM - (EST)
Basketball NBA Game
Wager Type:Teaser Bask7-Foot10 Combo
Los Angeles Lakers
Spread -3 for Game
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San Antonio Spurs
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Well this didnt go as expected. Miami came out to play. Now watch them lose the next 3 to :
Orlando
Portland
Utah
I guess playing against the leagues worst defense is just what the doctor ordered for Miami. Oh well cant win them all. They cost me my fun teaser. On to the next game.:142smilie
Orlando
Portland
Utah
I guess playing against the leagues worst defense is just what the doctor ordered for Miami. Oh well cant win them all. They cost me my fun teaser. On to the next game.:142smilie
